So I've been looking for a new computer to buy, and I found the windows 8. It's like a laptop but the size of an iPad. It looks very good but some people been saying it's shit. Tell me what you think.
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Quote from: pop-tart;1948806No
Well it is pretty cheap for a laptop, but when I saw people review it, I liked how it looked.
The interface is horrible. Metro is designed with touchscreens in mind.. and even then it is pointless and annoying.
What are you lookin to do with the notebook?
If you're looking for a simple laptop to make Flash on... and you want bang for your buck.. Buy this. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fujitsu-LifeBook-T2010-Core-2-Duo-1-2GHz-12-1-Pen-Tablet-Laptop-Notebook-23-38-/111079465162)
just get 7
there is a reason why they are the same price
Wow pops, it's so cheap. I'll think of it.
MFC has a point, win7 regardless of it going underwater soon is still a much better operating system then windows 8. Let alone the fact that microsoft operates in service packs. So you should wait till sp1 to check it out if anything. Even then you can download the release candidate and check that out for free as an eval so. Consider all your options buddy.
counter side to the argument is that it has a faster boot time, and over all system preformance. People seem to loathe the gui. Its not like you cant downgrade to windows 7 if you dont care for it
Quote from: pop-tart;1948810The interface is horrible. Metro is designed with touchscreens in mind.. and even then it is pointless and annoying.
What are you lookin to do with the notebook?
If you're looking for a simple laptop to make Flash on... and you want bang for your buck.. Buy this.
if that has pressure sensitivity im sold
Does it have touch screen? Then yes. Otherwise, no.
If anything else it's not worth the compatibility problems.
Okay so I'm going to go out on a limb and say all these mofuckas are batshit dumb here and here's why.
Yes, metro is designed for a touchscreen interface, but part of me feels like Pez is asking in relation to this commercial:
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Either way that's not a terrible tablet, but I'd just recommend a laptop. Cheaper, no touch screen but useful.
Windows 8 has lots of performance enchancements above 7, and while the start menu is something people don't really like, They're changing it so you can have the option to boot to desktop with 8.1, which is a free upgrade coming in in June. Alongside that there are plenty of ways to add back the start menu if you so desire... me, since I use the start menu like a glorified search bar, the new metro tiles aren't half bad.
Of course take it with a grain of salt, but the only way Windows 8 has after that "wonderful" reveal is, well, up.
But Xbox One is still bullshit wtf MS.
Quote from: ScrewdriverClock;1948844Okay so I'm going to go out on a limb and say all these mofuckas are batshit dumb here and here's why.
Yes, metro is designed for a touchscreen interface, but part of me feels like Pez is asking in relation to this commercial:
[u2]86JMcy5OqZA[/u2]
Either way that's not a terrible tablet, but I'd just recommend a laptop. Cheaper, no touch screen but useful.
Windows 8 has lots of performance enchancements above 7, and while the start menu is something people don't really like, They're changing it so you can have the option to boot to desktop with 8.1, which is a free upgrade coming in in June. Alongside that there are plenty of ways to add back the start menu if you so desire... me, since I use the start menu like a glorified search bar, the new metro tiles aren't half bad.
Of course take it with a grain of salt, but the only way Windows 8 has after that "wonderful" reveal is, well, up.
But Xbox One is still bullshit wtf MS.
In other words, wait for sp 1.
Quote from: Tropzilla;1948821if that has pressure sensitivity im sold
I believe the digitiezer is actually Wacom powered and sports 256 pressure levels...
That's about a forth of the Bamboo or an eighth of the Intuos... but does the average hobbyist even need 2000+ pen pressures?
I'll get the tablet pops suggested. I just need money.
Hmm... people still think that you have to use the Metro apps/interface.
I've been using Win8 since January (i think) because i got it for free with my new CPU and i decided to give it a try.
So just enter the Desktop Mode and it's exactly like Win7.
It's just stupid to navigate. Something as simple as going to control panel or explorer takes extra clicks. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Quote from: pop-tart;1948880It's just stupid to navigate. Something as simple as going to control panel or explorer takes extra clicks. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Well that's true, it's hard as fuck to do a simple task like Shutting Down the PC.
