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Arts & Leisure => Entertainment => Topic farted by: GreyClock on May 03, 2008, 04:24:08 PM

Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: GreyClock on May 03, 2008, 04:24:08 PM
So there was this space ship docking, which was fine because I had to take a piss anyway. I went, nice and easy, I come back and the thing is still in approach. Fuck.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: GreyClock on May 03, 2008, 04:43:23 PM
I think that if I would turn on the television now, it would still be docking.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: DigitalLemonClock on May 03, 2008, 07:14:54 PM
undeniably hard-hitting criticism
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: DillClock on May 03, 2008, 09:33:25 PM
It is boring as all fuck, but you gotta give it respect for being the grandfather of all sci-fi films.

If it wasn't for 2001 we would still have movies where giant alien bug men come to earth and destroy everything and kidnap all the women.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: patriotclock on May 03, 2008, 10:57:29 PM
I tried to watch this movie 3 times and I fell asleep each time. So I deleted it from my DVR.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 03, 2008, 11:10:08 PM
I still haven't watched my copy because it's long as fuck and something else always sounds more interesting.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: CrustClock on May 04, 2008, 07:31:02 AM
:rolleyes:
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: skeletal on May 04, 2008, 07:33:47 AM
It's unbelieveably good but you've gotta approach it with the right frame of mind
It's definitely not a hungover with some time to kill movie.
The bit with the old man at the end scared the fuck out of me and I don't know why.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: Randy Pearson on May 04, 2008, 08:57:18 AM
I still liked 2001, but I will admit that it is one of the most overly-long, pretentious films I've ever seen. I don't care if it is Stanley Kubrick. I've also noticed a new trend of young movie aficionados who are watching Kubrick films and saying "Why the hell was this guy such a big deal again?"
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: LeekClock on May 04, 2008, 09:04:33 AM
You've got to be in a very philosophical frame of mind to be able to sit back and enjoy 2001. I think it also helps to understand some of the background of it so that you don't interpret the things you don't get as "pretentious". EG., the monolith (http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1683)
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: Biblo on May 04, 2008, 09:22:45 AM
no no no no no no!!!

the reason that movie exists is for the pure beauty of the photography tied to the music

the plot and themes are less important

while watching it, really think about how some of the shots could possibly have been executed
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: DigitalLemonClock on May 04, 2008, 10:30:51 AM
well i'd rather have people who are honest about disliking it than the people who pretend to understand it, but to me it's a very beautiful movie
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: salt on May 04, 2008, 10:55:39 AM
I still haven't watched my copy and I'm a huge Kubrick fan!


i dunno i can't find the time for it aaaa :v
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: CD Clock on May 04, 2008, 02:16:36 PM
It's so long because it's meant to last for the amount of time that acid lasts DUH
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: patriotclock on May 04, 2008, 02:35:47 PM
I don't care if it's long, I was watching Amadeus last night and I am not sure but I believe that is longer, what I do not like is that I tried to watch it 3 times and it put me to sleep each time. I was never able to stay awake through the whole thing. Also I wasn't watching it late at night either, once was at 10 am another was around 3pm and I am not sure the other time I attempted to watch.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: Biblo on May 04, 2008, 02:45:37 PM
Quote from: CD Clock;1300614It's so long because it's meant to last for the amount of time that acid lasts DUH

141 minutes?
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: CrustClock on May 04, 2008, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: The Sniper;1299942It is boring as all fuck, but you gotta give it respect for being the grandfather of all sci-fi films.

If it wasn't for 2001 we would still have movies where giant alien bug men come to earth and destroy everything and kidnap all the women.
Was Blade Runner inspired by 2001?
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: SirClock on May 04, 2008, 05:55:37 PM
Quote from: CD Clock;1300614It's so long because it's meant to last for the amount of time that acid lasts DUH
No, the conspiracy was that the trippy part at the end of the movie would be when you began to trip on acid if you took it at the beginning.

But honestly, the last ten minutes are the best part of the movie.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: joliet_jane on May 04, 2008, 06:14:37 PM
I happen to love all the pretty space ballet parts.  And everything else.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: Biblo on May 05, 2008, 05:56:01 AM
Quote from: CrustClock;1300743Was Blade Runner inspired by 2001?

it definitely took a certain amount of inspiration from it yes. not to a huge degree.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: CrustClock on May 05, 2008, 07:33:43 AM
Quote from: Biblo;1301359it definitely took a certain amount of inspiration from it yes.
eh ok... I know its a landmark film but I didn't think it directly influenced a new age of science fiction films like DillClock was saying. I can't think of any others that depict a future as realistic (rather than idealised/ dystopic) or feasible as 2001. I'd say Blade Runner was much more influential and was almost the opposite of it.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: LeekClock on May 05, 2008, 08:10:02 AM
Quote from: CrustClock;1301423I can't think of any others that depict a future as realistic (rather than idealised/ dystopic) or feasible as 2001.

