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Title: Oblivion
Post by: KinderEggClock on March 07, 2008, 06:21:55 PM
Is there anyone else that can't get along with this game? First time I got to the part where you had to get a deadric artifact. I was an Imperial and YinYang told me to start again as a Kajit, so I did. After that I couldn't be arsed with the main quest line so I joined all the guilds, got some achievements in them, then contracted vampism. There is shit loads of stuff you have to do to cure it, so I couldn't be fucked to do that either. And why are all the enemy's so hard to kill!

tl;dr; I'm shit at oblivion, give me ways to make it fun.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: yinyangclock on March 07, 2008, 06:32:05 PM
how to play oblivion:
khajit custom class with heavy armour sneak blade ranged security etc
and play a thief with heavy armour

jesus
Title: Oblivion
Post by: BobbyClock on March 07, 2008, 06:35:59 PM
Khajit's are shit. If you want a race that has speed and actual beneficial skill bonuses, be a Wood Elf. Otherwise be an Orc (best race, no arguments) or a Breton (50% magic resistances + bonus mana, second best race).

If you're struggling with the enemies then you've got a problem, 'cause they're not hard unless you kick the difficulty to max. If you're not using a shield, do not use anything except a Claymore or a Battle Axe. Offence generally beats defence in this game anyway. Always block their first attack, and then start slashing away while running around them in a circle. You'll notice they can't turn around until the animation has stopped, and even then they can only do it at a slow pace so you can usually get 5-6 hits in, and then do it again.

If you want to get a boost at the start of the game, try this:
-Start a brand new game
-Go along as normal and pick up every single melee weapon you can find and carry them with you until you reach the part where you drop the logs on the goblins
-Kill the goblin with the bow only
-Run into the next cave and catch the attention of all of the goblins except the magic one. Kill her if you have to
-Do not equip a weapon yourself, and drop every single other weapon you picked up.
-Put whatever armour you want on, hold block and start letting them beat the shit out of you. You'll take about .3 damage per hit, and because blocking with fists doesn't knock them back until 50 block, you're getting an increase to both block and whatever armour you have.
-Do this for as long as you want. It's possible to get up to 75 skill points in light armour, heavy armour AND block as long as the goblins keep picking up the weapons after they break. Sometimes they don't.
-After you've levelled up as you want (takes about an hour. You can also max out your sneak skill here but it takes another couple of hours to do that I think) you have the choice of making the skills you've just learnt major or minor. If you major them up, you'll start off at an increased level but you will be weaker. The trade-off is you'll get to pick up better items to start off with.

Also, if you want to make the game easier without lowering the difficulty then do not set your most used skills as major ones. If you're using swords, don't pick blade. This way, you'll level up a lot less and the enemies won't level either.

Edit: Uhhhh anyone who uses Sneak and Security as major skills should be shot unless you want to power level ok. You can pick very hard locks with 5 security points and sneak levels up so easily the extra points are worthless.

You can get Sneak up to 25 before you even kill your first goblin for example and hey, that's just made the extra points moot already.

Edit2: NEVER go without Armourer unless you're a fist-fighting no armour wearing psycho. Or unless you know a way to get rich damn quick, because it's a major goldsink to not have it at apprentice straight away.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: KinderEggClock on March 07, 2008, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: Schoefield;1246360stuff about being good at oblivion

Cheers dude, I'll try this tomorrow!
Title: Oblivion
Post by: ChocolateCoffin on March 07, 2008, 06:48:58 PM
All you need is to get your sneak up, then you just hit people in the back once and they die :]
Title: Oblivion
Post by: BobbyClock on March 07, 2008, 06:51:43 PM
Quote from: Howard Moon;1246370All you need is to get your sneak up, then you just hit people in the back once and they die :]
Did this with one of my first characters, never got past level one hahaha

It's not much fun considering it's not a hard game anyway.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: TruncheonClock on March 07, 2008, 07:22:58 PM
Quote from: Schoefield;1246377It's not much fun considering it's not a hard game anyway.

