Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: John Deere Clock on April 24, 2008, 09:03:09 PM
Post by: John Deere Clock on April 24, 2008, 09:03:09 PM
Eh, First Try at a new .fla? Comments And Suggestions please.
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Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: TequilaClock on April 24, 2008, 09:35:06 PM
Post by: TequilaClock on April 24, 2008, 09:35:06 PM
Well it is basically the logo which is a-ok as I can't fin extra details to add. I would suggest to try making a standard round clock, not sure of your style tho. Nice lookin'
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: FlossClock on April 24, 2008, 09:38:53 PM
Post by: FlossClock on April 24, 2008, 09:38:53 PM
I love RHCP please dont be shitty and sully their good name.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: PecanClock on April 24, 2008, 11:00:39 PM
Post by: PecanClock on April 24, 2008, 11:00:39 PM
I don't like it. Jazz it up and make it less simple.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: TremcladClock on April 24, 2008, 11:25:06 PM
Post by: TremcladClock on April 24, 2008, 11:25:06 PM
It's clean and symmetrical, so kudos on that. I'm sure there's more you can do to bring it to life, though. Maybe add some gloss or detailing to it and try to inject more character into the clock face, if you please.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: Ti-83Clock on April 24, 2008, 11:25:53 PM
Post by: Ti-83Clock on April 24, 2008, 11:25:53 PM
too simple
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: John Deere Clock on April 25, 2008, 02:27:56 PM
Post by: John Deere Clock on April 25, 2008, 02:27:56 PM
Yes It is simple, But then again the RHCP logo is only a star shape thing. Anyway thanks for the comments I'll get to updating it. Thanks :D
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: frozennn on April 25, 2008, 02:30:21 PM
Post by: frozennn on April 25, 2008, 02:30:21 PM
It's nice and clean, and easy to build on.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: John Deere Clock on April 25, 2008, 03:33:35 PM
Post by: John Deere Clock on April 25, 2008, 03:33:35 PM
Well, I have a new copy :D. I love how the body came out, The clock I don't know, Kinda experimental. Tell me what you think :)
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Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: EnvelopeClock on April 25, 2008, 04:00:13 PM
Post by: EnvelopeClock on April 25, 2008, 04:00:13 PM
it needs some zazz
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: TorchClock on April 25, 2008, 04:46:28 PM
Post by: TorchClock on April 25, 2008, 04:46:28 PM
Quote from: StagBeetle;1291976it needs some zazz
Pizzazz.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: HeinekenClock on April 25, 2008, 05:35:27 PM
Post by: HeinekenClock on April 25, 2008, 05:35:27 PM
Quote from: RHCP Clock;1291959Well, I have a new copy :D. I love how the body came out, The clock I don't know, Kinda experimental. Tell me what you think :)
Eh the clock is horrid in the new version, sorry :wiebel:
You could probably experiment with a little gloss and shade to give it a glasslike look, which would be cool on this I think. If you don't know what gloss is, I recommend looking it up.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: Ti-83Clock on April 25, 2008, 05:39:11 PM
Post by: Ti-83Clock on April 25, 2008, 05:39:11 PM
Quote from: amy_winehouse_clock;1292038Eh the clock is horrid in the new version, sorry :wiebel:
You could probably experiment with a little gloss and shade to give it a glasslike look, which would be cool on this I think. If you don't know what gloss is, I recommend looking it up.
i thought it looked kind of cool, but would be really tough to make expressions with that thing
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: LuxenbergClock on April 30, 2008, 09:17:18 PM
Post by: LuxenbergClock on April 30, 2008, 09:17:18 PM
I like the asterisk-clock.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: Loki Clock on May 01, 2008, 02:45:05 AM
Post by: Loki Clock on May 01, 2008, 02:45:05 AM
Never use gloss ever. Try filling in the wedges on the new clock face with dark gray triangles, so that it looks like the clock it's self is hexadecagonal in shape with the logo shape embedded. Also try drawing the hands and numbers with a small brush instead of lines, and make the body more saturated. Screw the people who think it's too simple, simplicity in design is perfection, your character is a logo, and good logos have nothing to do with anything if not design. So, the rest of your avatar should follow suit.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: LuigiClock on May 01, 2008, 02:56:59 AM
Post by: LuigiClock on May 01, 2008, 02:56:59 AM
it needs gradient
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: PecanClock on May 01, 2008, 09:04:33 PM
Post by: PecanClock on May 01, 2008, 09:04:33 PM
Getting better! I like the clock very much.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: HeinekenClock on May 02, 2008, 01:59:33 PM
Post by: HeinekenClock on May 02, 2008, 01:59:33 PM
Quote from: ZeitmiserZeitmesser;1297217Never use gloss ever.