Star Wars ring a bell? The whole idea behind the realisation of the star wars universe was that it was meant to be lived-in. Space Odyssey just seems more believable because it was set in our own galaxy (and in the year 2001 ) - but Star Wars was made under a similar principle.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: Biblo on May 05, 2008, 08:18:31 AM
Quote from: CrustClock;1301423eh ok... I know its a landmark film but I didn't think it directly influenced a new age of science fiction films like DillClock was saying. I can't think of any others that depict a future as realistic (rather than idealised/ dystopic) or feasible as 2001. I'd say Blade Runner was much more influential and was almost the opposite of it.

well i meant in terms of film making rather than overall theme or atmosphere. blade runner is more film noir anyway, with a science fiction setting
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: GreyClock on May 05, 2008, 08:28:06 AM
Quote from: LeekClock;1301439Star Wars ring a bell? The whole idea behind the realisation of the star wars universe was that it was meant to be lived-in. Space Odyssey just seems more believable because it was set in our own galaxy (and in the year 2001 ) - but Star Wars was made under a similar principle.
I would file Star Wars under Crust's "idealised" category.

Perhaps Minority Report is a better example?
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: LeekClock on May 05, 2008, 08:39:14 AM
Quote from: GreyClock;1301443I would file Star Wars under Crust's "idealised" category.

Perhaps Minority Report is a better example?

Oppressed by an evil empire, a whole religion wiped out, everything dusty and shitty and worn out - yeah sounds ideal!

Minority Report has nothing to do with space
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: Biblo on May 05, 2008, 09:06:42 AM
Quote from: LeekClock;1301445Oppressed by an evil empire, a whole religion wiped out, everything dusty and shitty and worn out - yeah sounds ideal!

Minority Report has nothing to do with space

well neither does blade runner?
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: LeekClock on May 05, 2008, 09:11:57 AM
Well that was your point not mine ;)
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: HorseChestnutClock on May 05, 2008, 02:42:53 PM
I love that film. I saw it for the first time about 1 month ago.
It looked boring at first but then I got used to it. It was fun to watch those rockets and such floating in space.
But the ending still creeps me.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: GreyClock on May 05, 2008, 03:43:27 PM
Quote from: LeekClock;1301445Oppressed by an evil empire, a whole religion wiped out, everything dusty and shitty and worn out - yeah sounds ideal!

Minority Report has nothing to do with space
Yeah but it's idealised because the good guys have magci powesrs.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: Marlin Clock on May 05, 2008, 05:03:27 PM
Quote from: GreyClock;1301730Yeah but it's idealised because the good guys have magci powesrs.
Bad guys too.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: Losperman on May 05, 2008, 05:43:47 PM
2001 is, in memory, an amazing film. But when I sat down to watch the Blu-Ray version I bought myself for Christmas, I have to agree that some of the parts seemed a bit too drawn out. The opening is a prime example. When I see scenes like that my first question is "what are they trying to tell me?" My next is usually "could they have said it with less?" The answer for that second question seemed to be "yes" in a few places in 2001. Long, drawn out shots are fine if they are used sparingly to really emphasize something or elicit some kind of tension. Kubrick must have had something else in mind with some of his scenes.

Still a great movie with some beautiful shots, though.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: CrustClock on May 06, 2008, 03:25:34 AM
Star Wars has always been a fantasy film in my eyes, and Lucas has always said that he was influenced by Flash Gordon style matinee movies, not avant garde sci fi. I would fit it under the 'dystopic' category, although loosely.

I'm sure 2001 had huge influence, but, outside of cinematography, not much in the science fiction genre.

What I took exception to was DillClock's claim that "It is boring as all fuck, but you gotta give it respect for being the grandfather of all sci-fi films." and "If it wasn't for 2001 we would still have movies where giant alien bug men come to earth and destroy everything and kidnap all the women" which I think is overstating its effect on the genre.

I really liked 2001 even before learning any interpretations of it.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: AlbinoClock on May 06, 2008, 01:15:01 PM
I liked 2001, but the beginning is agonizing. It takes so fucking long to get anywhere.
Title: 2001: A Space Bore
Post by: MonsterMunch on May 06, 2008, 04:16:19 PM
Weed helps.