Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 11:58:31 AM
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 11:58:31 AM
Alright, so there's a dude in my graphic design and illustration class named Fernandooo. Anyways, he's really good with Adobe Illustrator and comes up with all this cool shit. I first noticed the oddities when he was showing an assignment to my teacher. I noticed it was pixelated when he zoomed in, and since it's a vector program that's... odd, unless he was putting it online for some reason. Also, it was named Blablabla_by_Blablabla, the second being a person's online name that was not his. Also, it was saved in his Research folder on his flash drive.
Alright alright, flash forward, and skip a few weird things, I see him open up a thing from his Flash drive, and start to trace it in Illustrator. The next day, he turns in almost the same fucking image as the one he was tracing for the assignment. Not only that, he opens the original and claims he made that too. Well since then I've found the damned thing on somebody else's Deviantart, as well as two other Illustrations he stole from another artists. What should I do about this? I don't really want to talk to him about it, because there'd be no easy way to say that I've been covering your tracks and you're a fucking thief. But also if I tell my teachers he will be expelled from College, and it may ruin his whole life. What the fuck.
Alright alright, flash forward, and skip a few weird things, I see him open up a thing from his Flash drive, and start to trace it in Illustrator. The next day, he turns in almost the same fucking image as the one he was tracing for the assignment. Not only that, he opens the original and claims he made that too. Well since then I've found the damned thing on somebody else's Deviantart, as well as two other Illustrations he stole from another artists. What should I do about this? I don't really want to talk to him about it, because there'd be no easy way to say that I've been covering your tracks and you're a fucking thief. But also if I tell my teachers he will be expelled from College, and it may ruin his whole life. What the fuck.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: AMPEEEM on May 10, 2008, 12:01:40 PM
Post by: AMPEEEM on May 10, 2008, 12:01:40 PM
Just let him do what he wants
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Berserk Berserker on May 10, 2008, 12:02:37 PM
Post by: Berserk Berserker on May 10, 2008, 12:02:37 PM
Yeah, expell him, and teach him how to respect copyrights.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: frozennn on May 10, 2008, 12:04:21 PM
Post by: frozennn on May 10, 2008, 12:04:21 PM
I feel no sympathy for him really.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 12:04:27 PM
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 12:04:27 PM
Quote from: ampm;1306111Just let him do what he wants
Dude it's fucking bullshit. You should see the praise this kid gets for shit that he stole. On the last day of class my graphics teacher is talking to the class looking at a stolen piece of his saying, "You could leave College right now and go into graphic design, you're that good." I was so pissed...
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: frozennn on May 10, 2008, 12:05:23 PM
Post by: frozennn on May 10, 2008, 12:05:23 PM
Tell it to everybody, damn it.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: ChocolateCoffin on May 10, 2008, 12:06:18 PM
Post by: ChocolateCoffin on May 10, 2008, 12:06:18 PM
Make an intricate and intelligent plan that sabotages and embarrasses him in front of the whole class.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: SockpuppetClock on May 10, 2008, 12:09:47 PM
Post by: SockpuppetClock on May 10, 2008, 12:09:47 PM
Since it seems everyone thinks he's so good at it you should get the teacher to get the kid to teach the class on how he does it.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: ScareCrow on May 10, 2008, 12:26:07 PM
Post by: ScareCrow on May 10, 2008, 12:26:07 PM
Send an anonymous letter/e-mail to the teacher with links and proof?
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: EtchASketchClock on May 10, 2008, 12:37:55 PM
Post by: EtchASketchClock on May 10, 2008, 12:37:55 PM
I understand that you don't want a guilt trip for getting him kicked out, but some have to learn the hard way that you can't cheat your way through school.
But do it as Scarecrow said, use an anonymous email.
But do it as Scarecrow said, use an anonymous email.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Pin Clock on May 10, 2008, 12:41:56 PM
Post by: Pin Clock on May 10, 2008, 12:41:56 PM
Just boot him out quietly and peacefully. He should learn, but there's no need for extra embarrassment.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 12:44:54 PM
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 12:44:54 PM
Cheating would've been one thing, that's just answers. He's taking credit for someone else's work. God damnit.
Stop feeling that undeserved "pity" for him and focus that energy elsewhere, like, say, getting his ass in trouble for that shit.
We don't need another eBaum-drama in the future.
Is his line of study in the field of Art, or elsewhere? If it's art, then get him expelled. If it's just a course, then request that they be lenient and just fail him in the course or such. They'd probably be decent enough not to take it further, unless you have really shitty teachers.
Stop feeling that undeserved "pity" for him and focus that energy elsewhere, like, say, getting his ass in trouble for that shit.
We don't need another eBaum-drama in the future.
Is his line of study in the field of Art, or elsewhere? If it's art, then get him expelled. If it's just a course, then request that they be lenient and just fail him in the course or such. They'd probably be decent enough not to take it further, unless you have really shitty teachers.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Topcatyo on May 10, 2008, 12:51:12 PM
Post by: Topcatyo on May 10, 2008, 12:51:12 PM
Yeah, I'd feel bad for getting him expelled from college and possibly ruining his life, but at the same time he's stealing other people's creative work and claiming it as his own.
When he's showing the teacher his work, you could always say a quick comment like "Wow, that style is completely different from your last work" or something.
When he's showing the teacher his work, you could always say a quick comment like "Wow, that style is completely different from your last work" or something.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 12:56:02 PM
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 12:56:02 PM
He deserves to be expelled. I don't see what you're feeling guilty about. Yes, you should tell whats going on.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Marlin Clock on May 10, 2008, 12:59:18 PM
Post by: Marlin Clock on May 10, 2008, 12:59:18 PM
No sympathy for the sinner. Flush him out.
One way is maybe you can make something really good and post it on a site and maybe somehow get him to see it so he'll trace it, then make sure to show your work first before his so that he'll either have to refuse to show his work or be exposed.
One way is maybe you can make something really good and post it on a site and maybe somehow get him to see it so he'll trace it, then make sure to show your work first before his so that he'll either have to refuse to show his work or be exposed.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 01:00:19 PM
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 01:00:19 PM
Talk to him, it's not easy but do it, and warn him
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: BoomStick Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:04:30 PM
Post by: BoomStick Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:04:30 PM
Public humiliation all the way.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: SecretAgentClock on May 10, 2008, 01:07:48 PM
Post by: SecretAgentClock on May 10, 2008, 01:07:48 PM
it's not against the rules if you don't get caught
he got caught
he got caught
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 01:08:35 PM
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 01:08:35 PM
Spare the rod, spoil the child!
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 01:09:49 PM
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 01:09:49 PM
Quote from: Flux;1306147Spare the rod, spoil the child!
No, really, warn him, be serious
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: BoomStick Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:14:56 PM
Post by: BoomStick Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:14:56 PM
Quote from: Coal;1306148No, really, warn him, be serious
Shut up, Fernando.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 01:15:03 PM
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 01:15:03 PM
Quote from: Coal;1306148No, really, warn him, be serious
If FU warns him first, the kid will have time to make it seem like the claim has no base. He may beat FU to the teacher to tell him/her that FU has it out for him, and is creating fake deviantart pages to get him in trouble on purpose. If FU goes straight to the teacher, the kid is put on the spot and is unable to formulate ideas like that as effectively. The kid might just tell the teacher that FU is harassing him.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:15:05 PM
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:15:05 PM
Yeah, I feel like I should warn him.
