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Quote from: PropagandaClockI know, you're not the only one who talks to people youknow and you do not have the ClockCrew as figured out as you do.

I know who the admins and S. Mods are and who did what and who doesn't and who can't. Clearly, you didn't understand that and thus all of your arguments seemed unfounded.

What part of this didn't you understand?

The fact that you're condescending in your first paragraph makes me not want to read any of this. Rarely do I ignore a users - especially when I felt the urge to give advice. Actually, this might be the first time.

Thanks, dick.

Well, you should've, I thank you for your PM and your intentions.
I still do not agree on your perspective though.

Why would you want to post our trainwreck of a conversation though? Hardly has any relevance.

Quote from: CadillacClock;1694933That's as far as I got before I stopped reading.

I've read a lot of posts and chat comments from Propaganda about how "we" or "they" take the Clock Crew to seriously. Looking over this thread, I don't see it.

Well, you did continue to read and you read the good parts aswell, CadillacClock you only showing your side of the arguement and if you want I can post the entire 691 walls of text we have transferred but I doupt anyone cares.

Either way that is a very low shoot to be doing, quoting out of context and then giving your sentiment on the quote.
You're doing a Bill O'Reilly.

Quote from: Slurpee;1694920~`read this`~

I'd wished you had written this earlier.

Have been talking to different people on chat/pm and there are strangely enough many sides to this coin.

I apologize for any uneccery scrutiny anyone has experienced out of my walls of text, all I ever wanted is a softer, more loving moderator base. That sentiment would be lovely to have carried over to the chat which is a extreme version of whatever lucid point I carry.

Either way, Thank you Slurpee for taking the time to give a valid argument.

Quote from: CadillacClock;1694933That's as far as I got before I stopped reading.

I've read a lot of posts and chat comments from Propaganda about how "we" or "they" take the Clock Crew to seriously. Looking over this thread, I don't see it.

Well, you did continue to read and you read the good parts aswell, CadillacClock you only showing your side of the arguement and if you want I can post the entire 691 walls of text we have transferred but I doupt anyone cares.

Either way that is a very low shoot to be doing, quoting out of context and then giving your sentiment on the quote.
You're doing a Bill O'Reilly.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1259571/

Well, if even IMDB thinks it is bad... It's bad.

IMDB even gave Transformers 2 a good score.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1055369/

Merry Academy, and to all a good night.

Quote from: syzygy;1694888I like the colours you used and the face

I usually start with the silhouette of the character, then just give it a colour, then on different layers I just use Black with different alphas... much smoother shading than changing the colour on one layer.

Problem is, I mixed the layers on the clothes so I got to lazy to give them detail.
(example of what I mean)

LIMITED EDITION FLAVOUR; EMO

Quote from: Slurpee;1694856sadistic, nay just and righteous... totalitarian, bribing silence. grand pinnacle martyrdom- MUNICIPALITIES. albeit: iron fisted facade. lofty! authority, sadistic existence.

forsooth

"THE IRON FIST OF CHAOS"

Quote from: Slurpee;1694858wtf who smodded gir what hahahaha

The peoples revolution, we will bury you and your facist clinched ways.

Quote from: DWARFINATOR;1694834You love it when people get banned, you only get upset and want empathy when it happens to you.

Well, I don't. Being sadistic towards my fellow Clocks would not be suited to the purpose of my continued existance here.

Quote from: DWARFINATOR;1694834It's not so much bribing for silence, incessant whining about a ban is annoying as fuck.

Indeed it is and I understand your point... but how does rewarding it help? Why shorten peoples ban if they dont whine? Just do just and rightouss bans to begin with.
Ofcourse there will always be whiners but most people who somehow agree with this topic would just want you guys to not be as hot headed, that's all. Not asking you to love me, just look the other way once and awhile.

No Biggs, I just think you guys are acting like small-penised jockeys with nothing better to do than to act superior in the ClockCrew.

Quote from: DWARFINATOR;1694805It was an act of kindness but you label it as a dick move ok I see where the problem is here. Ban contesting is against the rules and can get your ban extended, you were offered the chance to be unbanned if you only followed the rules. You breaking the rules is a dick move.

He banned me for a unfit reason, he knew this which is why he contemplated on shortening it to begin with.

To shorten it to two days is just a fools jest since why ban someone for two days to begin with?
What ever happend to any form of empathy towards us normal and foolish Clocks?

