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Arts & Leisure => Entertainment => Topic farted by: PezClock on December 02, 2014, 08:48:45 PM

Title: vaporwave
Post by: PezClock on December 02, 2014, 08:48:45 PM
what are your thoughts on it?

Vaporwave is a musical genre that emerged in the early 2010s from indie dance genres such as seapunk, bounce house, or chillwave, and, more broadly, electronic dance music. Although there is much diversity and ambiguity in its attitude and message, vaporwave often serves as both a critique and parody of consumerist society, '80s yuppie culture, and New Age music, while sonically and aesthetically showcasing a curious fascination with their nostalgic artifacts.

Title: vaporwave
Post by: pop-tart on December 02, 2014, 09:06:29 PM
I think you're high
Title: vaporwave
Post by: FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK on December 02, 2014, 09:49:45 PM
vaporwave is what happens when tumblr smokes weed for the first time and tries to be intellectual. also lol at seapunk and bouncehouse.
Title: vaporwave
Post by: NintendrCkolc on December 02, 2014, 09:54:33 PM
I've really been getting into Huey Lewis and the News lately personally
Title: vaporwave
Post by: NintendrCkolc on December 02, 2014, 09:54:40 PM
Do you guys like them?
Title: vaporwave
Post by: NintendrCkolc on December 02, 2014, 09:55:50 PM
Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor. In '87, Huey released Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself.
Title: vaporwave
Post by: Kodiakclock on December 02, 2014, 10:34:26 PM
Iââ,¬â,,¢ve been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that I didnââ,¬â,,¢t really understand any of their work, though on their last album of the 1970s, the concept-laden And Then There Were Three (a reference to band member Peter Gabriel, who left the group to start a lame solo career), I did enjoy the lovely ââ,¬Å"Follow You, Follow Me.ââ,¬Â Otherwise all the albums before Duke seemed too artsy, too intellectual. It was Duke (Atlantic; 1980), where Phil Collinsââ,¬â,,¢ presence became more apparent, and the music got more modern, the drum machine became more prevalent and the lyrics started getting less mystical and more specific (maybe because of Peter Gabrielââ,¬â,,¢s departure), and complex, ambiguous studies of loss became, instead, smashing first-rate pop songs that I gratefully embraced. The songs themselves seemed arranged more around Collinsââ,¬â,,¢ drumming than Mike Rutherfordââ,¬â,,¢s bass lines or Tony Banksââ,¬â,,¢ keyboard riffs. A classic example of this is ââ,¬Å"Misunderstanding,ââ,¬Â which not only was the groupââ,¬â,,¢s first big hit of the eighties but also seemed to set the tone for the rest of their albums as the decade progressed. The other standout on Duke is ââ,¬Å"Turn It On Again,ââ,¬Â which is about the negative effects of television. On the other hand, ââ,¬Å"Heathazeââ,¬Â is a song I just donââ,¬â,,¢t understand, while ââ,¬Å"Please Donââ,¬â,,¢t Askââ,¬Â is a touching love song written to a separated wife who regains custody of the coupleââ,¬â,,¢s child. Has the negative aspect of divorce ever been rendered in more intimate terms by a rock ââ,¬Ëœnââ,¬â,,¢ roll group? I donââ,¬â,,¢t think so. ââ,¬Å"Duke Travelsââ,¬Â and ââ,¬Å"Dukes Endââ,¬Â might mean something but since the lyrics arenââ,¬â,,¢t printed itââ,¬â,,¢s hard to tell what Collins is singing about, though there is complex, gorgeous piano work by Tony Banks on the latter track. The only bummer about Duke is ââ,¬Å"Alone Tonight,ââ,¬Â which is way too reminiscent of ââ,¬Å"Tonight Tonight Tonightââ,¬Â from the groupââ,¬â,,¢s later masterpiece Invisible Touch and the only example, really, of where Collins has plagiarized himself.
Title: vaporwave
Post by: miracle fruit on December 02, 2014, 11:37:28 PM
god i hate you microgenre nerds. do you really have to invent a new awful word for every single song you hear?

this kinda sounds like something i would hear while playing vice city. except not as good. its ok
Title: vaporwave
Post by: PhantomCatClock on December 03, 2014, 12:37:31 AM
this is how I'd reintrodouche myself
Title: vaporwave
Post by: NintendrCkolc on December 03, 2014, 01:07:13 AM
Quote from: Kodiakclock;1979193Iââ,¬â,,¢ve been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. .

:lo5:
Title: vaporwave
Post by: VuBawlsClock on December 03, 2014, 03:56:51 AM
i fondly remember talking to pez while in dubai, and he insisted that he had quit the cc.

were you lieing to me you fuck
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: SilverCherryClock on August 06, 2015, 02:28:09 PM
i like the deleuzian undertones of its "philosophical foundation" and generally i like the idea of deterritorializing kitschy capitalist signifiers but musically 99% of the genre is just uninteresting/unlistenable.