Art is his field, and the thing is he's actually good at doing shit at Illustrator. At least, fairly good. His concepts just don't seem to be in line, so he steals them from other people. But yeah, I feel like I should warn him before getting him expelled.
Man, you guys are harsh mofo's.
Art is his field, and the thing is he's actually good at doing shit at Illustrator. At least, fairly good. His concepts just don't seem to be in line, so he steals them from other people. But yeah, I feel like I should warn him before getting him expelled.
Man, you guys are harsh mofo's.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Orangina Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:17:21 PM
Post by: Orangina Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:17:21 PM
If he cant actually make art why are you sparing him?
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:17:48 PM
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:17:48 PM
Quote from: Flux;1306151If FU warns him first, the kid will have time to make it seem like the claim has no base. He may beat FU to the teacher to tell him/her that FU has it out for him, and is creating fake deviantart pages to get him in trouble on purpose. If FU goes straight to the teacher, the kid is put on the spot and is unable to formulate ideas like that as effectively. The kid might just tell the teacher that FU is harassing him.
I'm not gonna' lie, one of the reasons I don't want to tell him is I don't want to give him a chance to make up some bullshit to explain himself. We had an assignment to make a brochure for a company, and he turned in one and the teacher said, "Yeah, but this is old, right?" Turns out he turned in a two-year old brochure made by someone else that is used in a department on our campus. However, he managed to convince the teacher that, "he was just showing her that example to contrast with what he's going to do to change it." B'okaaay Fernando.
Boomstick, that was hilarious.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Orangina Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:19:31 PM
Post by: Orangina Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:19:31 PM
Can he kill you if he knows you have it out for him?
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Topcatyo on May 10, 2008, 01:22:24 PM
Post by: Topcatyo on May 10, 2008, 01:22:24 PM
I would suggest warning him, but he may turn it around and try to get you expelled, so when push comes to shove, you might just have to tell the teacher.
If you really feel bad about it, you could always request that the teacher warn Fernando himself that he knows and that Fernando is under threat if he keeps it up, but I'm not so sure the teacher would be willing to do that.
Also, if you tell the teacher, make sure you have proof, first.
If you really feel bad about it, you could always request that the teacher warn Fernando himself that he knows and that Fernando is under threat if he keeps it up, but I'm not so sure the teacher would be willing to do that.
Also, if you tell the teacher, make sure you have proof, first.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 01:22:28 PM
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 01:22:28 PM
Quote from: F U Clock;1306155I'm not gonna' lie, one of the reasons I don't want to tell him is I don't want to give him a chance to make up some bullshit to explain himself.
And believe me, he will. Maybe you should tell the teacher, but insist to him/her that you think he should be harshly warned and credit for the assignments he stole should be taken away, but you don't think it's necessary to expel him. There's a slight chance the teacher might do just that.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:22:46 PM
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:22:46 PM
Quote from: Orangina Clock;1306157Can he kill you if he knows you have it out for him?
He looks like this:
So yeah, probably.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Orangina Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:25:42 PM
Post by: Orangina Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:25:42 PM
I'd just not bother him unless you know your teacher is one that can keep it anonymous
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: BoomStick Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:26:38 PM
Post by: BoomStick Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:26:38 PM
Quote from: F U Clock;1306155Boomstick, that was hilarious.
hmm? What, seriously?
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 01:26:54 PM
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 01:26:54 PM
Quote from: Orangina Clock;1306165I'd just not bother him
Doing nothing about it is a very, very bad idea. If he keeps this up in the job world, he could end up with severe legal action on himself. Having it exposed while he's still young gives him the opportunity to get back on his feet later.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: CrustClock on May 10, 2008, 01:28:13 PM
Post by: CrustClock on May 10, 2008, 01:28:13 PM
I wouldn't get involved at all. It's not your business, really.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 01:32:10 PM
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 01:32:10 PM
Quote from: CrustClock;1306168I wouldn't get involved at all. It's not your business, really.
If someone downloaded your flashes off NG and started passing them off as his own, would you want us to stay out of it instead of defending the fact that they're yours?
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:34:45 PM
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:34:45 PM
Quote from: Misanthrope Antelope;1306166hmm? What, seriously?
Yeah I might have actually LOL'd.
And yes, I have a nagging feeling I should get his ass in troubaaal, but I don't want to get him expelled. Perhaps if I tell my graphics teacher (who is somewhat in love with him) she'll just fail him and tell him to cut the bullshit.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 01:37:37 PM
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 01:37:37 PM
Quote from: F U Clock;1306172And yes, I have a nagging feeling I should get his ass in troubaaal, but I don't want to get him expelled. Perhaps if I tell my graphics teacher (who is somewhat in love with him) she'll just fail him and tell him to cut the bullshit.
Make it clear to her that that is what you want to happen as opposed to expulsion.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Orangina Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:37:51 PM
Post by: Orangina Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:37:51 PM
Be like sam fisher
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 01:44:28 PM
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 01:44:28 PM
Quote from: Flux;1306174Make it clear to her that that is what you want to happen as opposed to expulsion.
Good plan
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Orangina Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:47:44 PM
Post by: Orangina Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:47:44 PM
fisher
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: CaulkClock on May 10, 2008, 01:48:41 PM
Post by: CaulkClock on May 10, 2008, 01:48:41 PM
Not doing anything means that he'll get away with it, that will not do. So the only other option is some sort of anonymous warning. You could also just make him do said copyrighted work again.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 01:52:37 PM
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 01:52:37 PM
Quote from: Heavoman;1306181Not doing anything means that he'll get away with it, that will not do. So the only other option is some sort of anonymous warning. You could also just make him do said copyrighted work again.
He didn't get away with it if he got caught
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: DoxosopherClock on May 10, 2008, 01:53:55 PM
Post by: DoxosopherClock on May 10, 2008, 01:53:55 PM
It sucks to think that you may get him expelled, but fuck man, plagiarism is just unacceptable. It's unfair to everyone whom is actually working hard to earn the grades that they earn. There are too many fucking cheaters at school.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:54:44 PM
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:54:44 PM
Quote from: Coal;1306185He didn't get away with it if he got caught
Uh.. No? He'll get away with it if FU doesn't do something about it. The very definition of getting away with something is that you won't get into any trouble over it.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:59:20 PM
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 01:59:20 PM
What's weird is I don't really care if someone plagiarizes a paper. If I found out I'd let that slide easy, unless I really hated the douchebag doing it. But with art... I guess I don't really see someone's individual paper as being held up as particularly impressive, whereas with art you can get so much recognition within the school for shit that's not yours.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: DoxosopherClock on May 10, 2008, 02:02:36 PM
Post by: DoxosopherClock on May 10, 2008, 02:02:36 PM
Graphic art is no different than a story or an essay. Plagiarizers deserve death.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: TequilaClock on May 10, 2008, 02:05:10 PM
Post by: TequilaClock on May 10, 2008, 02:05:10 PM
I say make it public and simply reject his works, in that matter he will realize his mistake and be humiliated bout it. Sometimes it is the best way to make them see the right way.
Expelling is just to plainly dry.