I hate it when people say things like this, as if a certain way of doing something is wrong in 100% of the time.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: Loki Clock on May 02, 2008, 02:42:14 PM
Post by: Loki Clock on May 02, 2008, 02:42:14 PM
Quote from: amy_winehouse_clock;1298543I hate it when people say things like this, as if a certain way of doing something is wrong in 100% of the time.
It's a matter of my opinion that gloss is ugly and gaudy. I would find it acceptable iff the material being drawn is a glossy thing, like pearls. But then I hate the look of pearls, too.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: cokezeroglock on May 03, 2008, 12:57:03 AM
Post by: cokezeroglock on May 03, 2008, 12:57:03 AM
fuckkkkk yeah rhcp, best band ever
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: HeinekenClock on May 03, 2008, 06:43:09 AM
Post by: HeinekenClock on May 03, 2008, 06:43:09 AM
Quote from: ZeitmiserZeitmesser;1298615It's a matter of my opinion that gloss is ugly and gaudy. I would find it acceptable iff the material being drawn is a glossy thing, like pearls. But then I hate the look of pearls, too.Well there's gloss and there's gloss.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: Loki Clock on May 03, 2008, 07:40:01 AM
Post by: Loki Clock on May 03, 2008, 07:40:01 AM
Both of those images make me want to shoot small children.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: HeinekenClock on May 03, 2008, 08:37:43 AM
Post by: HeinekenClock on May 03, 2008, 08:37:43 AM
Quote from: ZeitmiserZeitmesser;1299264Both of those images make me want to shoot small children.Noh!
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: Loki Clock on May 03, 2008, 08:53:16 AM
Post by: Loki Clock on May 03, 2008, 08:53:16 AM
Yes. It's unrealistic, disgusting, and needlessly shiny.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: John Deere Clock on May 04, 2008, 11:42:38 AM
Post by: John Deere Clock on May 04, 2008, 11:42:38 AM
Lol, I check this thread after 10 days about cause well.. Ya ive been recording in NH with the band and shit, Umm All good suggestions ill get right on to making edits to my clock, Thanks everyone who posted.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: John Deere Clock on May 04, 2008, 12:04:46 PM
Post by: John Deere Clock on May 04, 2008, 12:04:46 PM
Sorry for the double post, Well i finished my .fla. If anyone would like to see / Use it in a movie go ahead. http://www.clockcrew.cc/talk/library.php?do=detail&item=3380&nocache=246 Please tell me how it is :D
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: CubeMelonClock on May 04, 2008, 07:06:36 PM
Post by: CubeMelonClock on May 04, 2008, 07:06:36 PM
Quote from: ZeitmiserZeitmesser;1299294Yes. It's unrealistic, disgusting, and needlessly shiny.
It being "unrealistic" is irrelevant because art doesn't have to be realistic.
"Disgusting" is an obvious matter of opinion.
"Needless" is an arbitrary assessment, not to mention a pompous one -- if the artist feels it is needed to convey what they want, then how can another person say it is needless?
I don't even use gloss anymore by the way because I have grown out of it, I am just playing devils advocate. I'd even go so far as to say I agree with you to a large extent, I just feel like it is wrong to be so imposing based your reasons.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: TheSponge on May 05, 2008, 01:31:02 AM
Post by: TheSponge on May 05, 2008, 01:31:02 AM
Quote from: ZeitmiserZeitmesser;1299294Yes. It's unrealistic, disgusting, and needlessly shiny.
Damn sir, you act like he posted a picture of Amy Winehouse.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: Loki Clock on May 05, 2008, 11:12:24 AM
Post by: Loki Clock on May 05, 2008, 11:12:24 AM
Post a screenshot of the fla, I don't have CS3. :c
Needless is an opinion as well, and I don't feel anything needs to be that shiny and in that particular manner of shine.
The effect is used most frequently by realists trying to use a cheap effect to add perceived depth, quality, and complexity to their work that they were too shitty to attain by ingenious methods unique to the artist's style, making it a polished turd that nevertheless dupes the undiscerning.
They're, mathematically, intrinsically related.
