i dont know what that guy is talking about

is this subterfuge or a major plot point

Quote from: PhantomCatClock on February 14, 2017, 05:22:12 AM
is this subterfuge or a major plot point

its the former.

i never ruin movie/book endings, but i always make jokes in movie comments.

in Star Wars the Star Wars when obi trice dies, Luke kills like most of the storm troopers, I wunner if that was dark force proficiency manifesting through his anger? and that's why obi shoos him off?
let's see what wookiepedia has to say?

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Around 21 BBY,[143] the people of the neutral planet Valahari began trade relations with the Confederacy of Independent Systems. The Valahari were prolific starship builders, and the Confederate leader, Count Dooku, was an old friend of Harko Vane, the Viscount of the planet's royal House of Vane. Hoping to persuade the Valahari to stop selling fighter engines to the Separatists, Kenobi along with Anakin Skywalker went to Valahari on a diplomatic mission. However, the Valahari refused to comply, and the Republic established a blockade of the world.[144]

Refusing to acknowledge the blockade, Viscount Harko Vane tried to break through with a convoy of freighters. Kenobi did not want to resort to using the force, but Vane's freighter exploded in what looked like a Republic attack. In reality, his ship had been sabotaged by Dooku's Dark Acolyte Asajj Ventress. Vane's death prompted his escort to open fire on the Republic forces, and after a brief fight, the battle ended. The Republic then retained the blockade therefore the Valahari, believing the Republic responsible for their leader's death, joined the Confederacy. Days later the Valahari forces led by Harko's son, Tofen, destroyed the Republic blockade of the planet. Tofen then proved highly successful and relentless in his pursuit of the Republican forces. He was even able to defeat Skywalker, a renowned Republican ace, in single combat during the Battle of the Hexus system though his forces were forced to retreat after the timely arrival of reinforcement.[144]
Meanwhile on Valahari, Kenobi discovered that Ventress was responsible for the sabotage of Harko Vane's ship. He informed Vane's widow, Elodore Vane, of that fact. When his mother confronted Tofen with concrete evidence that Dooku was responsible for his father's death, the young pilot refused to give up his determination to fight the Republic. Some time later the Republic found Vane's base in the Veil Nebula thanks to a homing beacon attached to his Tempest Zero starfighter by Skywalker during the previous battle. A large task force was sent to destroy the base, with Jedi Master Plo Koon and Saesee Tiin as well as Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker. The Republic fleet managed to destroy the station and Tofen Vane was killed in a dogfight against Skywalker.[144]

Is that article relevant or am I just a stupid dumb

Canada.

Quote from: PhantomCatClock on February 14, 2017, 11:58:39 PM
Is that article relevant or am I just a stupid dumb

i didn't even read it tbh

Someone post the wookiepedia article about chairs

I'm about to move to Oregon

I'll let you know what I think about snow

it's course and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere

Quote from: RobClock on February 15, 2017, 12:15:23 AM
Someone post the wookiepedia article about chairs

Chairs were pieces of furniture humanoids could sit in. Like many objects in the galaxy, chairs could also function temporarily as ad hoc weapons. They were sometimes made of wood.

The term "Chair" could also refer to a chairman.
Han Solo owned a chair considered to be the "most comfortable chair ever designed."

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okay but if you had to have a fursona what would it be? I'm not just saying this because of you but I really feel like my spirit animalâ€"and I don't use that term lightly like some gross nerds doâ€"would be a 32oz Slurpee

excellent question, thank you.
I actually put some sincere thought into this lol. I thought maybe I'd flirt with becoming a furry, in the same sense that David Bowie flirted with becoming a nazi, just to sort of see what's there? but I couldn't get passed just that initial "which animal" hump, because for all the totemic qualities that I appreciate in various animals, none of them embodied a totality of my self-sense

I think I mentioned once before that I went to this crazy people new age alternative medicine atlantis aliens shamwow convention in SF? anyway at that thing we did a guided meditation to find our spirit animals, and I got a deer. which makes sense, because they're quiet, aloof, peaceful, and secretly a massive pestilence that only country people can recognize. otoh they're not actually that peaceful if you fux wit dem and also they're really fucking dumb

so I was thinking owls, because owls are cute, they're nocturnal, and fierce, and solemn, and they're associated with wisdom in the western canon, but when domesticating them we discovered they are the dorkiest dorks that ever dorked, and if you, like, just put a tiny hat on one, it's all like WHOA. WHHOOOOOA. haha owls just do not understand hats. and that's me, too, I seem smart and cool, until, you get to know me, and realize I'm missing some of just the basic beats of being a regular dude.