Expelling is just to plainly dry.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 02:07:43 PM
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 02:07:43 PM
Quote from: F U Clock;1306192What's weird is I don't really care if someone plagiarizes a paper. If I found out I'd let that slide easy, unless I really hated the douchebag doing it. But with art... I guess I don't really see someone's individual paper as being held up as particularly impressive, whereas with art you can get so much recognition within the school for shit that's not yours.
That would also have to do with personal perspectives, I think. Since you're interested in art, and not so much in "essay writing", amirite?
But if you wrote an awesome essay and someone Copy-pasted it and then got their own grade based on your work, then damn straight you'd be pissed.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 02:08:07 PM
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 02:08:07 PM
Quote from: Tony Stark;1306196I say make it public and simply reject his works, in that matter he will realize his mistake and be humiliated bout it. Sometimes it is the best way to make them see the right way.
Expelling is just to plainly dry.
Everyone is going to know and his reputation is going to be destroyed, reguardless of whether FU makes it public or privately tells the teacher. That's just the way shit like this works.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: GreyClock on May 10, 2008, 02:12:21 PM
Post by: GreyClock on May 10, 2008, 02:12:21 PM
Blackmail him.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Orangina Clock on May 10, 2008, 02:13:10 PM
Post by: Orangina Clock on May 10, 2008, 02:13:10 PM
plus death factor
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: ChocolateBarClock on May 10, 2008, 02:16:37 PM
Post by: ChocolateBarClock on May 10, 2008, 02:16:37 PM
Quote from: GreyClock;1306199Blackmail him.This. Defiantly this.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: BoomStick Clock on May 10, 2008, 02:17:02 PM
Post by: BoomStick Clock on May 10, 2008, 02:17:02 PM
Quote from: GreyClock;1306199Blackmail him.
TRILBY! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING TRILBY?!
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: AlbinoClock on May 10, 2008, 02:20:26 PM
Post by: AlbinoClock on May 10, 2008, 02:20:26 PM
You know, I normally don't give a shit what people do, but that shit's unacceptable. You can't lie about making art. Teach this kid a lesson before he learns it with a lawsuit from a client.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: GodClock on May 10, 2008, 02:25:43 PM
Post by: GodClock on May 10, 2008, 02:25:43 PM
Quote from: Pin Clock;1306129Just boot him out quietly and peacefully. He should learn, but there's no need for extra embarrassment.
thats no fun
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Biggskoo on May 10, 2008, 02:26:49 PM
Post by: Biggskoo on May 10, 2008, 02:26:49 PM
FUCK HIM UP NIGGA
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: crock pot pot roadt on May 10, 2008, 02:27:18 PM
Post by: crock pot pot roadt on May 10, 2008, 02:27:18 PM
Quote from: GreyClock;1306199Blackmail him.
Quote from: Sir Bakley;1306211FUCK HIM UP NIGGA:this:
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Biggskoo on May 10, 2008, 02:28:15 PM
Post by: Biggskoo on May 10, 2008, 02:28:15 PM
yes because blackmailing people never turns out bad and is always 100% a good and safe idea
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Quill on May 10, 2008, 02:30:04 PM
Post by: Quill on May 10, 2008, 02:30:04 PM
I say just fuck with him. Just little things like if he gets up and walks away open a text and leave him a message like "I know" or "Cheater"
Fucking with people is more fun than getting him expelled.
Fucking with people is more fun than getting him expelled.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: BoomStick Clock on May 10, 2008, 02:41:27 PM
Post by: BoomStick Clock on May 10, 2008, 02:41:27 PM
Deaf girls are mean :(
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 02:46:24 PM
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 02:46:24 PM
Snitching is uncool, mister.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 02:48:55 PM
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 02:48:55 PM
Quote from: ChickenClock;1306231Snitching is uncool, mister.
Only when it's about trivial shit.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: AlbinoClock on May 10, 2008, 02:49:02 PM
Post by: AlbinoClock on May 10, 2008, 02:49:02 PM
Quote from: ChickenClock;1306231Snitching is uncool, mister.
Art theft is so much less cool.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 02:56:21 PM
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 02:56:21 PM
Quote from: China Clock;1306232Only when it's about trivial shit.
This sounds pretty trivial.
Let us know as soon as he steals The Nightwatch from the Rijksmuseum and tries to hand it in or something.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Berserk Berserker on May 10, 2008, 02:58:09 PM
Post by: Berserk Berserker on May 10, 2008, 02:58:09 PM
Quote from: ChickenClock;1306236This sounds pretty trivial.
Let us know as soon as he steals The Nightwatch from the Rijksmuseum and tries to hand it in or something.
Actually, if he were to trace it as a vector, that would technically "not" be plagiarism because it's in the Public Domain because it was made before copyright even existed.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: AlbinoClock on May 10, 2008, 03:02:26 PM
Post by: AlbinoClock on May 10, 2008, 03:02:26 PM
Quote from: ChickenClock;1306236This sounds pretty trivial.
Let us know as soon as he steals The Nightwatch from the Rijksmuseum and tries to hand it in or something.
It's gonna end up getting him sued by a client some day. Best to let him have his fuck up from it right away.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 03:02:58 PM
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 03:02:58 PM
Quote from: iDix;1306238Actually, if he were to trace it as a vector, that would technically "not" be plagiarism because it's in the Public Domain because it was made before copyright even existed.
Actually, shut up
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 03:06:00 PM
Post by: FluxCapacitorClock on May 10, 2008, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: CadillacClock;1306240(which starts at University/College) it's simply a dog eat dog world.
This right here
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 03:12:15 PM
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 03:12:15 PM
Quote from: ChickenClock;1306236This sounds pretty trivial.
Let us know as soon as he steals The Nightwatch from the Rijksmuseum and tries to hand it in or something.
Claiming credit for a work you did not do and at the same time surpassing others with this stolen work is not trivial.
First of, this will greatly boost his grades and give him an unfair advantage over others in a market that is rather slim as-is. Thus causing someone more deserving to be out of a job.
Secondly, as stated before, this is something that will turn into a huge deal when he actually moves on. Either in the form of incompetence or continued plagiarism. In either case, what the fuck is he doing on that workforce?
Lastly, he obviously doesn't care about the fact that plagiarism is wrong, he doesn't have much of a moral highground to stand on to complain about being snitched on.
Just get his ass thrown out. Stop feeling sorry for people who don't deserve it.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: ChodeClock on May 10, 2008, 03:21:21 PM
Post by: ChodeClock on May 10, 2008, 03:21:21 PM
Expose the guy and tell us how it went.
What are you, a racist?
Quote from: F U Clock;1306164He looks like this:
So yeah, probably.
What are you, a racist?