I'm building a new PC as we speak and I ordered Windows 8 for it. I work in interface design to some extent designing websites, and I really don't like it when people just hate on a new interface simply because it's new. Now, I'm not saying y'all are doing that to Windows 8 - you may have legitimate points. I've only used it on other people's machines for brief periods of time. However I've heard a lot of people hate on it who have never used it. And for years PC-users (the ones who actually care about what OS they use) have mocked the Apple OS notion that it "just works," and have taken it upon themselves to dive into their machines and figure out what makes them tick. But with Windows 8 they suddenly refuse to learn a new interface? Change is scary, but it's a good thing. It reminds me of every Facebook overhaul ever. People immediately hate it, and then after using it for a while they learn that they can't live without it.
Again, this is a pretty impartial rant, just saying don't hate on something just because it's new, dive in there and try to learn it and then make judgments.
Quote from: F U Clock;1948949I'm building a new PC as we speak and I ordered Windows 8 for it. I work in interface design to some extent designing websites, and I really don't like it when people just hate on a new interface simply because it's new. Now, I'm not saying y'all are doing that to Windows 8 - you may have legitimate points. I've only used it on other people's machines for brief periods of time. However I've heard a lot of people hate on it who have never used it. And for years PC-users (the ones who actually care about what OS they use) have mocked the Apple OS notion that it "just works," and have taken it upon themselves to dive into their machines and figure out what makes them tick. But with Windows 8 they suddenly refuse to learn a new interface? Change is scary, but it's a good thing. It reminds me of every Facebook overhaul ever. People immediately hate it, and then after using it for a while they learn that they can't live without it.
Again, this is a pretty impartial rant, just saying don't hate on something just because it's new, dive in there and try to learn it and then make judgments.
i think the general public has a decent enough notion of what sucks and what is worth getting. nobody hated on windows 7 or xp because they didnt suck
also i dont remember a single facebook overhaul, all i remember is zinkerberg making stupid nonsensical changes one click/drag at a time and being an annoyign cocksucker. actually i dont have to remember anything because hes doing this right now as i type
well, windows 8 sucks, according to half my school/friends/pc experts i know.
try windows 7.
Quote from: MiracleFruitClock;1948998i think the general public has a decent enough notion of what sucks and what is worth getting.
Man the general public does things like buy One Direction tickets in droves and makes Michael Bay movies hugely successful. People hate change and that's why the box office is crammed with sequels. I'm not even saying Windows 8 is good or bad, just that many people who get on message boards to complain about it are just 7 users trying to justify not upgrading, and haven't actually used 8 once.
Quote from: F U Clock;1949726Man the general public does things like buy One Direction tickets in droves and makes Michael Bay movies hugely successful. People hate change and that's why the box office is crammed with sequels. I'm not even saying Windows 8 is good or bad, just that many people who get on message boards to complain about it are just 7 users trying to justify not upgrading, and haven't actually used 8 once.
Well, see the difference is young girls buy One Direction tickets and computer nerds deal with OS's. So far all the computer nerds don't like Windows 8 at all and casual computer users are starting to go with Apple just to avoid buying a new computer with Windows 8 on it. In fact computer manufacturers have even expressed their dislike of Windows 8 because it's making them lose sells. No one wanted a tablet OS for their home computers, yet Microsoft went ahead and did it anyway. Just like with the Xbox One, Microsoft thought they could make people like something and it didn't work out for them at all. There really is no reason to go with Windows 8 when you have Windows 7 for about the same.
Most people on message boards who complain about OS's usually pirate theirs so they have no reason to think about it from a monetary stand point.
Quote from: SilverClock;1949728Well, see the difference is young girls buy One Direction tickets and computer nerds deal with OS's. So far all the computer nerds don't like Windows 8 at all and casual computer users are starting to go with Apple just to avoid buying a new computer with Windows 8 on it. In fact computer manufacturers have even expressed their dislike of Windows 8 because it's making them lose sells. No one wanted a tablet OS for their home computers, yet Microsoft went ahead and did it anyway. Just like with the Xbox One, Microsoft thought they could make people like something and it didn't work out for them at all. There really is no reason to go with Windows 8 when you have Windows 7 for about the same.
Most people on message boards who complain about OS's usually pirate theirs so they have no reason to think about it from a monetary stand point.
I guess that's sort of why the hate for Windows 8 makes me cringe, because the nerds bash Windows 8 for fairly complex reasons, and it trickles down to the casual user as a sort of general aura of badness around the OS even though it would be fine for what they want to do. Meanwhile senseless praise for Apple by people who say things like "It just works!" gets tossed around and so the casual user goes for it because they don't understand the ramifications of one computer manufacturer being in complete control of their product and not allowing you to, say, built your own system. (note: I use Apple products at work and I enjoy them I am not starting some kind of flame war I actually considered getting an iMac don't yell at me)
I'm a rare breed of designer who prefers Windows machines, so a lot of the changes in Windows 8 are totally gravy with me. Microsoft was ahead of the design curve for once in their life with a flat-design UI, and I think metro is everything MS hasn't been for years - minimalist, beautiful and forward-thinking as opposed to reactionary. I dunno, I just feel like they can do no right. But I guess people did beat off to Windows 7 so they hav their ups-and-downs.