Remember that one time we took one of your model swords and destroyed your disk? that was fun.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: BobbyClock on March 07, 2008, 07:24:34 PM
Quote from: Dominic Santiago;1246396Remember that one time we took one of your model swords and destroyed your disk? that was fun.
R.I.P
Title: Oblivion
Post by: TruncheonClock on March 07, 2008, 07:27:45 PM
Quote from: Schoefield;1246397R.I.P

it was great when we noticed that the Hilt did more damage than the blade.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: Blue on March 07, 2008, 07:55:16 PM
I used cheats.

Made a tall-as-possible dragon-looking character, named him Trogdor...

Then zoomed out, clicked on him, and used a code to double his size. Then I leveled up everything to 255, including speed and agility. That with double the normal size meant that I could literally run on water, jump over buildings, etc.

Then I used that super powerful giant fireball spell, and burninated the peasants with vigor.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: BluezombieClock on March 07, 2008, 07:58:04 PM
Oblivion is good but is too big to be arsed even going through half of it.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: Maltese on March 07, 2008, 08:00:34 PM
just enchant a set of armour with 5 grand soul gems for 20% Chameleon each.

there you go, permanent complete invisibility
Title: Oblivion
Post by: SoBe Clock on March 07, 2008, 08:56:55 PM
Quote from: 711clock;1246417just enchant a set of armour with 5 grand soul gems for 20% Chameleon each.

there you go, permanent complete invisibility

Woah, does that actually work?
Title: Oblivion
Post by: TruncheonClock on March 07, 2008, 08:58:54 PM
Quote from: Ganondorf;1246442Woah, does that actually work?

yes
Title: Oblivion
Post by: SoBe Clock on March 08, 2008, 12:13:59 AM
That's cool.

Also, I thought since this is a topic about oblivion, I thought I'd repost my video of a glitch I randomly stumbled upon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLR01ODB3oM
Title: Oblivion
Post by: MasterClock on March 08, 2008, 01:55:49 AM
I didn't like Oblivion because it was way too fucking huge once you escaped the jail in the beginning.  I like linear games more.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: miracle fruit on March 08, 2008, 02:29:24 AM
Quote from: Schoefield;1246377It's not much fun considering it's not a hard game anyway.
difficulty slider
Quote from: Captain Falcon;1246659I didn't like Oblivion because it was way too fucking huge once you escaped the jail in the beginning.  I like linear games more.
i actually wanted it to be bigger once i got into it
Title: Oblivion
Post by: PoisonshroomClock on March 08, 2008, 06:45:06 AM
It's a good game but it has it's problems, could just be me though.
Like I'll be going though and then it won't tell me what to do or where to go properly, or the game will actually fuck up, leaving the quest actually impossible to complete (and when you can't really be fucked picking up and leaving to start another string of quests it's quite frustrating).

I am playing it on 360 though and haven't played it with Live so if they've released any patches for these fixes then I wouldn't have picked them up.

Also the cure vamparisim quest is fucking ridiculous.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: SockpuppetClock on March 08, 2008, 09:46:07 AM
I like the PC version better because you can open up the console and do all kinds of crazy shit.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: KinderEggClock on March 08, 2008, 01:47:00 PM
Ok guys I take it back. This game is awesome. My only problem is that I can't go to sleep without contracting vampism again, so I can't level up :(
I've completed the main and arena quest line now though.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: Maltese on March 08, 2008, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: PoisonShroom;1246740It's a good game but it has it's problems, could just be me though.
Like I'll be going though and then it won't tell me what to do or where to go properly, or the game will actually fuck up, leaving the quest actually impossible to complete (and when you can't really be fucked picking up and leaving to start another string of quests it's quite frustrating).

I am playing it on 360 though and haven't played it with Live so if they've released any patches for these fixes then I wouldn't have picked them up.