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: UnknownClock on May 10, 2008, 03:33:01 PM
Post by: UnknownClock on May 10, 2008, 03:33:01 PM
if he finds out it was you, I think you could take him on
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: FileCabinetClock on May 10, 2008, 03:38:02 PM
Post by: FileCabinetClock on May 10, 2008, 03:38:02 PM
Depends on how big of a dick he is.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 03:39:35 PM
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 03:39:35 PM
Quote from: unknownclock?;1306270if he finds out it was you, I think you could take him on
Are you kidding? FU Clock could snap his neck with one punch to the jaw
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: AlbinoClock on May 10, 2008, 03:46:33 PM
Post by: AlbinoClock on May 10, 2008, 03:46:33 PM
Really, FU, be a man. Do the right thing.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Steve on May 10, 2008, 03:49:30 PM
Post by: Steve on May 10, 2008, 03:49:30 PM
Take him down.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Bigglesnoots on May 10, 2008, 03:51:13 PM
Post by: Bigglesnoots on May 10, 2008, 03:51:13 PM
Stealing is wrong.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Solenoidclock on May 10, 2008, 03:51:27 PM
Post by: Solenoidclock on May 10, 2008, 03:51:27 PM
I have an art student who traced armadillos for his entry to the Texas rodeo art contest. I discretely pulled him aside and warned him about plagiarism, he pretended to heed, and ended up winning second place in the region with the same drawing he said he was going to get rid of.
I exposed him and he had his award revoked. The school reprimanded him and revoked his recess for two weeks while his parents freaked shit on me for upsetting him.
Moral, bust him early and have him penalized or it'll be worse later. Can you imagine him losing his diploma?
I exposed him and he had his award revoked. The school reprimanded him and revoked his recess for two weeks while his parents freaked shit on me for upsetting him.
Moral, bust him early and have him penalized or it'll be worse later. Can you imagine him losing his diploma?
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: RomanClock on May 10, 2008, 03:52:57 PM
Post by: RomanClock on May 10, 2008, 03:52:57 PM
Well, telling him risks your own credibility, so don't tell him.
Telling the teacher yourself might create suspicion and unwanted tension, so the direct approach would be a last resort UNLESS you have absolute proof.
I would suggest starting with a anonymous email.
I think a big problem though may be the "incompetence" of the teacher, since if he were really skilled at what he was teaching, he probably would have been able to spot these discrepancies, though I know that not all teachers are actually experts at what they teach so I don't want to jump to conclusions.
Telling the teacher yourself might create suspicion and unwanted tension, so the direct approach would be a last resort UNLESS you have absolute proof.
I would suggest starting with a anonymous email.
I think a big problem though may be the "incompetence" of the teacher, since if he were really skilled at what he was teaching, he probably would have been able to spot these discrepancies, though I know that not all teachers are actually experts at what they teach so I don't want to jump to conclusions.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Wind-up Clock on May 10, 2008, 03:55:00 PM
Post by: Wind-up Clock on May 10, 2008, 03:55:00 PM
He's gonna pay now or he's gonna pay later.
I'd say anonymous email, link to deviantart pages.
I'd say anonymous email, link to deviantart pages.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: HorseChestnutClock on May 10, 2008, 04:11:28 PM
Post by: HorseChestnutClock on May 10, 2008, 04:11:28 PM
Put a note in his bag or desk or where ever, saying "I know your are stealing. You will be expelled."
After reading this he'll probably stop stealing.
After reading this he'll probably stop stealing.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Steve on May 10, 2008, 04:19:59 PM
Post by: Steve on May 10, 2008, 04:19:59 PM
TAKE HIM DOWN.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: FileCabinetClock on May 10, 2008, 04:22:25 PM
Post by: FileCabinetClock on May 10, 2008, 04:22:25 PM
Quote from: HorseChestnutClock;1306326Put a note in his bag or desk or where ever, saying "I know your are stealing. You will be expelled."
After reading this he'll probably stop stealing.
i like this one
Quote from: Steve;1306335TAKE HIM DOWN.
this too
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: joliet_jane on May 10, 2008, 04:29:52 PM
Post by: joliet_jane on May 10, 2008, 04:29:52 PM
Warning still sounds like a good idea first. He clearly doesn't seem to think that cutting corners for some extra spare time will ever have consequences.
I once did a group project with someone for a large research paper. We both did half, and I said I'd would edit them together. I found out I had to change 60% of his because it was plagiarized verbatim. I fixed it all and turned it in, but I never confronted him about it. I actually do believe he thought it was okay to do it! And he was older, too.
I once did a group project with someone for a large research paper. We both did half, and I said I'd would edit them together. I found out I had to change 60% of his because it was plagiarized verbatim. I fixed it all and turned it in, but I never confronted him about it. I actually do believe he thought it was okay to do it! And he was older, too.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Steve on May 10, 2008, 04:31:58 PM
Post by: Steve on May 10, 2008, 04:31:58 PM
TAKE HIM DOWN
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: FileCabinetClock on May 10, 2008, 04:41:25 PM
Post by: FileCabinetClock on May 10, 2008, 04:41:25 PM
Quote from: joliet_jane;1306353Warning still sounds like a good idea first. He clearly doesn't seem to think that cutting corners for some extra spare time will ever have consequences.
I once did a group project with someone for a large research paper. We both did half, and I said I'd would edit them together. I found out I had to change 60% of his because it was plagiarized verbatim. I fixed it all and turned it in, but I never confronted him about it. I actually do believe he thought it was okay to do it! And he was older, too.
lots of people just don't understand plagiarism. some think that changing 3 words makes it ok, it's pretty stupid if you ask me :\
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: joliet_jane on May 10, 2008, 04:47:35 PM
Post by: joliet_jane on May 10, 2008, 04:47:35 PM
Quote from: ULTRA_CLOck;1306371lots of people just don't understand plagiarism. some think that changing 3 words makes it ok, it's pretty stupid if you ask me :\That goes double for my situation because it was a graduate class! He was a bit older and had a job, so he must've thought "well we're not kids anymore, so surely we won't be suspected." I'm proud that it got an A and was 90% my work, though.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: BilliardBall10 on May 10, 2008, 04:54:52 PM
Post by: BilliardBall10 on May 10, 2008, 04:54:52 PM
Quote from: Coal;1306141Talk to him, it's not easy but do it, and warn him
do this.
talk him, and tell him taht he could get in deep trouble if he do that, not only in college, but any aspect in his life.
thieving is wrong. teach him, and give him, a lesson. warn him, that if he doesnt stops this, and make his OWN stuff, he will get expeled.
warn him.
ps.im seriously, surprised clock crew. you mean, to expel this kid, and deny him of every future, and/or of every way to make a career? well, sure, he traced a pic, of someone famous, and passed it as his own work, but i may ask, you WTF. did he steal something from a bank? did he murder someone? no. so, why so much hate? (again, for those who will go batshit insane of me, i repeat, I FUCKING HATE art theft, yet i believe the kids need to learn this, by TEACHING). so, i really wonder, if it was you (the other clocks) you would expel him, right? for teh trace. woa, and to think that some clocks trace, woa. very cool
yet, he needs to be warned
FU, i think you should tell the kid the risk he's been into. if the says then, that he will continue his way, f*ck it. let him be. dont become a snitch.
anything but a snitch.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Hamsa Clock on May 10, 2008, 04:56:04 PM
Post by: Hamsa Clock on May 10, 2008, 04:56:04 PM
Blackmail him for sexual favors.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Thor on May 10, 2008, 06:03:41 PM
Post by: Thor on May 10, 2008, 06:03:41 PM
Would you not call the cops if somebody robbed your house because it could "ruin their life" if they got caught?
Making up bullshit answers to any question you can think of isn't going to be hard if he keeps his cool.
This is why confronting the kid first is also stupid.
Quote from: FloppyDiskClock;1306456Ask him bullshit about it during a presentation.