I was also thinking goat, because, I was nominally raised catholic, and there's this passage in the Bible, Matthew 25:something, where Jesus separates the sinners from the good people, and it's compared to a shepherd separating the sheep from the goats, which I always thought was a shitty metaphor because goats can't help being goats? so, peripheral to that, Kinsey remarked of the Kinsey scale, and people generally being more varying degrees of bisexual than exclusively straight or gay, that "the world is not separated into sheep and goats", and I've occasionally joked-not-joked that by that measure I'm unequivocally a goat. so goats kind of took on this adopted meaning for me, about self-acceptance and rejecting other people's bogus narratives for me. I also think goats are super cute. but they're also connotated with being stubborn, rambunctious, braying, and destructive, which, I am so not oh my gosh shut uuuup!

then I was thinking maybe a rat, because I'm a filthy dirtbag, but in a cute way. they're prey animals, so they're super skittish, but they're also social animals, so it's not like that's all that it is. they still socialize, just when they feel safe, because they're often not safe. I get that. rats also carry the reputation of dirty, scavenging, carriers of plague, thriving in the neglected margins of the world. except, psych, they're probably not actually responsible for spreading the plague. they're also friendly intelligent domestic pets that are way smarter than most people give them credit for, and more similar to humans biologically and socially than you'd expect, which is why, along with their reproductive rate, that they're common lab animals. it also made Universe 25 just.. fucking terrifying to me, and informed a kind of doomed outlook on the failures of biological programming as a teenager. it may be that I was being a little sneery in considering this one, it's kind of a big ball of all my angry teenaged punk baggage.
I thought maybe raccoons, because they're also dirty scavengers who are super cute but will fuck you up, pendejo, but there wasn't really much else to that on afaict
then I was thinking a rabbit because they're kind of a deer rat? like they're peaceful herbivores minding their own business and they will mess you up, but they're small and generally thrive in, like... a field. where there's not a lot of mess going on. they also fuck a lot. but there wasn't much else to this one, either. so then I was like oh a jackalope! that'd be funny. they're a rabbit and a deer and they're a mythical creature but a really dumb one that was made up as a gag. put that one on the back burner and never really got back to it
then I thought unicorn, like, holy fuck, how did I not reach unicorn earlier? they're a magical gay horse. I'm a magical gay boy. unicorns are thought to be the only mythical creature not borne of human fears, and represent purity and innocence. then I thought, I'm pretty innocent, but I'm really not that pure, and if you imbue unicorns with any grounded mitigating qualities, it's funny, but it's also been done to fucking death.

so then I was thinking cockroach, because I figured trying to make a cockroach into a sexy manimal would probably result in cronenbergian body horror, aka success, and also there's a couple of things that have happened in my life that by rights should have killed me and just sort of didn't, and what animal represents a passive buff to saves against dying better than mr. samsa? (that's a johnny the homicidal maniac reference, not a metamorphosis reference.) I don't know if this superpower is predictive, so I'm not going to push it, but it'd be funny to wave the tough to kill flag.
then I was thinking a dog in a human mask, because at this point I was just getting irretrievably literary and meta.

dogs are pretty common furlongs as I understand it, but it makes sense. they're friendly and fiercely loyal and impertinently curious and gut-wrenchingly empathetic creatures, but also given to selfish indulgence. so uh the dog would be, kind of a primal, beastial force, in its most domesticated form, and the human mask would be, not just a recursive play on representational avatars, but it would elaborate on the concept of selecting an animal avatar, because it's an acknowledgement of the animal nature of mankind, and the mask is a conspicuous choice to be something more than you are, to resist your base state and aspire to more. I've also got this kind of... flare of resentment over, like, racial purity bullshit, since I'm a big time half-breed, so I was gonna take up a moniker relating to the word "mongrel", which, while referring to mixed breed dogs, is also an outdated slur for people of mixed ethnicity, so I was going to reclaim that. sorta seemed like... a thing. idk. seems dumb now. if I ever start a production company or studio or something I'll probably call it Mongrel, and only you will know why!

after around that point I was like you know what fuck it I don't want to fuck any of these animals enough to ignore that none of them are going to carry all of the attributes of a human being, and a consequence of being the obnoxiously self-aware buttlick that I am is that I've cultivated an eclectic assortment of traits generally regarded as archetypically asynchronous, which represent a greater part of the human experience than I'm able to symbolically reduce to an animal totem to my own satisfaction. I contain multitudes, as Whitman so summarily dismissed, and so to hell with it all, we all know what being a furry is actually about anyway, so I just pick the sexiest animal: Zilla, from the 1998 American Godzilla movie.

look at those gams

damn

seriously rewatch it sometime, preferably with rifftrax, somebody working on this movie wanted to fuck

