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« Reply #111100 on: February 16, 2017, 12:15:58 AM »

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« Reply #111101 on: February 16, 2017, 12:35:45 AM »
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Re: just regular ol biggest topic
« Reply #111102 on: February 16, 2017, 04:07:23 AM »
course

since i am without sin i will throw the first stoan

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Re: just regular ol biggest topic
« Reply #111103 on: February 16, 2017, 10:54:46 AM »
S N O W



SO MUCH FUCKING S N O W
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Re: just regular ol biggest topic
« Reply #111104 on: February 16, 2017, 11:22:15 AM »
make a perfect sphere of snow

I mean fucking perfect

get a blowdryer and evenly heat the surface of the perfect sphere





i don't remember the next step but it's cool

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Re: just regular ol biggest topic
« Reply #111105 on: February 16, 2017, 12:20:41 PM »
Future roommate says it's been snowing a lot. Are you on the coast, then?

I'm about an hour west of Portland. Our weather is pretty similar to whatever's going on there. We have had more snow this year than usual, but it rarely sticks for more than a few days. We did get enough to go sledding in our backyard a few weeks ago. 


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« Reply #111106 on: February 16, 2017, 08:27:50 PM »
Well if you look at the actual passage, Matthew 25:31-46, you'll find that it employs the whole Christ-as-shepherd imagery. If you wanted to dig deeper, you could make connections to Greek mythology, the god Pan, half man & half goat and Satyrs, who often had goatlike features and permanent erections.
hahaha, good point. yeah, i can understand that its difficult to fit snakes+other animals in the story, for the shepherd parable.
(even tho they could still say something like ''be meek and peaceful like the sheep, and avoid being vile and poisonous like the snakes/scorpions/pests that surround them...'')

indeed, the early christians condemned the ''wild'' style of pan, and they definitely hated his goat/human appearance, along with his wild parties and the constant erections.

"I wonder if the originators of a religion built on sin, guilt and repression had a problem with this?" said no one.
hahahaha! indeed

The problem with owls, and any nocturnal animals for that matter, was that people believed they purposefully hid from the light (virtue) in the dark (sin). I'm not sure where you get evil crows from, medieval authors even seem to praise them for the same qualities as you, monogamy and longevity.
well, in ancient greek mythology+in roman/norse/celtic mythology, crows are depicted as clever and awesome birds with great qualities...(they are awesome)

however in some religious texts during the witch-hunt/inquisition years, the crows have been labeled as ''evill'', and as ''assistants to witches'' (or, as familiars of witches).
i guess they were saying those things because crows were dark, and church often associated dark birds as ''evil''.
if we also count that crows were eating from corpses, (aka they were scavengers), and the fact that many simple people often called them ''the messengers of death''/a bad omen in folklore, so i guess thats why the church labeled them as evil.
(mostly during the witch-hunt/inquisition years).

but yeah, crows are awesome, and they have been labeled as great animals in (almost) every mythology.
crows are clever, loyal(to their mates) and they live for a very long time.
in fact, there is a term in greek, ''korakozoitos'', which was a remark/wish for someone to ''live as many years as a crow'', which is what the term actually means. (in its etymology)

i believe that its worth mentioning that, in some parts of the bible, god sends a crow to bring food to prophet elias, while crows protected the dead body of st vincent of saragosa, so that scavengers wouldnt eat it...

damn, duuuude, that owl has done some mischief and he knows it!

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« Reply #111107 on: February 16, 2017, 08:43:53 PM »
oh, and in a specific part of the bible, crows have been mislabeled because they ''copulated with eachother'' while they stayed on noah's ark.
(why the hell was sex considered a sin by christians? such vast amounts of puritanism/extremity are very bad, and they often lead into bad situations for people.
not to count the ''not having sex before marriage'' rule, or the whole ''celibacy'' rule... so stupid!)

oh, and here i found a text from the book of ''enoch'', that labels crows as birds equal to the fallen angels, aka the 'nephilims', beings who mated with human women and created giants, aka the ''anakim'' (which means giants).

Leviticus 11:13-15 KJV
13. And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14. And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15. EVERY RAVEN after his kind…

http://www.sheshbazzardaq.com/enoch.html
(the part about the unclean fowls of heaven is at the top 1/4 of the page on the link.)
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Re: just regular ol biggest topic
« Reply #111108 on: February 17, 2017, 12:04:38 AM »
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« Reply #111109 on: February 17, 2017, 03:58:12 AM »
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« Reply #111110 on: February 17, 2017, 05:39:07 AM »
The problem with owls, and any nocturnal animals for that matter, was that people believed they purposefully hid from the light (virtue) in the dark (sin). I'm not sure where you get evil crows from, medieval authors even seem to praise them for the same qualities as you, monogamy and longevity.
well, in ancient greek mythology+in roman/norse/celtic mythology, crows are depicted as clever and awesome birds with great qualities...(they are awesome)