Making up bullshit answers to any question you can think of isn't going to be hard if he keeps his cool.
This is why confronting the kid first is also stupid.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 06:19:02 PM
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 06:19:02 PM
Quote from: Norton I;1306404Blackmail him for sexual favors.
Nevermind what I said, do this
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: FileCabinetClock on May 10, 2008, 06:19:06 PM
Post by: FileCabinetClock on May 10, 2008, 06:19:06 PM
Quote from: ɹoɥʇ;1306463Would you not call the cops if somebody robbed your house because it could "ruin their life" if they got caught?
great job
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Arctic on May 10, 2008, 06:23:39 PM
Post by: Arctic on May 10, 2008, 06:23:39 PM
Go through extra lengths to work near him at the start of his next project and find out the illustration he's doing. Then find that illustration, trace it and add like two or three things to it and don't show anyone it until the day you crit.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: OcarinaClock on May 10, 2008, 06:24:44 PM
Post by: OcarinaClock on May 10, 2008, 06:24:44 PM
Just warn him. If he keeps it up, crucify him. Make an idiot of him in front of the whole class. When he shows his artwork you can be like "Hey, that looks a lot like (Insert Artists name here) drawing. It almost looks exactly like it". His face will go red in seconds.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 06:35:26 PM
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 06:35:26 PM
Quote from: China Clock;1306249Claiming credit for a work you did not do and at the same time surpassing others with this stolen work is not trivial.
First of, this will greatly boost his grades and give him an unfair advantage over others in a market that is rather slim as-is. Thus causing someone more deserving to be out of a job.
Secondly, as stated before, this is something that will turn into a huge deal when he actually moves on. Either in the form of incompetence or continued plagiarism. In either case, what the fuck is he doing on that workforce?
Lastly, he obviously doesn't care about the fact that plagiarism is wrong, he doesn't have much of a moral highground to stand on to complain about being snitched on.
Just get his ass thrown out. Stop feeling sorry for people who don't deserve it.
Snitching is still mean, mister :mad:
Don't do it, FU. We've all stolen a little bit in our life you can turn a blind eye to this. No one will care.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Lump Clock on May 10, 2008, 06:38:46 PM
Post by: Lump Clock on May 10, 2008, 06:38:46 PM
Ultimate Damnation. Bring the hammer down and crush his hopes of taking the high road!
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: WreckingBallClock on May 10, 2008, 06:46:30 PM
Post by: WreckingBallClock on May 10, 2008, 06:46:30 PM
Quote from: FloppyDiskClock;1306456Ask him bullshit about it during a presentation.Good...
Quote from: Quill;1306215I say just fuck with him. Just little things like if he gets up and walks away open a text and leave him a message like "I know" or "Cheater"Better...
Fucking with people is more fun than getting him expelled.
Quote from: Norton I;1306404Blackmail him for sexual favors.BINGO!
Quote from: Hideous Whore;1306473Just warn him. If he keeps it up, crucify him. Make an idiot of him in front of the whole class. When he shows his artwork you can be like "Hey, that looks a lot like (Insert Artists name here) drawing. It almost looks exactly like it". His face will go red in seconds.I think that Quill and Ocarina should splice these ideas together.
You should send him little "things" to tell him you know. Psych him out. Like e-mails from IknowEverything@gmail.com (IknowEverything@gmail.com) and then get you and a couple of friends from that class to start talking to him about deviantArt. You should all say things like "Hey! Have you ever seen deviantArt? You should go there. You seem like your work would... fit right in." and "That picture looks even better than some of (insert the true artist's name of recent picture) stuff." All sorts of shit just to fuck with him. Then, you should see if you can get him to copy some of YOUR work. Then, prepare that smae piece, and showcase yours right after him. "Uhh, yeah. I actually had a very similar piece..." You can prove its yours by logging into your deivantArt. But go with that first part for a while. Bonus points if the guy doesn't know your friends that are helping you.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: HeinekenClock on May 10, 2008, 06:50:19 PM
Post by: HeinekenClock on May 10, 2008, 06:50:19 PM
In ten years he might be doing better in business than you are, stealing your customers if you don't take him down now while he's still vulnerable!
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 07:00:58 PM
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 07:00:58 PM
Quote from: ChickenClock;1306482Snitching is still mean, mister :mad:
Don't do it, FU. We've all stolen a little bit in our life you can turn a blind eye to this. No one will care.
Mean? Who gives a shit, it's the right thing to do.
Stealing isn't the same as plagiarism, and the only reason no one will care is because nobody knows. They all think he's fan-fucking-tastic.
Quote from: billiardball10;1306402warn him.
ps.im seriously, surprised clock crew. you mean, to expel this kid, and deny him of every future
Warning someone simply doesn't work if they're the cruising-along type of person, trust me on this. I have sufficient personal experience of that shit.
And since when was getting somebody their _deserved_ grade a wrong thing to do? We're not actually advocating expulsion, we're advocating him not passing a course he didn't make his own work for.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 07:02:10 PM
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 07:02:10 PM
Quote from: China Clock;1306527Mean? Who gives a shit, it's the right thing to do.
Stealing isn't the same as plagiarism, and the only reason no one will care is because nobody knows. They all think he's fan-fucking-tastic.
No you're mean, sorry.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 07:06:38 PM
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 07:06:38 PM
Quote from: ChickenClock;1306530No you're mean, sorry.
hey chinaman, your post quoting this should atleast be 9 paragraphs long
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 07:07:02 PM
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 07:07:02 PM
Quote from: ChickenClock;1306530No you're mean, sorry.
I still don't care about your outdated opinion. There's no reason he should be sticking up for that guy.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 07:11:40 PM
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 07:11:40 PM
im gay
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: DigitalLemonClock on May 10, 2008, 07:15:02 PM
Post by: DigitalLemonClock on May 10, 2008, 07:15:02 PM
Quote from: ChickenClock;1306546im gay
your existence reminds of the comedy the humand life has to offer
we will all miss you forever
byeyyebyyeybyeybyyyeyby
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 07:16:42 PM
Post by: ChickenClock on May 10, 2008, 07:16:42 PM
Quote from: DigitalLemonClock;1306549your existence reminds of the comedy the humand life has to offer
we will all miss you forever
byeyyebyyeybyeybyyyeyby
where are we going?
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: WiiClock on May 10, 2008, 07:17:48 PM
Post by: WiiClock on May 10, 2008, 07:17:48 PM
I would tell him I knew what he was doing and he needs to start doing his own work.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: BilliardBall10 on May 10, 2008, 07:35:15 PM
Post by: BilliardBall10 on May 10, 2008, 07:35:15 PM
i just say warn him, who knows, he might do hsi own work, and be better than what he tarced, back at the times
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Il Duce on May 10, 2008, 07:39:36 PM
Post by: Il Duce on May 10, 2008, 07:39:36 PM
Drop the bomb VIA anonymous email to teacher. For fuck's sake, he doesn't deserve the mark for something he didn't make. If you tell him that you know he did it, he'll just cover his tracks better the next time he steals something. Just because it could 'really fuck up his life' doesn't make it okay to do nothing about it.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: TequilaClock on May 10, 2008, 07:40:33 PM
Post by: TequilaClock on May 10, 2008, 07:40:33 PM
Tell him he is going to be like Eric Bauman and Randy Solem
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Il Duce on May 10, 2008, 07:43:38 PM
Post by: Il Duce on May 10, 2008, 07:43:38 PM
Quote from: Tony Stark;1306619Tell him he is going to be like Eric Bauman and Randy Solem
Wait, Randy steals?