I read the first two paragraphs of your post and started scrolling down to commentâ€"with every intention of scrolling back up to read the restâ€"that your roadblock was just a little skewed. Like, yeah, there are some coincidences and similarities that make a 32oz Slurpee fit my life in a totemic sort of way, but I just wanna fuck animals as a 32oz Slurpee and that's what's really important here

but then I saw the Godzillas and I couldn't be any prouder of you

Quote from: Slurpee on February 15, 2017, 02:05:43 AM
it's course and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere

my friend, i think thats sand, not snow

also, in regard to your ''spirit animal''/totemic animal analysis, i have to say that:
1. it was VERY interesting (great post once again, mr slurpee),
2. i am puzzled as to why religious zealots used goats as a metaphor for ''sinners''/bad people, especially since goats are good and useful animals that have good qualities in them, while more ''sinister'' animals could be easily used for that metaphor, such as snakes, scorpions, etc etc.
2.5. owls are awesome and hella cute. in greek culture, they were always considered clever/awesome/cute/impressive animals, which is close to the truth. christianity ruined that by rendering them as ''evil animals''. i mean, they also ruined crows as well, by calling them ''evil'', while a crow is loyal to its mate(they stay forever with their mate), they are VERY clever, they are resourceful, they know how to use teamwork in desperate times, they play games on their free time(i swear, i've seen crows rolling on the snow just for fun, (on nat geo)), and they live for ~100 years. i mean yeah, why deem a poor animal as evil, when it has great traits like that?
3. i liked your thoughts on the word ''mongrel'' and about its deeper meaning. i thought that this was nice.
4. indeed, mr samsa was a cool character, and kafka's book 'the metamorphosis' was very interesting. depressing, but interesting, nonetheless.
5. i also liked the ideas+metaphors behind your ''dog with human-face-shaped mask'' spirit animal, and the whole menaing behind it. i mean, yes, we as humans, we originate from the apes, and (technically) we are still animals(kinda, in SOME aspects+cases), and yet, we have broken free of those constraints, and we forged a path that shaped us into new, different and unique creatures, creatures that are proud to call themselves as ''humans'', which is a great milestone, and an even greater honour.
6. i have to say, DAMN, those godzilla drawings were very... uhh, sexy.
i mean, that was some very suggestive posing, sir. very suggestive, indeed. im certain that the artist had ''interesting'' thoughts.

as for my spirit animal/totem?

i dont know.

my closest thing to a persona was a man wearing an iron helmet that hided his face(something that i always found appealing), and that elusive/mysterious persona got quickly solidified into the ''persona'' of BB10, something that got fused later on with some of my hobbies/desires/activities, and it also (later) got some of my personality traits(but not too many), some of my foolishness(but not all of it), and some of my wild style(a small amount, that is).

i like swords/armour/medieval stuff irl, and i swordfight (occasionally), i love playing snooker/billiards, and i often like singing(badly). i always like how all of these get combined with my BB10 persona. i guess BB10 is my ''spirit animal'', my persona, so to speak.

i never felt that an animal would represent my personality traits 100%, so thats why its HARD to choose one animal for your totem.

i guess dogs is a solid choice for me, because dogs are loyal, cool, friendly, and sometimes (some of them) are really crazy.

but yeah, BB10 is the persona i would prefer, in most cases. thats my totem.

there's a new b0rf star episode i forgot to post
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He only faked his death to buy time to boost the production quality like that GENIUS



I mean, uh, it's what I've been doing with my flashes

Quote from: BilliardBall10 on February 15, 2017, 04:29:05 PM2. i am puzzled as to why religious zealots used goats as a metaphor for ''sinners''/bad people, especially since goats are good and useful animals that have good qualities in them, while more ''sinister'' animals could be easily used for that metaphor, such as snakes, scorpions, etc etc.

Well if you look at the actual passage, Matthew 25:31-46, you'll find that it employs the whole Christ-as-shepherd imagery. In that case it's not that difficult to grasp, as you'll be hardpressed, even in biblical times, to find a shepherd with a flock made up of both sheep and snakes/scorpions. If you wanted to dig deeper, you could make connections to Greek mythology, the god Pan, half man & half goat and Satyrs, who often had goatlike features and permanent erections.

"I wonder if the originators of a religion built on sin, guilt and repression had a problem with this?" said no one.

Quote from: BilliardBall10 on February 15, 2017, 04:29:05 PM2.5. owls are awesome and hella cute. in greek culture, they were always considered clever/awesome/cute/impressive animals, which is close to the truth. christianity ruined that by rendering them as ''evil animals''. i mean, they also ruined crows as well, by calling them ''evil'', while a crow is loyal to its mate(they stay forever with their mate), they are VERY clever, they are resourceful, they know how to use teamwork in desperate times, they play games on their free time(i swear, i've seen crows rolling on the snow just for fun, (on nat geo)), and they live for ~100 years. i mean yeah, why deem a poor animal as evil, when it has great traits like that?

The problem with owls, and any nocturnal animals for that matter, was that people believed they purposefully hid from the light (virtue) in the dark (sin). I'm not sure where you get evil crows from, medieval authors even seem to praise them for the same qualities as you, monogamy and longevity.

Quote from: PhantomCatClock on February 15, 2017, 12:34:32 AM
I'm about to move to Oregon

I'll let you know what I think about snow

Snow is a rare treat here. Hope you like biblical amounts of rain.

Future roommate says it's been snowing a lot. Are you on the coast, then?