Quote from: F U Clock;1949736I guess that's sort of why the hate for Windows 8 makes me cringe, because the nerds bash Windows 8 for fairly complex reasons, and it trickles down to the casual user as a sort of general aura of badness around the OS even though it would be fine for what they want to do. Meanwhile senseless praise for Apple by people who say things like "It just works!" gets tossed around and so the casual user goes for it because they don't understand the ramifications of one computer manufacturer being in complete control of their product and not allowing you to, say, built your own system. (note: I use Apple products at work and I enjoy them I am not starting some kind of flame war I actually considered getting an iMac don't yell at me)
I'm a rare breed of designer who prefers Windows machines, so a lot of the changes in Windows 8 are totally gravy with me. Microsoft was ahead of the design curve for once in their life with a flat-design UI, and I think metro is everything MS hasn't been for years - minimalist, beautiful and forward-thinking as opposed to reactionary. I dunno, I just feel like they can do no right. But I guess people did beat off to Windows 7 so they hav their ups-and-downs.
Well actually, I think it's the fact that people try Windows 8 out at Best Buy or wherever they go to get their pre-built computers that's really doing them in. Everyone who works at those stores and at college campuses always talk about having to help people figure out how to use Windows 8 and in the end none of them leave feeling enthusiastic about using it again. Which is exactly why they turn and run to the nearest Apple Store to buy whatever useless garbage they're shoveling out next (I've never cared for Macs, I don't find them fun.) since Windows 8 makes them learn all the basics over again.
I also don't think I'd say Windows was ahead of any curve this time either. They saw tablets were selling so they went "WELL I GUESS WE COULD SELL TABLETS! WE'LL MAKE THEM 10X BETTER!" and decided to force a tablet OS onto desktop PC's and video game consoles and no one cared at all. Regular users see no reason to upgrade to Windows 8 and jump through hoops to do basic functions, casual users don't want to learn how to use a OS in a new format, and PC sellers don't like not having money. That's why Windows 8 is selling just as well as Windows Surface, Windows Tablet, Windows phone, and the Windows brand underwear. Not very much.
All of this makes me feel a little upset, because I absolutely adore Windows 7, it's what I use, and I loved the Xbox 360 and Xbox Live when it first came out, but lately it seems all Microsoft is doing is crapping in their hands and rubbing it all over everything. It's sad times for Silver Clock.
Quote from: SilverClock;1949750Well actually, I think it's the fact that people try Windows 8 out at Best Buy or wherever they go to get their pre-built computers that's really doing them in. Everyone who works at those stores and at college campuses always talk about having to help people figure out how to use Windows 8 and in the end none of them leave feeling enthusiastic about using it again. Which is exactly why they turn and run to the nearest Apple Store to buy whatever useless garbage they're shoveling out next (I've never cared for Macs, I don't find them fun.) since Windows 8 makes them learn all the basics over again.
I also don't think I'd say Windows was ahead of any curve this time either. They saw tablets were selling so they went "WELL I GUESS WE COULD SELL TABLETS! WE'LL MAKE THEM 10X BETTER!" and decided to force a tablet OS onto desktop PC's and video game consoles and no one cared at all. Regular users see no reason to upgrade to Windows 8 and jump through hoops to do basic functions, casual users don't want to learn how to use a OS in a new format, and PC sellers don't like not having money. That's why Windows 8 is selling just as well as Windows Surface, Windows Tablet, Windows phone, and the Windows brand underwear. Not very much.
All of this makes me feel a little upset, because I absolutely adore Windows 7, it's what I use, and I loved the Xbox 360 and Xbox Live when it first came out, but lately it seems all Microsoft is doing is crapping in their hands and rubbing it all over everything. It's sad times for Silver Clock.
We just had a dialogue about computer OS's on the internet without screaming at each other.
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i agree
Quote from: F U Clock;1949755We just had a dialogue about computer OS's on the internet without screaming at each other.
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There ain't no brand name or OS in the world that'd make me fight over 'em. I just whats best for people and consumers.
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