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: TequilaClock on May 10, 2008, 07:49:06 PM
Post by: TequilaClock on May 10, 2008, 07:49:06 PM
Quote from: Goggles;1306635Wait, Randy steals?He stole lots of ideas from the flash forums he used to have. Ernie is not even by him.
And not to mention he hasnt ever invented a character.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: WreckingBallClock on May 10, 2008, 07:51:17 PM
Post by: WreckingBallClock on May 10, 2008, 07:51:17 PM
Did anyone see my post?
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: DigitalLemonClock on May 10, 2008, 07:52:23 PM
Post by: DigitalLemonClock on May 10, 2008, 07:52:23 PM
Quote from: WreckingBall;1306661Did anyone see my post?
here he is
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: HeinekenClock on May 10, 2008, 07:53:25 PM
Post by: HeinekenClock on May 10, 2008, 07:53:25 PM
The thing I hate most about that randy solem is that ernie character.
The entire ernie character is stolen from what's eating gilbert grape and not only does he only use 1 voice clip for the retard, he uses the loudest and most obnoxious one.
The entire ernie character is stolen from what's eating gilbert grape and not only does he only use 1 voice clip for the retard, he uses the loudest and most obnoxious one.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: SpinningCubeClock on May 10, 2008, 07:54:32 PM
Post by: SpinningCubeClock on May 10, 2008, 07:54:32 PM
cut his throat now.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: WreckingBallClock on May 10, 2008, 07:56:17 PM
Post by: WreckingBallClock on May 10, 2008, 07:56:17 PM
Quote from: DigitalLemonClock;1306666here he is
no, my first post on page 5
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: DigitalLemonClock on May 10, 2008, 07:57:07 PM
Post by: DigitalLemonClock on May 10, 2008, 07:57:07 PM
Quote from: WreckingBall;1306679no, my first post on page 5
here he
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: DigitalLemonClock on May 10, 2008, 07:57:12 PM
Post by: DigitalLemonClock on May 10, 2008, 07:57:12 PM
is is
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 08:43:36 PM
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 08:43:36 PM
Hmmm... Well I think I might send an anonymous e-mail to my graphics teacher. This may bring the best of both worlds.
I don't want to tell him, because he'll probably just get sneakier about stealing shit. The only way I found the images I did was because I saw their filenames which he I'm a edgy teenly kept the same when he downloaded them. He also seems good at BSing.
Also, I'll tell my graphics teacher because I think she loves him and she'll probably bury the issue from other teacher, but punish him a decent bit (without expelling him) and stop acting like he's the God of graphic art. And just to clarify, he's not just tracing things, he's also outright stealing. This exact image (http://www.pauloarraiano.com/images/illustration_commercial/chupachups_02.gif) was in his final portfolio for illustration, taken from this artist's site: http://www.pauloarraiano.com/ Fuckin' BS.
And yes, I WILL TAKE HIM DOOOWN!
I don't want to tell him, because he'll probably just get sneakier about stealing shit. The only way I found the images I did was because I saw their filenames which he I'm a edgy teenly kept the same when he downloaded them. He also seems good at BSing.
Also, I'll tell my graphics teacher because I think she loves him and she'll probably bury the issue from other teacher, but punish him a decent bit (without expelling him) and stop acting like he's the God of graphic art. And just to clarify, he's not just tracing things, he's also outright stealing. This exact image (http://www.pauloarraiano.com/images/illustration_commercial/chupachups_02.gif) was in his final portfolio for illustration, taken from this artist's site: http://www.pauloarraiano.com/ Fuckin' BS.
And yes, I WILL TAKE HIM DOOOWN!
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: SpinningCubeClock on May 10, 2008, 08:57:17 PM
Post by: SpinningCubeClock on May 10, 2008, 08:57:17 PM
What a cunt. Just talk to him about it I reckon. If he keeps doing it, sell his ass off.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 08:57:42 PM
Post by: China Clock on May 10, 2008, 08:57:42 PM
Quote from: F U Clock;1306729And yes, I WILL TAKE HIM DOOOWN!
Woohoo! Victory for the good guys.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 08:58:28 PM
Post by: F U Clock on May 10, 2008, 08:58:28 PM
I would edit a picture of me punching that pic. I posted of him, but I don't have a good Photoshop on this comp. and I'm about to leave. Anyone else wanna' do it?
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: AirPumpClock on May 10, 2008, 09:17:35 PM
Post by: AirPumpClock on May 10, 2008, 09:17:35 PM
Warn him that you've caught on to him, but don't turn him in for it. But let him know that that won't get him anywhere in graphic design.
EDIT: Never mind. I wouldn't know what to do. However, if you let him just keep doing it, there's two good things that may come from it:
1. He may be just having personal issues and may need to find an easy way to get by. Perhaps he may be a good graphics designer, just not up to the task of actually being one at that moment. I've had those moments, particularly when deadlines draw near.
2. If he seriously wants to get by that way as he continues on, he won't get very far in the real graphic design world. If he doesn't have the skills/natural ability, he won't be able to compet with the rest.
EDIT: Never mind. I wouldn't know what to do. However, if you let him just keep doing it, there's two good things that may come from it:
1. He may be just having personal issues and may need to find an easy way to get by. Perhaps he may be a good graphics designer, just not up to the task of actually being one at that moment. I've had those moments, particularly when deadlines draw near.
2. If he seriously wants to get by that way as he continues on, he won't get very far in the real graphic design world. If he doesn't have the skills/natural ability, he won't be able to compet with the rest.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: miracle fruit on May 10, 2008, 09:29:18 PM
Post by: miracle fruit on May 10, 2008, 09:29:18 PM
Quote from: SecretAgentClock;1306145It's not against the rules if you don't get caught.
Too bad for him, he got caught. Expel the faggot.
beautifully said secret agent clock
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: BilliardBall10 on May 10, 2008, 09:31:34 PM
Post by: BilliardBall10 on May 10, 2008, 09:31:34 PM
Quote from: AirPumpClock;1306760Warn him that you've caught on to him, but don't turn him in for it. But let him know that that won't get him anywhere in graphic design.
EDIT: Never mind. I wouldn't know what to do. However, if you let him just keep doing it, there's two good things that may come from it:
1. He may be just having personal issues and may need to find an easy way to get by. Perhaps he may be a good graphics designer, just not up to the task of actually being one at that moment. I've had those moments, particularly when deadlines draw near.
2. If he seriously wants to get by that way as he continues on, he won't get very far in the real graphic design world. If he doesn't have the skills/natural ability, he won't be able to compet with the rest.
and this is what amkes me say ''dont give him up''. he may be a kick ass artist.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: AirPumpClock on May 10, 2008, 09:35:58 PM
Post by: AirPumpClock on May 10, 2008, 09:35:58 PM
Quote from: billiardball10;1306779and this is what amkes me say ''dont give him up''. he may be a kick ass artist.
