Just because it was fucking rad (spoiler) and I want to talk about it
but, unlike any of my other friends, I care about the nerds here, so the thread is warning-labeled
Yeah, I agree. It was pretty fucking great. I liked it more the second time I saw it. There's a lot to appreciate. Some questions are left unanswered but you can tell it's because they are planning on addressing them in the later movies.
I don't think all the mystery needs to be explained. That was the fatal flaw of the prequels... trying to come up with a backstory for every fkkn thing in the universe.
Loved the movie. Favorite scene was when Han confronts Kylo. Both actors played the scene fantastically. I do wish they would have saved the 'reveal' for that moment.. instead of Snoke blurting it out in the most unexciting way possible.
I also think Kylo taking his helmet off for Rey was lame... and would have been better saved for when he did it for his father.
Quote from: pop-tart on December 21, 2015, 08:18:51 PM
I don't think all the mystery needs to be explained. That was the fatal flaw of Wookiepedia
I actually feel like a lot of the writing for Villainman was immature/undignified, but not as cringeworthy as Anakin's lines in the (admittedly, great) lightsaber fight in ep3. That, and the way they tried to Jarjar C-3PO the first time you see him (which didn't work on me because I was too happy to see that Anthony Daniels is now the only man in all
seven movies) had me worried that we might be experiencing that mass denial that happened during episode one
Except everyone who's seen it twice still loves it, so I'm glad about that
I need to watch it again, myself. The first time I was absorbing the story as fact. Now I need to see it again to see if I actually like it
Leia was underplayed. They give off the impression that in 3 decades, she hasn't developed her force abilities at all (other than her sensing Han's death.)
Also, the fact that she comforted Rey after Han's demise.... and not Chew-fucking-bacca... makes her a tool.
Then again, she stuck around when both her brother and hubby went skipping off when shit started to go down... so at least she has integrity.
S-ky-walker
So-lo
Ohh snap
R-2D2
B-en Kenobi
Quote from: pop-tart on December 28, 2015, 12:00:33 PM
S-ky-walker
So-lo
Ohh snap
ohhhhhh
i just saw this movie it was good
Over all the movie was great.
Quote from: PhantomCatClock on December 22, 2015, 05:31:24 AMthe (admittedly, great) lightsaber fight in ep3
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Quote from: ahehehehehehuh on January 16, 2016, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: PhantomCatClock on December 22, 2015, 05:31:24 AMthe (admittedly, great) lightsaber fight in ep3
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You have me there.
i disagreed with everything else in your post too but im not gonna get into it
I hate fighting losing battles, too
The Force Awakens was good in the sense that I was entertained for the entire duration of its runtime but the story is a beat for beat rehash of A New Hope, with no actual sense of threat from the bad guys to keep you invested in the success of the heroes.
6/10 functional but forgettable, like every JJ Abrams picture. Not as bad as '09 Trek.
Quote from: RobClock on January 18, 2016, 11:57:41 PM
The Force Awakens was good in the sense that I was entertained for the entire duration of its runtime but the story is a beat for beat rehash of A New Hope, with no actual sense of threat from the bad guys to keep you invested in the success of the heroes.
6/10 functional but forgettable, like every JJ Abrams picture. Not as bad as '09 Trek.
Oh, phew. I thought you were serious until that last part.
:ohboy:
I finally got around to watching this. It's good for the most part, but there was still a lot I didn't like.
My grievances:
It's never explained why, if the Empire was defeated (save for the First Order) and the New Republic established, why the Rebels were still around (and apparently operating separately from the Republic).
Why did R2D2 suddenly wake up after 30 years of being inactive?
Kylo Ren never felt very menacing, at least not the way Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine, Darth Maul, or Christopher Lee did.
Kylo Ren was in the Starkiller base after killing Han, then suddenly appears in front of Finn and Rey (not that big of a deal, but it still made me feel as if I had missed a scene transition).
I was pretty disappointed that the final battle was against yet another even bigger version of the Death Star. This is seriously the fourth time it's happened in a series of seven movies.
