Clock Crew

Last poll was too specific, This is a general census of weather the forums need pruned or if they should remain exactly how they are


Initiative to prune down the bbs and remove forums to create a less cluttered and easier to navigate site.

I don't feel that they need to be pruned, although a few of them could be organized better. The front page is starting to get a bit too big for my tastes, such as putting the battle arena and the artists lounge under the same category in a subforum to avoid clutter (just an example, something like this would need a bit of thought).

I like it, as is.

Think when you go shopping.. and there are aisles marked 'cat food' or 'produce.' You only need journey down the aisles that pertain to you.

If 'Gaming' and 'Sports' were just absorbed into 'Arts & Leisure'... well that would be MUCH harder to navigate, don't you think?

http://bbs.coldhardflash.com/

Quote from: pop-tart clock;1876524I like it, as is.

Think when you go shopping.. and there are aisles marked 'cat food' or 'produce.' You only need journey down the aisles that pertain to you.

If 'Gaming' and 'Sports' were just absorbed into 'Arts & Leisure'... well that would be MUCH harder to navigate, don't you think?

nope not at all

No but I just use the new posts list anyway so whatever.

Also this thread was in the Gas Chamber when I posted in the other one.

Merge anime and sports

I say, youwhore, tv, movies,writing and music should all be combined.

flash and art should be combined. meaning flash help, showcase, competitions and events and pokemon battle area all in one

Quote from: Kodiakclock;1876549I say, youwhore, tv, movies,writing and music should all be combined.

flash and art should be combined. meaning flash help, showcase, competitions and events and pokemon battle area all in one

I'd like there to be a specific place where we could see newly submitted flash movies though. Once piney comes back and we get the portalgrapher done that wont be an issue but for now I'd like a showcase forum by itself.

Quote from: RibsClock;1876539words

this

I'm game as long as you guys bring back the gentlemen forum.

Damn Ribs did pretty much everything I would have done with his post and more.

But what he said.  Yeah.

Quote from: RibsClock;1876539General Discussion (maybe get rid of debate again; it's really not that popular a forum and never has been: just have some rules for more structured discussion in general and let the nonsense commence in the spam forum)
- Welcome Lounge
- YouWhore
Flash (get rid of pokemon battle arena and make the things allowed in this forum a little more broad)
Showcase
Site Discussion (a forum with strict rules for discussion of bugs, policy, suggestions, etc.)
- Initiatives
Arts (including your writing, music, paintings, poo sculptures, greek slam poetry about how oppressive ribsclock is, puppetry of the penis, ass-crack-o-lanterns, butt trumpeting, jackson bollock, dadaist ballet, and collage.)
Gaming (video games or pen and paper or whatever)
TV and Cinema Leisure (tv,cinema,sports,cooking,anime would be merged with this) -
sports/cooking could stay merged in here. it's infrequent enough to not matter if it's all together
Goldmine
Gas Chamber
Spam Forum

edited a bit. not that board catagories truly matter to me (I use 'New Posts') but this idea's fine enough

I like sockpuppet's edit because music discussion would fit in the leisure forum too.

Also if we pruned our forums, a lot of people (or at least I) would be less inclined to use the new posts button and threads could have more of a life span

EDIT: having less forums makes the site less intimidating to new folk, and we might actually be able to get a new member or two.

Quote from: SockpuppetClock;1876580edited a bit. not that board catagories truly matter to me (I use 'New Posts') but this idea's fine enough

I edited it a bit further.
General Discussion (maybe get rid of debate again; it's really not that popular a forum and never has been: just have some rules for more structured discussion in general and let the nonsense commence in the spam forum)
- Welcome Lounge
- YouWhore
Flash (get rid of pokemon battle arena and make the things allowed in this forum a little more broad)
Showcase
Site Discussion (a forum with strict rules for discussion of bugs, policy, suggestions, etc.)
- Initiatives
Arts (including your writing, music, paintings, poo sculptures, greek slam poetry about how oppressive ribsclock is, puppetry of the penis, ass-crack-o-lanterns, butt trumpeting, jackson bollock, dadaist ballet, and collage.)
Gaming (video games or pen and paper or whatever)[/s] (it's leisure too)
TV and Cinema Leisure (tv,cinema,sports,cooking,anime would be merged with this) -
sports/cooking could stay merged in here. it's infrequent enough to not matter if it's all together
Goldmine
Gas Chamber
Spam Forum

The order I would have them in would be this

Flash
General Discussion
Arts
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SHOWCASE
Welcome Lounge
Site Discussion
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YouWhore
Leisure
----
Goldmine
Gas Chamber
Spam Forum

Quote from: Topcatyo;1876584I edited it a bit further.