however in some religious texts during the witch-hunt/inquisition years, the crows have been labeled as ''evill'', and as ''assistants to witches'' (or, as familiars of witches).
i guess they were saying those things because crows were dark, and church often associated dark birds as ''evil''.
if we also count that crows were eating from corpses, (aka they were scavengers), and the fact that many simple people often called them ''the messengers of death''/a bad omen in folklore, so i guess thats why the church labeled them as evil.
(mostly during the witch-hunt/inquisition years).
What texts? What's your source? I looked through a prominent study of witches in medieval and Renaissance art and it makes no mention of crows, ravens or corvi. It does go into great detail on: goats, cats, rats, owls, toads, hares and monkeys, which would make your claim a pretty glaring omission.


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« Reply #111111 on: February 17, 2017, 11:03:03 AM »
well, i dont have my old folklore+medieval superstitions books with me (in some of them, it also stated the churches dscrimination of the crows, labeling them as ''dark'', scavenger animals that symbolized death+the darkness(for unfair reasons)).

also, i guess one link can be this,
https://books.google.gr/books?id=ucx6AAAAQBAJ&pg=PT14&lpg=PT14&dq=maleficus+maleficarum+crows+and+witches&source=bl&ots=KdIHy5TaI3&sig=Zh9GQJoGeICHdw2eK-kbf6LPV_8&hl=el&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlrciIvZfSAhWIdpoKHTOMAiEQ6AEISjAG#v=onepage&q=maleficus%20maleficarum%20crows%20and%20witches&f=false

and this
https://witchesofthecraft.com/2013/12/18/lets-glance-at-todays-totempower-animal-the-crowraven/

also it could be mentioned in a part of maleficus maleficarum, but i could be wrong.

also, this was an interesting find:
''Amongst Neopagans, crows are often thought to be highly psychic and are associated with the element of ether or spirit, rather than the element of air as with most other birds. This may in part be due to the long-standing occult tradition of associating the color black with "the abyss" of infinite knowledge (see akasha), or perhaps also to the more modern occult belief that wearing the "color" black aids in psychic ability, as it absorbs more electromagnetic energy, since surfaces appear black by absorbing all frequencies in the visible spectrum, reflecting no color. ''

last but not least, in some old superstitions, people thought that witches had crows for familiars, so i know that they had a negative reputation for a while(including their already known feature of eating carrion/being scavengers), and this theory was supported for a brief time by the church, since the crows were ''dark, and they had the colour of the darkness''.
thankfully that changed later on, (during/after the renaissance).

PS: i know that crows/(or ravens, which is a similar, but slightly different version of the bird's species), crows have been seen negatively for a brief period of time, at least in the balkans. (except from the greeks, we always appreciated the crow's good traits).


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Re: just regular ol biggest topic
« Reply #111112 on: February 17, 2017, 01:48:52 PM »
well, i dont have my old folklore+medieval superstitions books with me (in some of them, it also stated the churches dscrimination of the crows, labeling them as ''dark'', scavenger animals that symbolized death+the darkness(for unfair reasons)).

also, i guess one link can be this,
https://books.google.gr/books?id=ucx6AAAAQBAJ&pg=PT14&lpg=PT14&dq=maleficus+maleficarum+crows+and+witches&source=bl&ots=KdIHy5TaI3&sig=Zh9GQJoGeICHdw2eK-kbf6LPV_8&hl=el&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlrciIvZfSAhWIdpoKHTOMAiEQ6AEISjAG#v=onepage&q=maleficus%20maleficarum%20crows%20and%20witches&f=false

and this
https://witchesofthecraft.com/2013/12/18/lets-glance-at-todays-totempower-animal-the-crowraven/

also it could be mentioned in a part of maleficus maleficarum, but i could be wrong.

also, this was an interesting find:
''Amongst Neopagans, crows are often thought to be highly psychic and are associated with the element of ether or spirit, rather than the element of air as with most other birds. This may in part be due to the long-standing occult tradition of associating the color black with "the abyss" of infinite knowledge (see akasha), or perhaps also to the more modern occult belief that wearing the "color" black aids in psychic ability, as it absorbs more electromagnetic energy, since surfaces appear black by absorbing all frequencies in the visible spectrum, reflecting no color. ''

last but not least, in some old superstitions, people thought that witches had crows for familiars, so i know that they had a negative reputation for a while(including their already known feature of eating carrion/being scavengers), and this theory was supported for a brief time by the church, since the crows were ''dark, and they had the colour of the darkness''.
thankfully that changed later on, (during/after the renaissance).

