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[PhantomCatClock]

phantomcat you lazy shitass make ctrl+enter send posts already

[PhantomCatClock]

oh it's shift+alt+s

[k9]

do you guys tend to make many friends at work? I hear alot of people talk about their co-workers in a really negative way which is just so strange to me. I love the people I work with, but granted this is still my first job so maybe I'm just lucky haha

[Slurpee]

I tend to get along with everybody I work with but I think that's rare

I've seen a lot of this phenomenon of... someone gets mad at a co-worker (over things that, I don't understand why you would be that upset about) and then instead of talking it out like adults they just kind of passive-aggressively treat that person worse, and each decides the other is an asshole and make each other's lives harder. and they'll just live their lives like that for years

there was one dude who I think didn't like me at first, when I worked at safeway. just bad chemistry, y'know, it happens. but I just didn't make anything out of it, and he didn't make anything out of it, and one day he saw me buying loose bananas and he was like "holy shit, I've never seen somebody buy the loose bananas before" and I laughed and was like "I mean, they're the same. they're just not in a bunch" and he was like "EXACTLY. we throw out like 2 dozen loose bananas a week because people just assume there's something wrong with them" and we were friendly after that lol

[PhantomCatClock]

Sometimes relationships like that will just randomly flip to an unbreakable respect where even when the other person isn't around, they'll only say good things about each other and it is 100% random when/if that happens

[VCRClock]

I don't have bad things to say about any of my present coworkers

I can think of people I used to work with that one could say bad things about

Sometimes a difficult or annoying coworker lands at your job, and for one reason or another they don't last. (And until then you're waiting for them to do something that will finally get them fired.) Other times you start a job somewhere and the annoying person has been there forever and might not be leaving anytime soon, so you just have to learn how to work with them without setting them off.

I would muse that maybe the harder a job is to get, the less likely that shitty people will make it onto the payroll, but then I remembered sexual harassment type software dudes, so maybe not

[VCRClock]

Linux adventure:

so months ago I did my fresh install of Debian Bookworm. I thought wi-fi was working fine until I went somewhere with a different wifi network. connman wasn't working. connman GUI would launch but I couldn't see or connect to any networks, so I had to Google how to use wpa_cli or something to connect via command line. which I got working, but y'know, clunky for something that should have worked out of the box, right?

i just took my laptop to a coffee shop and had another go at *really* fixing the problem. some CLI solutions involved nmcli, but I don't have that, dude, I'm supposed to be using connman but it's saying "no carrier"

found this guy who was like "I deleted isc-dhcp-client-ddns, works gr8", and I didn't have that package but thought deleting dhclient, the thing that lets my computer use DHCP, was maybe a bad idea anyway. but maybe I could... disable dhclient?

anyway that second guy was right. my home network settings for the wifi device had been written into /etc/network/interfaces, probably during the wifi-connected Debian installation process, and dhcpd was taking over that interface and not letting connman manage it. commented it out. rebooted. connman works and I didn't delete anything important in the process. victory

oh no I didn't post this here for you guys, I'm just putting it here so it comes up when some other idiot googles the problem

[PhantomCatClock]

that reminds me, it's almost time to vote on my next admin password

[RobClock]

do you guys tend to make many friends at work? I hear alot of people talk about their co-workers in a really negative way which is just so strange to me. I love the people I work with, but granted this is still my first job so maybe I'm just lucky haha

I still have friends from my first job, not very close but keeping in touch occasionally. I didn't make many friends at my second job that extended outside the workplace but I still talk fairly regularly with two. As for my current job, I became friends with the guy I work with everyday, got in an argument with him over his condescending behaviour, and now we haven't exchanged more than a sentence in over a year and a half despite being less than 6ft away from each other for the majority of the week. He's thrown about three temper tantrums on me in the interim that I just shrug off. If I were in a more professional environment I'd have talked to management about him ages ago.

It's a real crapshoot out there.

[PannacottaClock]

I get along well with my coworkers at this company that I've worked at for two weeks and in the previous companies I've worked at and in the military I worked at as well for that matter but I wouldn't call any of them friends

I haven't made any enemies either. From popular culture it looks like a lot of people have work enemies. I'd like that but only if it were someone I could do battle with and we could pit schemes against each other

[Slurpee]

I've been watching a lot of 48 Hours and this one was about this girl that disappeared and the police decided her parents must have secretly murdered her because they were abusive and they moved out of state shortly after she disappeared
then while the police were honing in on a charge, the girl conveniently turned up alive with a slightly different accent than what you would expect
so the police decided she was a fake daughter of course, and had them do a dna test, and... she was their daughter
so the police man just insanely decided with no evidence that she was a secret second daughter that they'd had stashed away in another state
so 48 hours interviews the daughter and pretty much conclusively proved that she was the one who went missing, she ran away from home because it sucked and picked up a bit of the regional accent of her new home but her parents were not murderers they were just abusive and shitty
and the wacky police detective was like nooooooooooo [angry crying wojack] she's a fake second daughter from another state that was the same age as the other daughter somehow and now we're letting them get away with the murder of the real daughter that we never found a body of and had no reason to believe she was dead!!!
and 48 hours was like "what do you think, viewer? did they have a secret second daughter in a different state that they did a better job of raising so she'd like them enough to agree to be their murder alibi for her sister that she'd never met in case they ever decided to murder her? 🤔"

[Slurpee]

at some point I thought "what if the only reason that statistically speaking the boyfriend is usually the murderer is they always just assume the boyfriend is the murderer and just arrest and charge whoever the boyfriend is regardless of whether they can prove it"
and I'm not saying that's true but if you watch 48 Hours with that in mind the police definitely seem like insane boyfriend hating assholes who just constantly throw grieving boyfriends and husbands in prison. I laugh every time they "start to" suspect the boyfriend, which is often. of course you did, you bastards

[Slurpee]

you watch forensic files, you'll get no such impression. watching forensic files it seems like police instantly supernaturally hone in on the single fiber of cloth in the crime scene that's out of place, and meticulously compare it to the clothes of every person that it possibly could have been until they conclusively find the only person who could be the culprit, because of fibers

[Slurpee]

there was one case where they literally not only had no physical evidence tying the boyfriend to the crime scene but they found blood at the crime scene that did not belong to the victim or the boyfriend, which means somebody else was bleeding at the scene of her murder, and instead of trying to put 2 and 2 together on that they just arrested and charged the boyfriend anyway. they were like "that blood was probably from uhhh ermm because of a different reason" lol

and 48 hours is like "what were you thinking, waiting for that verdict to come down?" and the cops and victim's family are like "I was nervous. furious. that there was a possibility that they would let this boyfriend go free even though I decided he probably did it, and all just because there was physical evidence exculpating him 😠"

[Slurpee]

me: [watching a tv show about professional crime experts tangling with complicated real world mysteries with the goal of taking dangerous murderers off the streets and bringing peace to victims' families] lol. dumba sses

[Slurpee]

I wonder if rochard garriott is lowkey annoyed that shatner and all those dudes got to go to space. I feel like when garriott did it it was probably actually kinda hard. I don't know what they did different that 90 year old bill shatner could go but it had to be different somehow right

[Slurpee]

on tv being an astronaut is always insanely hard. they have to get in the thing that spins so fast you pass out and stuff. always had the impression that astronauts are about as fit as firemen and they'e also scientists and that's why it's such a big deal. or you can also just be rich I guess

[Slurpee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twzAQcF7HdI good youtubes

[PhantomCatClock]

brb moving back to maine

[Slurpee]

I thought you already did that