Quote from: CubeMelonClock;1300866"Needless" is an arbitrary assessment, not to mention a pompous one -- if the artist feels it is needed to convey what they want, then how can another person say it is needless?
Needless is an opinion as well, and I don't feel anything needs to be that shiny and in that particular manner of shine.
Quote from: CubeMelonClock;1300866It being "unrealistic" is irrelevant because art doesn't have to be realistic.
The effect is used most frequently by realists trying to use a cheap effect to add perceived depth, quality, and complexity to their work that they were too shitty to attain by ingenious methods unique to the artist's style, making it a polished turd that nevertheless dupes the undiscerning.
Quote from: TheSponge;1301269Damn sir, you act like he posted a picture of Amy Winehouse.
They're, mathematically, intrinsically related.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: CubeMelonClock on May 05, 2008, 12:18:04 PM
Post by: CubeMelonClock on May 05, 2008, 12:18:04 PM
Somebody really hates gloss!!
Did gloss touch you inappropriately as a child?
Did gloss touch you inappropriately as a child?
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: Loki Clock on May 05, 2008, 05:39:28 PM
Post by: Loki Clock on May 05, 2008, 05:39:28 PM
Quote from: CubeMelonClock;1301569Somebody really hates gloss!!
With the passion of a thousand burning suns.
Yes.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: Companion Cube Clock on May 10, 2008, 02:51:38 AM
Post by: Companion Cube Clock on May 10, 2008, 02:51:38 AM
Well I used mild gloss/shadows for my Companion Cube .fla in my sig. I think it turned out quite fine actually.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: crock pot pot roadt on May 10, 2008, 03:25:59 AM
Post by: crock pot pot roadt on May 10, 2008, 03:25:59 AM
Quote from: Companion Cube Clock;1305938Well I used mild gloss/shadows for my Companion Cube .fla in my sig. I think it turned out quite fine actually.
get ready for mass flaming then
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: PecanClock on May 10, 2008, 02:43:13 PM
Post by: PecanClock on May 10, 2008, 02:43:13 PM
Quote from: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad;1305947get ready for mass flaming then
I don't see why, it looks gorgeous.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: John Deere Clock on May 11, 2008, 07:08:54 PM
Post by: John Deere Clock on May 11, 2008, 07:08:54 PM
lawl i love how this has gone into a gloss flame war... Anyways ya, Comments on my .fla?
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: Loki Clock on May 13, 2008, 02:41:16 AM
Post by: Loki Clock on May 13, 2008, 02:41:16 AM
Quote from: FloppyDiskClock;1305952Gloss when done correctly can look rather spiffy, take this 8ball I done about 2 years ago for an example.
[flash]http://bay01.imagebay.com/_upload/img/34/fff.swf width=250 height=250 wmode=transparent[/flash]
The gloss just needs to be blended in correctly for it to look natural. You can achieve this by using lots of gradients and using soften fill edges.
Yes. With great effort, you too can make the quality of your 8-ball drawing be completely undermined by the lense flare filter in Photoshop.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: Loki Clock on May 13, 2008, 02:51:46 AM
Post by: Loki Clock on May 13, 2008, 02:51:46 AM
Quote from: Companion Cube Clock;1305938Well I used mild gloss/shadows for my Companion Cube .fla in my sig. I think it turned out quite fine actually.
Gloss is inherently not mild. Otherwise it's not glossy. It's intended to emulate paints in the glossy extreme of mattes, high gloss being that most extreme matte, which is incredibly unrealistic when drawing anything that isn't covered in extremely glossy paint, but which mediocre art faggots find incredibly convenient for polishing their turds and making their art faggot brand e-penis grow to Lock Legion calibur.
A polished turd/trashcan.
What you used in your signature was a very well executed imitation of radiosity effects, as well as the Phong shading model, not gloss, and while I admit that it can be a little drippy at times, it is still pretty damn well acceptable.
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: satan will destroy you on May 14, 2008, 01:24:29 PM
Post by: satan will destroy you on May 14, 2008, 01:24:29 PM
more alpha shading sass noise balls cannons blur props dancers stuff legs gradient
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: satan will destroy you on May 14, 2008, 01:24:38 PM
Post by: satan will destroy you on May 14, 2008, 01:24:38 PM
also dingen
Title: Eh, First try?
Post by: satan will destroy you on May 14, 2008, 01:26:03 PM
Post by: satan will destroy you on May 14, 2008, 01:26:03 PM
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