Still I quite like this little tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glfsMDAZIhc
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: RobClock on August 07, 2015, 03:25:24 PM
I thought this thread was 'Vaporware' and I was looking forward to a nice Half Life 3 discussion. What a disappointment.
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Post by: TropicanaClock on August 08, 2015, 02:08:19 AM
pico 3
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: WobbuffetClock on September 14, 2016, 01:18:05 AM
would y'all listen to a slowed-down remix of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ8PfXOV1fU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ8PfXOV1fU)
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: PhantomCatClock on September 14, 2016, 01:29:24 AM
more like gayporwave

more like vaporgayve
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: d u m p y on September 14, 2016, 06:58:55 AM
Vaporwave is chopped and screwed for gay tumblr nerds that I could beat up
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: WobbuffetClock on September 14, 2016, 12:43:42 PM
Quote from: Dumpsterlock on September 14, 2016, 06:58:55 AM
Vaporwave is chopped and screwed for gay tumblr nerds that I could beat up
100% true honestly. also 'future funk' is french-style house music for their weeb best friends (i still like it though)
like, how is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvji5AXOfk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvji5AXOfk) (future funk track) significantly different from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxBdUIlhxo8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxBdUIlhxo8) (french house track)
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: VCRClock on September 14, 2016, 07:27:32 PM
Quote from: WobbuffetClock on September 14, 2016, 01:18:05 AM
would y'all listen to a slowed-down remix of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ8PfXOV1fU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ8PfXOV1fU)
you didn't hear it here, but the time to invest in frosted tips is now
Quote from: WobbuffetClock on September 14, 2016, 12:43:42 PM
100% true honestly. also 'future funk' is french-style house music for their weeb best friends (i still like it though)
like, how is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvji5AXOfk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvji5AXOfk) (future funk track) significantly different from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxBdUIlhxo8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxBdUIlhxo8) (french house track)
i think the difference is that with french house, usually I listen, and I'm eventually like "okay where did you get those strings... wow, gladys knight & the pips?"
whereas with vaporwave/futurefunk, I usually start listening and I'm like "okay, which early '80s post-disco r&b and/or jpop act did you pump up... *scrolls down youtube comments* oh, the whispers."

it took people forever to figure out that it was tavares (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTOEKUKGZWA) daft punk sampled on "high life," but a friend of mine put on "floral shoppe" once and even if I didn't know the diana ross sample (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uno7f5IGAPI), at whatever point i was just like "wow good job you found a sylvia robinson record (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA2X1040_gY)"
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: SockpuppetClock on September 15, 2016, 06:33:39 AM
since this is a vaporwave thread i'd like to post the two most definitive vaporwave albums I could possibly think of

Chuck Person - Eccojams (one of my favorite albums ever)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unN7QvSWSTo

MILLENNIAL DREAM CORP. - DRAKE 遗事 JOSH JOSH 遗事 DRAKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryjmaD4cgKc
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: SockpuppetClock on September 15, 2016, 06:36:13 AM
i don't particularly care if a vaporwave track is based entirely on a sample or something, since I almost certainly would have never heard the original track anyways. if it still sounds good i can say i'm glad i found it
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: VCRClock on September 15, 2016, 11:34:06 AM
Quote from: SockpuppetClock on September 15, 2016, 06:36:13 AM
i don't particularly care if a vaporwave track is based entirely on a sample or something, since I almost certainly would have never heard the original track anyways. if it still sounds good i can say i'm glad i found it
I feel this way in general about sampling in music. if it weren't for sampling, there's plenty of shit I wouldn't have heard of. but if an artist claims sampling as their artform, I need to see them be an artist. how hard could it possibly be to make an uptempo dance track out of the chorus of another uptempo dance track, and add some video game and anime noises? if I feel like I might as well be listening to the track they sampled, especially if they're not dropping a totally unheard-of record on me (which can be impressive, but less impressive than being really creative with a sample), then I feel as if they're not doing their job.
what I like is when I can listen to a track, find the track it sampled, and find either that I like the new song better; or, better yet, that I like both songs for different reasons.
I think my attitude toward (specifically derivative) vaporwave is mostly that I dig it when people are as passionate about the specific temporal/cultural niche of records they sample as, say, hip hop producers are about funk 45s. but I'd rather listen to records vaporwave people like than listen to vaporwave. I'm a negative motherfucker and I hate it when people try to give me some sort of nostalgia boner, as if that alone is saying something. I can't take the A E S T H E T I C and the ornamental Japanese seriously enough to take vaporwave seriously. I don't discount the possibility that there are vaporwavey artists out there whose approach I might respect, but... nothing I've seen has made me want to dig deeper?
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: SockpuppetClock on September 15, 2016, 04:47:24 PM
ye i get it..as far as i can tell vaporwave only really existed for like a year and then everything after that has been unoriginal people going by a formula for H O T V A P O R by picking a sample, slowing it down, doing some mild nonsense on it then calling it a day.
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: zl on September 15, 2016, 04:50:35 PM
but what about simpwave (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCb3rblTEds&list=WL&index=13)
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: zl on September 15, 2016, 05:29:16 PM
what about simpwave (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTfa-9aCTYg)
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: AlbinoClock on September 19, 2016, 03:38:05 PM
Vaporware is software whose copyright holders no longer exist.
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: d u m p y on September 19, 2016, 04:32:14 PM
besides retrowave or whatever you call stuff like this shit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95s7-uB64wo) and the hotline miami soundtrack that tries to sound like 80's movies soundtracks is way fucking cooler than this "sadboii" tumblr fagshit
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: SilverCherryClock on February 27, 2018, 08:47:29 PM
I love vaporwave now
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: Slurpee on February 27, 2018, 10:15:23 PM
I thought vaporwave was one of the made-up computer things julia styles said on that episode of ghostwriter
it wasn't, but it would fit right in
[u2]bLlj_GeKniA[/u2]
can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: SilverCherryClock on February 28, 2018, 08:43:21 PM
It's more along these lines:
[u2]kt3Oj-Dq-MM[/u2]
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: GraphicsClock on June 19, 2019, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: NintendoClock on December 02, 2014, 09:54:33 PM
I've really been getting into Huey Lewis and the News lately personally

Same
Title: Re: vaporwave
Post by: PhantomCatClock on June 19, 2019, 07:34:39 PM
gaypergayve