PS: i know that crows/(or ravens, which is a similar, but slightly different version of the bird's species), crows have been seen negatively for a brief period of time, at least in the balkans. (except from the greeks, we always appreciated the crow's good traits).
I see what's going on. These are not good sources dude, witchesofthecraft.com, really? That book you linked is severely unacademic. The author has haphazardly raked together a bunch of stories and references and hey presto! A shitty book. You can usually tell from the general lack of clarity and structure, and this one is no exception. Quoted passages are used as window dressing, instead of serving to further the point after proper analyzation. Nonsensical or ill-explained namedrops of "big" topics or people "sexual inadequacy", "Bible", "Quran", "Jungian", "fart". Topographically it's all over the map as well (ha ha), we jump from North America to Ireland to Greece to India. I know it's an introduction, but set up some goddamn parameters. The exact passage you referenced is supposed to be a description of our contemporary image of witches and not some sort of historical one. At least I hope so, because otherwise I have no idea how the author established the characteristics of the typical witch voice. Also the Malleus Maleficarum is the first source I checked, and there's no mention of crows (although that's not exactly saying much, because none of the other animals, or "familiars" are mentioned either), but nonetheless, no! No fucking crows BilliardBall10Clock, leave that Wicca shit on your Hot Topic t-shirt or whatever, you son of a bitch. God bless.




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« Reply #111114 on: February 17, 2017, 05:40:29 PM »
well, OK, man.

but still, the book of enoch* is still a good source:

in one part of ''enoch'', it labels crows as birds equal to the fallen angels, aka the 'nephilims', beings who mated with human women and created giants, aka the ''anakim'' (which means giants).

Leviticus 11:13-15 KJV
13. And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14. And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15. EVERY RAVEN after his kind…

http://www.sheshbazzardaq.com/enoch.html
(the part about the unclean fowls of heaven is at the top 1/4 of the page on the link.)

*i guess it could be the book that was found in ethiopia, and its non-cannon with the usual bible stories, but hey, it might have a basis behind the fear of crows that the medieval people had in folklore. (either with some help from the church, or on their own, based on the people's fear of death, and the (un)natural(??) connection between crows and death/scavanging/''the eating of the dead'', an act which would normally freak them out. (even tho it was a necessary action, since crows+various other scavengers were needed in order to clear an area from dead people(in wars)/dead animals.)

with that being said, perhaps i confused the churches persecution of crows with the persecution of vultures/of other avian creatures.

the owl thing happened 100% tho. i am very certain about it.
(and all the historical sources match.)

an other possible situation is that i confused folklore tales with religious animal-labeling.(for the medieval period, that is).

....
i think that we should move on.
talking about how i suck in corvine demonology isnt really helping us, in any way.(except for the crowd's amusement, which is something that i also enjoy).

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its in here

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« Reply #111115 on: February 17, 2017, 05:46:15 PM »
also, grey clock:

1. can i see ''E'' again? (the new one, or the older one. i would prefer to see both, if possible... they were great movies).

2. would you be angry if i made a few ''grey clock'' tribute movies on NG? (possibly with a nice vibe from your ''F#CK'' series)

i am waiting for your answer, caww! :D

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Re: just regular ol biggest topic
« Reply #111116 on: February 17, 2017, 07:46:06 PM »
well, OK, man.

but still, the book of enoch* is still a good source:

in one part of ''enoch'', it labels crows as birds equal to the fallen angels, aka the 'nephilims', beings who mated with human women and created giants, aka the ''anakim'' (which means giants).

Leviticus 11:13-15 KJV
13. And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14. And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15. EVERY RAVEN after his kind…

http://www.sheshbazzardaq.com/enoch.html
(the part about the unclean fowls of heaven is at the top 1/4 of the page on the link.)

*i guess it could be the book that was found in ethiopia, and its non-cannon with the usual bible stories, but hey, it might have a basis behind the fear of crows that the medieval people had in folklore. (either with some help from the church, or on their own, based on the people's fear of death, and the (un)natural(??) connection between crows and death/scavanging/''the eating of the dead'', an act which would normally freak them out. (even tho it was a necessary action, since crows+various other scavengers were needed in order to clear an area from dead people(in wars)/dead animals.)

with that being said, perhaps i confused the churches persecution of crows with the persecution of vultures/of other avian creatures.

the owl thing happened 100% tho. i am very certain about it.
(and all the historical sources match.)

an other possible situation is that i confused folklore tales with religious animal-labeling.(for the medieval period, that is).

....
i think that we should move on.
talking about how i suck in corvine demonology isnt really helping us, in any way.(except for the crowd's amusement, which is something that i also enjoy).