Also the cure vamparisim quest is fucking ridiculous.

why would you cure vampirism?
Title: Oblivion
Post by: RoboDeath Clock on March 08, 2008, 08:47:44 PM
be an argonian battlemage. pioson cant do shit to you, can resist diesise 75%, can breath underwater and you get good access to good spells. its the perfect class for beginner players.

also when going into vampire fileld areas, always check your stats in the magic area. it shows what positive and negative affects are on you. when you first get infected it doesnt do anything really. go straight to a chaple and get healed
Title: Oblivion
Post by: PoisonshroomClock on March 08, 2008, 08:58:04 PM
Quote from: 711clock;1247595why would you cure vampirism?

uh i dunno maybe because if i stand in the sun for longer than 20 seconds i fucking die
Title: Oblivion
Post by: RoboDeath Clock on March 08, 2008, 09:15:23 PM
Quote from: PoisonShroom;1247762uh i dunno maybe because if i stand in the sun for longer than 20 seconds i fucking die
not if you feed on peoples
Title: Oblivion
Post by: Maltese on March 08, 2008, 09:20:10 PM
at one point I was obsessed with oblivion, I wrote a program in C++ that would make perfectly balanced characters that used stealth, magic, and fighting.

also using several grand soul gems, you could make your character nearly invulnerable, then you use a 10% protection spell, which wouldn't cost much mana at all, and be absolutely immortal.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: RoboDeath Clock on March 08, 2008, 09:26:27 PM
Quote from: 711clock;1247774at one point I was obsessed with oblivion, I wrote a program in C++ that would make perfectly balanced characters that used stealth, magic, and fighting.

also using several grand soul gems, you could make your character nearly invulnerable, then you use a 10% protection spell, which wouldn't cost much mana at all, and be absolutely immortal.

or make a chameleon suit so no one can see you and you can sneak attack all the time and do crit hits :D
Title: Oblivion
Post by: Maltese on March 08, 2008, 09:27:15 PM
Quote from: Robodeath Clock;1247778or make a chameleon suit so no one can see you and you can sneak attack all the time and do crit hits :D

I mentioned that earlier :D

but to be absolutely honest, the immortality armour is so much more fun, because they run up and try to hit you, then you just smack them down.

also with that invincible character, I built him with ridiculous strength and endurance, and high intelligence, so with ridiculous strength buffs and the 100% protect, I ran around killing everything in one hit.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: RoboDeath Clock on March 08, 2008, 09:51:01 PM
Quote from: 711clock;1247781I mentioned that earlier :D

but to be absolutely honest, the immortality armour is so much more fun, because they run up and try to hit you, then you just smack them down.

also with that invincible character, I built him with ridiculous strength and endurance, and high intelligence, so with ridiculous strength buffs and the 100% protect, I ran around killing everything in one hit.
fuck that noise! hit ~ and type tgm and youre a god. then type the spells cheat and have some of the fucking crasiest spells you cant even buy. i mean a spell that does 10000 damage, a fingers of the mountain attack that does 200 dmg in a 100ft radius. you cant get that shit anywhere else man. its like fucking nuts shit crazy fun times. go to a guard and insta kill him. see the gurds comes and shock them all and anyone else near buy with finegrs of the mountain and kill them all. you are the emperor with those powers. daemon gods will shit thweir pants mwheny uo walk buy. men women will orgasm at your pressence and have orgies in the street. you are the macdaddy of oblivion. top that bitch >:C
Title: Oblivion
Post by: SoBe Clock on March 09, 2008, 11:40:00 AM
Here's a good Oblivion mod for the pc from what I hear. I haven't tried it but I havent heard of anyone not liking it. It's actually 4 mods put together, and I think it has its own set of quests.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/142365.html
Title: Oblivion
Post by: KinderEggClock on March 14, 2008, 02:23:29 PM
Sorry to bump this but I having yet another problem. I'm trying to join the Fighters Guild, but I can't because I have a Fame of 82 and an Infamy of 142. Is there any quick way I can shift the balance?
Title: Oblivion
Post by: TruncheonClock on March 14, 2008, 02:27:01 PM
Quote from: KinderEggClock;1253589Sorry to bump this but I having yet another problem. I'm trying to join the Fighters Guild, but I can't because I have a Fame of 82 and an Infamy of 142. Is there any quick way I can shift the balance?