You make it sound as if I am a bad Clock for not wanting to be banned for trivial things and then mentioning my disagreement towards the management.
Those are totalitarian ideals.

If you find me a bad poster then that is all fine, but banning me outright for something that does no harm and then bribing me into silence if I accept such silly ways is not how the ClockCrew should be run.

YoYoClock has captured the essence of this topic, apart from the scrapping of the current system I agree with him.

Quote from: DWARFINATOR;1694778Hey dumbshit, ban contesting is against the rules, always has been. I think the fact that he offered to reduce the ban was very kind of biggs, that Propaganda chose to ignore the offer is his own fault.

Indeed, but buying my silence with an ultimatum of unbanning is a dick move and you know it.

That's not using the moderator status to moderate but to rule.

So I've been obsessing with Rammsteins new album, going to see them in Februari and it's gonna be nice.

The song Haifisch made me want to draw something fitting, not sad but melancholy.
Eyebrows and hair modelled after me and the violin I had to almost copy

Quote from: GamblerClock;1694530Thats pretty damn good for 5 mins of doodle work.

Thanks, was staring at myself in the mirror whilst doing paperwork at 06:00, light from screen in contrast to the dark other side looked funny

Quote from: The Big N;1694489Seriously, its not THAT great.

<3

Quote from: CadillacClock;1694454I've taken some time to reflect on my previous bans and I realize I may have made some mistakes. I am sorry. In my defense, I have been given a very heavy task of handing out bans and I would like to think I put proper judgment into each of them. I realize, at times, my judgments are persuaded or pushed by my own emotions and personal beliefs but I do the best I can to be subjective and open.

wat

I just terminated a "Friend with benefits" relationship on the basis of her loving Twiligt and me not liking the movies without having seen them.

I don't know what more to say.


I feel like punching some kittens or something...

Quote from: some kind of crossdresser;1694389words^2

If moderating the ClockCrew is such a grueling task, described by you as herding idiots, I don't honestly understand why you do it. All you seem to do is clap eachothers backs and talk down the general member core as if everyone and everything is totally worthless bellow your grand pinnacle of judgement.

Quote"never type another word about it again"

But if you were ready to unban me after 2 days that proves the ban was not worthy of 2 weeks to begin with, you just felt that a bad joke was worth 2 weeks because you dislike me personally and that is bad judgement if anything.



Dwarfinator is not a bad moderator, he always gives people the benefit of doupt and only handles ultimatums when lines are very clearly drawn, you and CadillacClock seem to enjoy the martyrdom of banning people you consider "idiots" or "bad posters" just to have them whine about it afterwards because it was evidently personal feeling in the mix of said ban instead of justice.



I don't mind all that much, I don't find the forums all that enjoyable for these reasons but the ClockCrew is not about the forums but about making things. Thus it doesn't matter if one banned, one can still do what the ClockCrew does best; Flash.

5 minute doodle, bored of work.

Dance little tin godess dance
made in about 20 min
the face I am not content with but oh well.

So my father is a Muslim and I make a Muslim joke. It's kind of sad because I did it in the sense that someone would do it so why not me.

So biggs banns me for over a week for a bad joke which was my intention to start with... I doupt he could not see the irony in it or perhaps he was to judgemental in his judgement and thought it was one of my many "shitty posts" as he puts it.

Tells me I'll be unbanned after 2 days if I don't mention it.
Which I ofcourse do because bending to stupidity albiet it might be of moderator status is unreasonable, I gain another two weeks added on my ban.

What strikes me as funny is, we can not question bans, but moderators can apperently question their own bans and make deals/trades regarding said ban which proves to the point that the ban was not justified from the start; If it was, questioning/shortening it would not have been an option either for the member in question or the moderator.

I don't mind that much, most moderators are doing a poor job and for some reason they find the ClockCrew wanting when they themselves are a part of said ClockCrew: That is another discussion; I just wish they would not act like children most of the time.



If need be, ban. If not, why? It won't make the member in question act any better once the ban lifts I can promise you that and we Clocks have never been ones to bend to municipalities regardless of their exampels (BitClock Era.)

This topic proves a point albiet a lofty one, but a point nevertheless. You can hide behind the facade of silly badassery or authority but anyone with any sense can realise that iron fisted moderators is not what the ClockCrew needs at current time.

Dubble kill !

Tripple Kill !

Rampage!

ULTRAKILL!

Holy Shit.

M-M-M-MOOONSTER Kill Kill kill....