Don't forget showcase

i voted no but i obviously meant yes

also combine debate forum spam forum and general

just delete kodiaks threads. since theyre the worst

COMBINE ARTS AND FLASH ASWELL THEY ARE THE SAME

combine spam with showcase, there the same...right?

Everything should just be under one massive forum titled "Forum." It's genius!

Here's what I propose:

The Frogbag - (Spam, general, everything that isn't on this list)
Flash Stuff- Everything flash including competitions and events.
The Arts- Combine pokemon, art, music creation, writing, anything creative.
The Bureaucrat: Bugs, Feedback, policy, nomination, and initiative.
Entertainment: Talk about your stamp collection, or your favorite hockey team. Go B's!
The Goldmine: Keep it
Gas Chamber: Keep it.

Everything else we can slash and gas. Everyone can still talk about the same stuff, but this format will make things a little less confusing and processed.

Quote from: AbsintheClock;1876694Here's what I propose:

The Frogbag - (Spam, general, everything that isn't on this list)
Flash Stuff- Everything flash including competitions and events.
The Arts- Combine pokemon, art, music creation, writing, anything creative.
The Bureaucrat: Bugs, Feedback, policy, nomination, and initiative.
Entertainment: Talk about your stamp collection, or your favorite hockey team. Go B's!
The Goldmine: Keep it
Gas Chamber: Keep it.

Everything else we can slash and gas. Everyone can still talk about the same stuff, but this format will make things a little less confusing and processed.

I think this is perfect but id combine flash and arts. other than that this is flawless and exactly how we should do it.

Quote from: Kodiakclock;1876731I think this is perfect but id combine flash and arts. other than that this is flawless and exactly how we should do it.

We're supposed to be a flash group. Combining flash and arts would trivialize movies made by others. We should obviously be flash-centric (although we aren't, what with our lack of flash production but w/e this has always been a problem) and at least part of the forum should be visibly devoted to it.

Quote from: SatelliteClock;1876586Don't forget showcase

Duly noted and added

Forum is fine as it is. Everything is segregated and I like it that way. My sports are away from your anime and vice versa and thats how it should stay.

Quote from: clammo;1876855post

that being said, I still think that the threads could be at least a tad reordered and consolidated and we can still keep the sports thread as it's own thing.

At the moment the structure of the threads feels very arbitrary. We have a mix of original work and discussion threads in each section that feel like they were arbitrarily divided by how relevant they are to the community. I mean what is general, policy, and bugs reports doing mixed in with pokemon battle arena and flash help? And why the hell is flash help called 'flash help'?

I think a less arbitrary way to divide the CC's forums would be to separate them into two groups: discussion and original work. In original work you'd have Showcase, Flash WIP (that's what I'd rename Flash Help), Creative Arts (which would include music and writing), Competition & Events, Pokemon Arena, and CC Radio. In discussion you'd have all the discussion threads that we have. You could also have a site discussion section with policy and bug reports. Keep the archives and spam forum the same.

At least just do some organization, please, at the moment there seems to be very little reason for the organization of the forums.

Quote from: PatriotClock;1876851Forum is fine as it is. Everything is segregated and I like it that way. My sports are away from your anime and vice versa and thats how it should stay.

Its time we combine our forums and take over the cc. Only together can we achieve greatness. Imagine what we could do by having both fantasy football and anime fanfiction in the SAME FORUM.



Imagine the possibilities!

Quote from: RibsClock;1876893That's actually a pretty good classification.

Here's the thing: some of the things are ordered in more of a priority-based way of thinking (like putting flash and general at the top) and I'm actually okay with that. Or am I missing the point?

Well you can organize based on "priority", but because that's a relative value, a newcomer to the site, or even someone who's looked at the forums forever won't be able to intuitively navigate the boards. It also makes the line breaks between categories feel arbitrary because it's really the only thing you're organizing by.

There are ways that you can give forums priority in a categorized layout. Making a forum at the top of it's own category draws the eye to it. At the moment, the "Gaming" forum looks more important than the "Showcase" forum, because Showcase is drowned in other forums that aren't necessarily related to it. You can also de-emphasize categories by making them smaller. I've made two example forum layouts that organize first by the type of forum it is, and second by priority to show you what I mean.