i think pilgrimages to shrines lower infamy, try that.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: RoboDeath Clock on March 14, 2008, 03:03:56 PM
Quote from: TruncheonClock;1253592i think pilgrimages to shrines lower infamy, try that.
thats if he has the knights of the nine expansion
Title: Oblivion
Post by: OvenmittClock on March 14, 2008, 03:21:20 PM
i beat the original game, now im half way throught all the expansions
Title: Oblivion
Post by: KinderEggClock on March 14, 2008, 03:25:03 PM
Quote from: Robodeath Clock;1253615thats if he has the knights of the nine expansion

I don't :(

EDIT: Fffffff. Dosen't look like theres anyway round this other than buying the mod. Do you think it's worth it?
Title: Oblivion
Post by: Mashed Potato Johnson on March 14, 2008, 04:02:34 PM
Quote from: KinderEggClock;1253630I don't :(

EDIT: Fffffff. Dosen't look like theres anyway round this other than buying the mod. Do you think it's worth it?

no
Title: Oblivion
Post by: KinderEggClock on March 14, 2008, 04:04:54 PM
Quote from: BRAIN SLUG;1253662no

May I ask why?
Title: Oblivion
Post by: Mashed Potato Johnson on March 14, 2008, 04:21:11 PM
Quote from: KinderEggClock;1253666May I ask why?

i dont know haven't really played the game.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: SoBe Clock on March 14, 2008, 09:07:06 PM
Nights of the nine and Shivering isles are worth it.

Nights of the nine is mostly for new missions, not much more added as far as items or spells, but Shivering isles is huge.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: Maltese on March 14, 2008, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: Robodeath Clock;1247817fuck that noise! hit ~ and type tgm and youre a god. then type the spells cheat and have some of the fucking crasiest spells you cant even buy. i mean a spell that does 10000 damage, a fingers of the mountain attack that does 200 dmg in a 100ft radius. you cant get that shit anywhere else man. its like fucking nuts shit crazy fun times. go to a guard and insta kill him. see the gurds comes and shock them all and anyone else near buy with finegrs of the mountain and kill them all. you are the emperor with those powers. daemon gods will shit thweir pants mwheny uo walk buy. men women will orgasm at your pressence and have orgies in the street. you are the macdaddy of oblivion. top that bitch >:C

I play the 360 version, I've reached the peak of 360 version awesomeness. :D
Title: Oblivion
Post by: RoboDeath Clock on March 15, 2008, 08:10:18 AM
Quote from: 711clock;1253796I play the 360 version, I've reached the peak of 360 version awesomeness. :D
i was gonna suggest using the ~ cheats to remove your infamy but since youre on 360 enjoy your no mods and useful glitches removed. youre better off with the pc version. theres a GOTY edition with all the expansions out.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: MarshmallowClock on March 15, 2008, 12:43:24 PM
The game sucks.

It's WAY too easy, and anyone who says they have any trouble with it is a fucking failure at life and should just stop. I got the game and within a week of playing regularly (1-2 hours a day) I was at a point where NOBODY could kill me. Orc/heavy armor. I have 1000 feather and anything I touch dies. I can summon anything I want and have almost all the destruction spells. I finished the main quest the second day I had the game, and by the time I'd owned it for a week I finished all of the faction quests.

The game is so fucking unbalanced (towards the player) it's ridiculous. They tried creating a realistic medieval-type game and the result was a very unrealistic game you could beat while still on level 1 (which I did).

tl;dr:
Game is far too easy to be fun.