Yes. I'd say, make sure he doesn't do this consistently. And if he does, he's only screwing himself, unless you can convince him to not screw himself over.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Il Duce on May 10, 2008, 09:40:34 PM
Post by: Il Duce on May 10, 2008, 09:40:34 PM
Quote from: billiardball10;1306779and this is what amkes me say ''dont give him up''. he may be a kick ass artist.
How the hell does letting him get off with stealing graphics help him develop as a graphic artist? If anything, it tells him that he can get away with shit like that and that he doesn't have to do his own work. If he gets caught, he'll think "Damn, I have to get my shit together and start doing my own work."
I don't think he'll get expelled for this. I doubt teacher is going to instantly lose all faith in him and send him away. She'll give him some lenience, especially if she thinks he has talent.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: miracle fruit on May 10, 2008, 09:42:54 PM
Post by: miracle fruit on May 10, 2008, 09:42:54 PM
dont feel remorse for ruining his life i mean what the fuck is he gonna do if he gets a job as a graphic designer anyway? his boss is gonna want specifics and he cant do it because he just steals shit
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: miracle fruit on May 10, 2008, 09:43:00 PM
Post by: miracle fruit on May 10, 2008, 09:43:00 PM
can his ass
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 09:44:37 PM
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 09:44:37 PM
miraclefruit makes a pretty good point
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Topcatyo on May 10, 2008, 10:06:53 PM
Post by: Topcatyo on May 10, 2008, 10:06:53 PM
Quote from: F U Clock;1306729Hmmm... Well I think I might send an anonymous e-mail to my graphics teacher. This may bring the best of both worlds.Sounds good. Be sure to include concrete undeniable proof he stole the stuff.
I don't want to tell him, because he'll probably just get sneakier about stealing shit. The only way I found the images I did was because I saw their filenames which he I'm a edgy teenly kept the same when he downloaded them. He also seems good at BSing.
Also, I'll tell my graphics teacher because I think she loves him and she'll probably bury the issue from other teacher, but punish him a decent bit (without expelling him) and stop acting like he's the God of graphic art. And just to clarify, he's not just tracing things, he's also outright stealing. This exact image (http://www.pauloarraiano.com/images/illustration_commercial/chupachups_02.gif) was in his final portfolio for illustration, taken from this artist's site: http://www.pauloarraiano.com/ Fuckin' BS.
And yes, I WILL TAKE HIM DOOOWN!
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Joey 57857 on May 10, 2008, 10:13:39 PM
Post by: Joey 57857 on May 10, 2008, 10:13:39 PM
Here is what you should do exactly give him a fair warning to stop what he is doing and do the shit himself or you will rat on him. If he continues then tell on him and he deserves to be ruined. :tophat:
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 10:15:56 PM
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 10:15:56 PM
wreckingball is the most important person on the face of the earth
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Thor on May 10, 2008, 10:27:31 PM
Post by: Thor on May 10, 2008, 10:27:31 PM
Half of this thread:
Man that guys a douche turn him in
other half:
hey I do the same thing as him I better defend him
Man that guys a douche turn him in
other half:
hey I do the same thing as him I better defend him
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 10:50:24 PM
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 10:50:24 PM
Quote from: ɹoɥʇ;1306829Half of this thread:
Man that guys a douche turn him in
other half:
hey I do the same thing as him I better defend him
you are SO RIGHT
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: AirPumpClock on May 10, 2008, 10:55:23 PM
Post by: AirPumpClock on May 10, 2008, 10:55:23 PM
Quote from: ɹoɥʇ;1306829other half:
hey I do the same thing as him I better defend him
I do cheat my way around things and make half-assed Flash animations to get really good non computer related grades, but I don't usually plagiarize. However, particularly for subjects I don't care about, I tend to like to find the easy way out.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 10:56:03 PM
Post by: LuxenbergClock on May 10, 2008, 10:56:03 PM
Quote from: AirPumpClock;1306841I do cheat my way around things and make half-assed Flash animations to get really good non computer related grades, but I don't usually plagiarize. However, particularly for subjects I don't care about, I tend to like to find the easy way out.
and you're in high school
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: buttplug on May 10, 2008, 11:51:53 PM
Post by: buttplug on May 10, 2008, 11:51:53 PM
I was going to say don't get him expelled, but then again I would never do that so go ahead and tell the professor I guess.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: SeedClock on May 11, 2008, 12:08:34 AM
Post by: SeedClock on May 11, 2008, 12:08:34 AM
i think he'll pay the price when he has an actual job and is trying to pull that shit off
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: SeedClock on May 11, 2008, 12:10:36 AM
Post by: SeedClock on May 11, 2008, 12:10:36 AM
I have a B in art because i dont show up and now i have to work my way up to the truly easy A that it is
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: patriotclock on May 11, 2008, 12:32:58 AM
Post by: patriotclock on May 11, 2008, 12:32:58 AM
Rat him out it will be funny but do it secret so you don't look like a faggot.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: DillClock on May 11, 2008, 12:51:32 AM
Post by: DillClock on May 11, 2008, 12:51:32 AM
i am so looking forward to the outcome of this
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: AMPEEEM on May 11, 2008, 12:57:54 AM
Post by: AMPEEEM on May 11, 2008, 12:57:54 AM
Quote from: F U Clock;1306114Dude it's fucking bullshit. You should see the praise this kid gets for shit that he stole. On the last day of class my graphics teacher is talking to the class looking at a stolen piece of his saying, "You could leave College right now and go into graphic design, you're that good." I was so pissed...
He'll get his.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: buttplug on May 11, 2008, 01:15:13 AM
Post by: buttplug on May 11, 2008, 01:15:13 AM
Quote from: ampm;1306936He'll get his.
Ok yeah I didn't see that part of the thread.
Crush the asshole FU.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: AMPEEEM on May 11, 2008, 01:54:07 AM
Post by: AMPEEEM on May 11, 2008, 01:54:07 AM
Also he isn't even that good at placing shit, his work is so cluttered.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Pinstripe on May 11, 2008, 02:13:42 AM
Post by: Pinstripe on May 11, 2008, 02:13:42 AM
(here is supposed to be a witty remark regarding plagarism)
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: FileCabinetClock on May 11, 2008, 02:44:42 AM
Post by: FileCabinetClock on May 11, 2008, 02:44:42 AM
Quote from: SeedClock;1306897i think he'll pay the price when he has an actual job and is trying to pull that shit off
thats actually hilarious to think about
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2008, 03:36:15 AM
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2008, 03:36:15 AM
So does his "art style" change every 5 minutes to his bitch of a graphics teacher?
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: SeedClock on May 11, 2008, 03:58:11 AM
Post by: SeedClock on May 11, 2008, 03:58:11 AM
Quote from: Steve;1306990So does his "art style" change every 5 minutes to his bitch of a graphics teacher?
hey, some people really do have talent in all fields
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Kidney BeanClock on May 11, 2008, 07:54:32 AM
Post by: Kidney BeanClock on May 11, 2008, 07:54:32 AM
Just tell other people in the class about it and eventually someone will end his reign of terror.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: RabidClock on May 11, 2008, 08:36:15 AM
Post by: RabidClock on May 11, 2008, 08:36:15 AM
DESTROY HIS LIFE AND KILL HIS FAMILY
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Teapot on May 11, 2008, 08:38:11 AM
Post by: Teapot on May 11, 2008, 08:38:11 AM
Quote from: Animal Mother;1307160DESTROY HIS LIFE AND KILL HIS FAMILYP.S. Blackmail
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: OvenmittClock on May 11, 2008, 09:26:37 AM
Post by: OvenmittClock on May 11, 2008, 09:26:37 AM
fucking blackmail his ass
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: CeleriacClock on May 11, 2008, 09:34:05 AM
Post by: CeleriacClock on May 11, 2008, 09:34:05 AM
Speak to him, he isn't learning anything by doing it so he should get found out sometime.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Teapot on May 11, 2008, 01:16:54 PM
Post by: Teapot on May 11, 2008, 01:16:54 PM
Quote from: CeleriacClock;1307190Speak to him, he isn't learning anything by doing it so he should get found out sometime.Why speak to him?