[B]Clock Crew[/B]
[LIST]
[*]General Discussion
[*]ng bbs
[*]Bugs
[*]Policies
[/LIST]
[B]The Workshop[/B]
[list]
[*]Showcase
[*]Flash WIP (or at least any other name than "Flash Help")
[*]Creative Arts (expand this to include original music, non flash movies, and writing)
[*]Competitions & Events
[*]Pokemon Battle Arena
[*]CC Radio
[/list]
[B]Discussion[/B]
[list] (condense these if needed)
[*]Debate
[*]Gaming
[*]TV & Movies
[*]Music
[*]Sports
[*]Anime
[*]Cooking
[*]Writing
[/list]
[B]Archives[/B] (same)
[B]Spam[/B] (same)


[B]The Workshop[/B]
[list]
[*]Showcase
[*]Flash WIP (or at least any other name than "Flash Help")
[*]Creative Arts (expand this to include original music, non flash movies, and writing)
[*]Competitions & Events
[*]Pokemon Battle Arena
[*]CC Radio
[/list]
[B]Discussion[/B]
[list] (condense these if needed)
[*]General
[*]Debate
[*]Gaming
[*]TV & Movies
[*]Music
[*]Sports
[*]Anime
[*]Cooking
[*]Writing
[/list]
[B]The Site[/B]
[LIST]
[*]ng bbs
[*]Bugs
[*]Policies
[/LIST]
[B]Archives[/B] (same)
[B]Spam[/B] (same)


Now I'm gonna get in depth in the psychology of my forum layouts (this might quite possibly be self-indulgent). In my first example, General Discussion is given importance because it's at the top. "Bugs" and "Policies" might seem like they're getting unnecessary importance by being placed so high, but they are high because a user must be able to find those when they want to, and they are at the bottom of their list so they're given less importance.

Then we come to the Workshop. It might seem strange starting this after four seemingly less important threads, but because this is a much larger category than the first, and because it starts after a big line break, it is given a lot of importance. The first category acts as an introduction, and the workshop is where the real meat is. Showcase is at the top because our finished work is the most important to a casual viewer. Flash WIP is next and is given equal value to Showcase despite being lower on the list because [1]more people post in it and [2]It is still higher than four other forums in the category.

Then comes Creative Arts. It is shoe-horned in between two flash-related forums, but I put it there because C&E is more discussion based. Creative Arts, Showcase, and Flash WIP threads tend to have one piece of art with a roll of comments coming afterward, whereas C&E and PokeBattle Arena often begin with instructions and follow with a mix of discussion and art posts. CC Radio is at the end because it is probably the most discussion based, and with all "artwork" being a link to the radio station with text describing the program.

Then you have the discussion topics. Debate is at the top because it is the most non-specific and kind of the odd one out. Then it basically goes by activity, give-or-take. The archives and spam are good as they are.

In my second example I switched it up a little to give Showcase and Flash WIP more prominence than General Discussion. This suffers a little from the bloated-forum syndrome we have now. They eyes (mine at least) like to have a little appetizer category before all the big ones, so they aren't overwhelmed.

Congrats if you made it through this whole post about forum aesthetics.

Quote from: clockradioclock;1876734We're supposed to be a flash group. Combining flash and arts would trivialize movies made by others. We should obviously be flash-centric (although we aren't, what with our lack of flash production but w/e this has always been a problem) and at least part of the forum should be visibly devoted to it.

no


fuck off

I'd like to adress the worry that sports discussion will disappear if there isnt a sports forum. Before we had an anime forum and just used a megathread there was actually more anime discussion than with a dedicated forum. Though with sports I think there should be a megathread for each individual popular sport instead of just a single sports thread.

Though honestly I dont mind either way if we have a ton of forums or just a few. If the majority wants individual forums for every little thing or just big general forums I'm fine with either.

I think every forum should be consolidated into one forum called leisure. Except flash which will be called work harder you fat cunt

Quote from: YoYoClock;1877175I think every forum should be consolidated into one forum called leisure. Except flash which will be called work harder you fat cunt

Flash
Lesser Arts (any arts that aren't flash)
Pointless Yabber (everything else)

i think these forums have worked just fine since 2005 so fuck right off

no sir,

so uh are we gonna do this or what?

Quote from: Kodiakclock;1878139so uh are we gonna do this or what?

no we arent

There is no legitimate reason to get rid of anything, so no.