3 weeks ago or so I "obtained" it on PC and got a buncha mods. That's probably the only fun thing about the game, I regret spending $50 on the 360 version. The only reason I'd play through the game again now is because I have a ton of immersion mods that make the game infinitely more realistic and fun to play.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: patriotclock on March 15, 2008, 12:45:39 PM
shutup
Title: Oblivion
Post by: MarshmallowClock on March 15, 2008, 12:46:18 PM
Quote from: PatriotClock;1254097shutup

your sig still makes me laugh. :3
Title: Oblivion
Post by: WrenchClock on March 15, 2008, 01:05:12 PM
DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DA DA DUN DUN
Title: Oblivion
Post by: SoBe Clock on March 15, 2008, 03:07:16 PM
Quote from: Pedophile;1254096The game sucks.

It's WAY too easy

You can turn the difficulty up you know.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: coalclock on March 15, 2008, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: SoBeClock;1254178You can turn the difficulty up you know.

REAL GAMERS ONLY PLAY GAMES ON EASY MODE!
Title: Oblivion
Post by: SoBe Clock on March 15, 2008, 03:28:04 PM
Quote from: ●cb;1254184REAL GAMERS ONLY PLAY GAMES ON EASY MODE!

HARDCORE
Title: Oblivion
Post by: BobbyClock on March 15, 2008, 03:29:53 PM
Quote from: SoBeClock;1254178You can turn the difficulty up you know.
Turning the difficulty up makes it tedious more than anything. With a combat system not designed for effective dodging and counter attacks you're just setting yourself up to get knocked down.
At max anyway. I died in three hits against the very first enemy you fight in the game, a rat. I was blocking as well.

Also playing the game through at level one is of course going to be easy. It's stupid that the game can be abused like that, but then you're stupid, Marsh, for expecting a challenge if you're not going to level up on a game that uses level-scaling.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: SoBe Clock on March 15, 2008, 03:52:15 PM
Quote from: Schoefield;1254189Turning the difficulty up makes it tedious more than anything. With a combat system not designed for effective dodging and counter attacks you're just setting yourself up to get knocked down.
At max anyway. I died in three hits against the very first enemy you fight in the game, a rat. I was blocking as well.

Also playing the game through at level one is of course going to be easy. It's stupid that the game can be abused like that, but then you're stupid, Marsh, for expecting a challenge if you're not going to level up on a game that uses level-scaling.

I always level up my acrobatics like crazy by constantly jumping when I'm in town, so I can do rolling dodges and backflips, dodging is pretty easy for me, unless I'm up against archers.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: MarshmallowClock on March 15, 2008, 05:13:04 PM
Quote from: Schoefield;1254189Turning the difficulty up makes it tedious more than anything. With a combat system not designed for effective dodging and counter attacks you're just setting yourself up to get knocked down.
At max anyway. I died in three hits against the very first enemy you fight in the game, a rat. I was blocking as well.

Also playing the game through at level one is of course going to be easy. It's stupid that the game can be abused like that, but then you're stupid, Marsh, for expecting a challenge if you're not going to level up on a game that uses level-scaling.

Yes, of course it's going to be easy at level 1. I knew nothing about the leveling system and I managed to beat the game. But how about this...

If I had leveled to 35 (the level I am at with my Orc who is virtually invincible) I'd be invincible anyway. I can take out anyone in the game with no challenge at all. I have all of the best swords in the game set to my hotkeys so when one runs out of charge I can just break out the other one. I can 1-hit anything I want, plus my armoring skill is maxed out so I can repair stuff to 125 whenever I want (so even if all my swords run out of charge/repair I can fix them).

The game is I'm a edgy teenly easy, if you choose to level as far as you can or not. It's more a game of repetition than anything else.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: Maltese on March 15, 2008, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: Robodeath Clock;1254006i was gonna suggest using the ~ cheats to remove your infamy but since youre on 360 enjoy your no mods and useful glitches removed. youre better off with the pc version. theres a GOTY edition with all the expansions out.