PS: also here's an 100% real drawing of a witch holding a crow, its amazing:
its in here
You're a goofy fucker aren't you. First you talk about the book of Enoch, which, as you mentioned, was "rediscovered" in Ethiopia, in the early seventeenth century. Snippets of it can be found here and there in the rather obscure works of some of the lesser known Church Fathers, but there is nothing that would indicate any kind of prevalence in medieval society, not among the commoners, not even among the clergy. If that's the case, how can you then assert it's a possible basis for a widespead (folkloric) belief? It's not impossible, just extremely unlikely. (And I'm not going to examine every single one of these snippets, but does a single one of them even mention your precious crows? You see what I'm driving at, not just with this specific point, but in general here?) Then there's Leviticus: don't eat crow, words we can all live by, although in this particular case maybe you should consider it. Just because a crow was deemed a filthy beast, unfit for consumption, did not mean the animal was particularly evil. Your quote mentions the eagle, which became, after some rather ambiguous mentions in the Bible, a symbol of fortitude and might, because of (despite?) the Romans. Hell, the eagle became a universal symbol of John the Evangelist and his Gospel. So just because the Bible said one thing, that didn't necessarily translate directly into the practices and beliefs of medieval culture.

"an other possible situation is that i confused folklore tales with religious animal-labeling"
Why? Do you think the author of my source said to herself, "Right, I'm writing a comprehensive and authoritative study into all aspects of witchdom in medieval and Renaissance culture, but you know, I fucking hate folklore, I'll just disregard anything even remotely folkloristic"? Don't be obtuse.

What else? Your weird link doesn't work. I already agreed on the owl thing, in fact I confirmed it and elaborated on it? Thank you for teaching me about the necessity of cleaning up dead bodies and the helpful role scavengers play in that? About E, the newer one is posted somewhere in this thread. If you want to make a tribute movie just make a tribute movie, you've been asking this for years, stop asking and start making or just stop asking, either way is fine by me. Happy Kwanzaa Peapod!

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« Reply #111117 on: February 17, 2017, 09:08:50 PM »
"an other possible situation is that i confused folklore tales with religious animal-labeling"
Why? Do you think the author of my source said to herself, "Right, I'm writing a comprehensive and authoritative study into all aspects of witchdom in medieval and Renaissance culture, but you know, I fucking hate folklore, I'll just disregard anything even remotely folkloristic"? Don't be obtuse.
sir! i didnt meant that as a way to disregard your source, or to nulify its facts* or its significance, no.
i was merely stating that ''i could be wrong'' about this whole ''church hated crows'' thing, and it COULD belong in the realm of simple (medieval?)superstition between common people, instead of an organised anti-crow movement by the church.
i hope that you will see my merit.

What else? Your weird link doesn't work.
its a funny thing, i used it in order to poke fun at the whole situation.
here's the link:
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/f/f1/Magica.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100818045525

Your quote mentions the eagle, which became, after some rather ambiguous mentions in the Bible, a symbol of fortitude and might, because of (despite?) the Romans.
well, the eagle as a symbol of power derives from the ancient greek mythology, in which, god zeus could transform into an eagle, as shown in ganymedes story below:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganymede_(mythology)
''[...] he(Ganymede) is abducted by Zeus, in the form of an eagle, to serve as cup-bearer in Olympus.''

he is also shown in various coins as an eagle:
''On other Cretan coins (Zeus)Velchanos is represented as an eagle and in association with a goddess celebrating a mystic marriage.''
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeus#Zeus_Velchanos

and it can also be seen here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_(heraldry)
''Mythologically, it has been connected by the Greeks with the God Zeus, by the Romans with Jupiter, [...]''

ofcourse, later on, it was (also) used by the romans, who in turn, got inspired by its symbolisms in the story of ''titanomachy'' (war of the titans), and they used it as a symbol of their empire.
(i think it's also mentioned in fulgentius "mythologies" )
aaand, we started using it (again) in our flags/emblems as byzantine symbols (since we were the eastern part of the roman empire for a long time, AKA=the eastern roman empire=byzantium.
but thats an other story.

About E, the newer one is posted somewhere in this thread. If you want to make a tribute movie just make a tribute movie, you've been asking this for years, stop asking and start making or just stop asking, either way is fine by me. Happy Kwanzaa Peapod!
well, this is the CC's biggest thread, so it will take me alot of time to retrieve it! thats why im asking for your help...
anyways, thank you for the info+for the seal of approval(in regards to me making grey-themed works).


*the term should be used lightly when it comes to books such as ''maleficus maleficarum'', and all facts should be checked, esp. the varying levels of validity or historical siginificance, depending on the subject of each book/topic. once again, this is meant to be read by future readers, its not for grey clock. he is right in all previous statements listed above.

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Re: just regular ol biggest topic
« Reply #111118 on: February 17, 2017, 09:10:51 PM »
tl;tr :

thank you grey for the good answers, its been a pleasure. lets not talk about crows again.
thanks for letting me do grey-clock tribute flashes too.

you're the best

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Re: just regular ol biggest topic
« Reply #111119 on: February 18, 2017, 02:15:03 AM »
crows b4 hoes