It was weird how Starkiller Base only appeared halfway through the film, and everyone's main concern seemed to be figuring out where Luke was dicking around. Contrast that to A New Hope where the Death Star is omnipresent throughout the film as a menacing obstacle, and the central goal is finding a way to defeat it. While people are focused on finding Obi-Wan, that's just a secondary goal intended to further the primary goal. Having the primary goal be finding a dude and the secondary goal be blowing up the giant planet destroying laser makes the plot feel less cohesive as a whole.
The lady Stormtrooper with the chrome armor looked cool but didn't do shit.
I also thought all the allusions and homages to the earlier films got a bit overdone after a while.
I'll probably enjoy it a bit more a second time after going back to understand all of the lore that was skipped over.
the movie was originally called "r2-d2 awakens"
That makes more sense. R2 awakening at the end could be because all of the other problems were solved. That's what they were fighting for
Quote from: PhantomCatClock on January 19, 2016, 06:29:49 AM
That makes more sense. R2 awakening at the end could be because all of the other problems were solved. That's what they were fighting for
wut? how would R2 know? Why would he have done that in the first place?
All in all I felt the movie had too much deus ex machina, even for a Star Wars movie.
QuoteAll in all I felt the movie had too much deus ex machina, even for a Star Wars movie.
Simply because the movie plot was about galaxy empire.
Quote from: PhantomCatClock on January 18, 2016, 08:59:20 AM
I hate fighting losing battles, too
fight me in real life and we'll see who lsoes skinny faggot nerd
I liked it, but not nearly as much as everybody else seems to. I think the new characters are great, which is great because I want to see what happens to them because they are genuinely fun to watch.
Definitely the funniest Star Wars movie, also definitely one of the most well-written. Better than the prequels combined and I'm willing to say it's better than Empire Strikes Back (fucking ewoks)
All the shit with the new Death Star and how it got blown up in like 30 minutes made the last half of the movie seem pretty pointless, and Han's death felt pretty pointless too, although I understand it's so Kylo Ren can go balls deep into the dark side.
I was surprised he was in the movie as much as he was. Harrison Ford is pretty much done with acting at this point, so when he was actually playing a substantive role in the movie I was like "Oh they're gonna have to kill him off" so I saw it coming about an hour before it actually happened
I think Snoke is just Emperor Palpatine again but even more fucked up from what happened in Empire.
you mean return of the jedi
yeah it wuddunt no ewoks in the good one
I hope snookie is actually just some really really big guy
snokes gonna be indian in the cupboard tiny
Ford's been trying to get Han killed off since Return of the Jedi
I mean Empire Strikes Back
didn't Harry Potter already defeat that sith guy
Quote from: ahehehehehehuh on January 20, 2016, 08:27:30 AM
Quote from: PhantomCatClock on January 18, 2016, 08:59:20 AM
I hate fighting losing battles, too
fight me in real life and we'll see who lsoes skinny faggot nerd
...said the 4 feet tall, 100 pounds heavy child.
Quote from: AnkhClock on January 19, 2016, 01:17:03 AM
My grievances:
It's never explained why, if the Empire was defeated (save for the First Order) and the New Republic established, why the Rebels were still around (and apparently operating separately from the Republic).
Why did R2D2 suddenly wake up after 30 years of being inactive?
I was pretty disappointed that the final battle was against yet another even bigger version of the Death Star. This is seriously the fourth time it's happened in a series of seven movies.
the answer to all those questions is:
because george lucas wants to make more money, and therefore he doesn't care about making good movies anymore, and he only perpetuates the star wars saga into ''new'' horizons.(for the last 20 years)
(i will admit tho, that this movie wasn't bad, and the 3 first movies of SW were good/enjoyable)
all the prequels sucked tho.
and you might ask: ''but george lucas is already rich, why does he want more money?''
the answers can vary:
1. because he wants to beat king midas rank
2. because he wants to build a real-size deathstar.
3. because he dreams of buying the moon
i think that its #1, but #2 sounds cool
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