I don't have a good pc, but once I do, I'll get this.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: WrenchClock on March 16, 2008, 04:49:00 AM
hi i'm a level 25 dunmer named Detroo Hlaalu

pleased to meet you
Title: Oblivion
Post by: RoboDeath Clock on March 17, 2008, 12:21:13 PM
Quote from: Wrenchclock;1254627hi i'm a level 25 dunmer named Detroo Hlaalu

pleased to meet you
STOP! YOU VIOLATED THE LAW. PAY THE COURT A FINE OR SERVE YOUR SENTENCE. YOUR STOLEN GOODS ARE NOW FORFEIT!
Title: Oblivion
Post by: WrenchClock on March 17, 2008, 12:26:45 PM
That's probably what i get for having 98 infamy :/
also
HOPE YOU ROT CRIMINAL SCUM

/resist arrest
Title: Oblivion
Post by: RoboDeath Clock on March 17, 2008, 12:31:03 PM
Quote from: Wrenchclock;1255486That's probably what i get for having 98 infamy :/
also
HOPE YOU ROT CRIMINAL SCUM

/resist arrest

THEN PAY WITH YOUR BLOOD!!
Title: Oblivion
Post by: WrenchClock on March 17, 2008, 12:33:55 PM
IMPERIAL LEGION GUARD REJECTS YOUR YIELD!
Title: Oblivion
Post by: KinderEggClock on March 17, 2008, 01:29:38 PM
Ok guys, I downloaded shivering isles and I've now 100% the game. I am god.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: WrenchClock on March 17, 2008, 02:12:44 PM
I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE GATHER FORCES IN M'FRINGE
Title: Oblivion
Post by: miracle fruit on March 17, 2008, 11:58:33 PM
Quote from: Schoefield;1254189I died in three hits against the very first enemy you fight in the game, a rat. I was blocking as well.

either your joking or you really really suck penis at oblivion. it may be max difficulty but rats arent that fucking hard to kill
Title: Oblivion
Post by: Munglai on March 18, 2008, 09:31:18 AM
Oblivion is probably the dullest game ever made.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: BobbyClock on March 18, 2008, 09:37:02 AM
Quote from: Miracle;1256189either your joking or you really really suck penis at oblivion. it may be max difficulty but rats arent that fucking hard to kill
Fight the two rats in the starting dungeon that break down the wall on the maximum difficulty. They're going to kill you.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: coalclock on March 18, 2008, 12:31:08 PM
I hate how I get caught doing every little thing and when I resist I get a full on army after me.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: Maltese on March 18, 2008, 08:20:26 PM
Quote from: ●cb;1256434I hate how I get caught doing every little thing and when I resist I get a full on army after me.

see, if you tank a character to extremes, then you can take down the entire army.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: SoBe Clock on March 18, 2008, 09:02:00 PM
Quote from: ●cb;1256434I hate how I get caught doing every little thing and when I resist I get a full on army after me.

Learn to not get caught then? You probably suck at sneaking.

The game is actually challenging on maximum difficulty.
People who say the game is easy as shit obviously have never cranked the difficulty up, in that case, it's their own fault they found it boring, not the game'
s fault.

EDIT: Also it doesn't count if you played through the game on easy shit difficulty to become a tank to the point you can kill everything, THEN turned the difficulty up. Doing it that way is also completely stupid.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: Maltese on March 18, 2008, 09:17:38 PM
Quote from: SoBeClock;1256930Learn to not get caught then? You probably suck at sneaking.

The game is actually challenging on maximum difficulty.
People who say the game is easy as shit obviously have never cranked the difficulty up, in that case, it's their own fault they found it boring, not the game'
s fault.

EDIT: Also it doesn't count if you played through the game on easy shit difficulty to become a tank to the point you can kill everything, THEN turned the difficulty up. Doing it that way is also completely stupid.

you can just become a tank immediately, you just need to know how, I'm great.
Title: Oblivion
Post by: miracle fruit on March 18, 2008, 09:35:09 PM
Quote from: Munglai;1256378Oblivion is probably the dullest game ever made.
your probably the daintiest fag ever in your face pwn pwn
Quote from: Schoefield;1256381Fight the two rats in the starting dungeon that break down the wall on the maximum difficulty. They're going to kill you.

no they dont because i dont suck penis at videogames