1. Blackmail him
2. Get sexual favors
3. Get money
4. release it anyway and ruin his cheating efforts along with his future.
5. ???
6. Profit!
Sorry, I just had to. Seriously though, DO IT DO IT DO IT!
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Slash on May 11, 2008, 01:24:36 PM
Post by: Slash on May 11, 2008, 01:24:36 PM
Hey, you want people like that doing jobs for you, but making shitty results, simply because they haven't studied right?
Give him the justice he deserves.
Give him the justice he deserves.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Teapot on May 11, 2008, 01:27:19 PM
Post by: Teapot on May 11, 2008, 01:27:19 PM
Quote from: Reisen;1307348Hey, you want people like that doing jobs for you, but making shitty results, simply because they haven't studied right?and a free icecream cone. =D
Give him the justice he deserves.
No seriously, blackmail him and ruin his social life before any "justice" comes at hand.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Asshatclock on May 11, 2008, 01:45:14 PM
Post by: Asshatclock on May 11, 2008, 01:45:14 PM
Steal the exact same image and trace it, then submit it before he does.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Teapot on May 11, 2008, 01:48:08 PM
Post by: Teapot on May 11, 2008, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: ASSHAT_CLOCK;1307364Steal the exact same image and trace it, then submit it before he does.Well then the other guy could just doodle some other shit and then say that HE was taking the art. That would get him in trouble.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Asshatclock on May 11, 2008, 01:50:09 PM
Post by: Asshatclock on May 11, 2008, 01:50:09 PM
Quote from: Teapot;1307367Well then the other guy could just doodle some other shit and then say that HE was taking the art. That would get him in trouble.
Don't ruin my idea, my plan is solid I tell you.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Teapot on May 11, 2008, 02:05:28 PM
Post by: Teapot on May 11, 2008, 02:05:28 PM
Quote from: ASSHAT_CLOCK;1307371Don't ruin my idea, my plan is solid I tell you.Fuck you too Fernando!
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Topcatyo on May 11, 2008, 04:01:33 PM
Post by: Topcatyo on May 11, 2008, 04:01:33 PM
Find out what Fernando is stealing next.
Then show the teacher before he hands it in without Fernando knowing, going to the actual artist's website, and tell her how cool it is.
Then, when Fernandoooooooo hands it in, she'll be all "Wait what?"
Then show the teacher before he hands it in without Fernando knowing, going to the actual artist's website, and tell her how cool it is.
Then, when Fernandoooooooo hands it in, she'll be all "Wait what?"
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: LuigiClock on May 11, 2008, 04:09:02 PM
Post by: LuigiClock on May 11, 2008, 04:09:02 PM
spare the rod, use the fucking sledgehammer
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: LuigiClock on May 11, 2008, 04:09:53 PM
Post by: LuigiClock on May 11, 2008, 04:09:53 PM
also an Idea would be to make a project about the stolen work of fernando
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Bigglesnoots on May 11, 2008, 04:59:23 PM
Post by: Bigglesnoots on May 11, 2008, 04:59:23 PM
god just send the teacher an anonymus email.
fucking hell
fucking hell
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Teapot on May 11, 2008, 11:06:45 PM
Post by: Teapot on May 11, 2008, 11:06:45 PM
Quote from: ⊲UpdateClock⊳;1307511god just send the teacher an anonymus email.Fuck that, that's too typical. We want to ruin his future.
fucking hell
Edit: and be funny while doing it
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Thor on May 12, 2008, 12:05:51 AM
Post by: Thor on May 12, 2008, 12:05:51 AM
Quote from: Teapot;1307972Fuck that, that's too typical. We want to ruin his future.
Edit: and be funny while doing it
you're trying too hard
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Teapot on May 12, 2008, 12:12:26 AM
Post by: Teapot on May 12, 2008, 12:12:26 AM
Quote from: ɹoɥʇ;1308016you're trying too hardbecause it makes me hard.
Still, just blackmail him or something.
Then again, an anonymous email would work if you're boring.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: RomanClock on May 12, 2008, 12:17:41 AM
Post by: RomanClock on May 12, 2008, 12:17:41 AM
Don't blackmail or else you'll just blow yourself up.
Literally.
Literally.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Teapot on May 12, 2008, 12:22:15 AM
Post by: Teapot on May 12, 2008, 12:22:15 AM
Quote from: RomanClock;1308025Don't blackmail or else you'll just blow yourself up.He can still just do something to him right? To make him paranoid first. Then just announce it to people. =D Or just announce it to people. That's fine.
Literally.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: BinaryClock on May 12, 2008, 12:34:39 AM
Post by: BinaryClock on May 12, 2008, 12:34:39 AM
People who blackmail people end up dying. That is one of the few things I learned from detective dramas.
Blackmail. Never really a good idea.
Blackmail. Never really a good idea.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Teapot on May 12, 2008, 12:39:03 AM
Post by: Teapot on May 12, 2008, 12:39:03 AM
Quote from: BinaryClock;1308032People who blackmail people end up dying. That is one of the few things I learned from detective dramas.
Blackmail. Never really a good idea.
Detective dramas.. Wow. Still, atleast do cool stuff with it. =[
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: ToadClock on May 12, 2008, 01:32:43 AM
Post by: ToadClock on May 12, 2008, 01:32:43 AM
Quote from: Scmedic;1307469Find out what Fernando is stealing next.
Then show the teacher before he hands it in without Fernando knowing, going to the actual artist's website, and tell her how cool it is.
Then, when Fernandoooooooo hands it in, she'll be all "Wait what?"
If you could somehow find out what he was going to steal, this would be the best idea. Public humiliation that he reaps upon himself.
Then have a folder prepare with samples and evidence to present to the teacher immediately after class to add a big "." to this fine day.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: iPodClock on May 12, 2008, 01:54:44 AM
Post by: iPodClock on May 12, 2008, 01:54:44 AM
Just keep it simple and tell the teacher that you've seen him copying, and she/he should have a word with him.
The longer you leave it the worse it'll be because he wont be able to resubmit any of the work.
The longer you leave it the worse it'll be because he wont be able to resubmit any of the work.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Teapot on May 12, 2008, 02:02:45 AM
Post by: Teapot on May 12, 2008, 02:02:45 AM
Quote from: ToadClock;1308054If you could somehow find out what he was going to steal, this would be the best idea. Public humiliation that he reaps upon himself.Ooh I like this one.
Then have a folder prepare with samples and evidence to present to the teacher immediately after class to add a big "." to this fine day.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: RabidClock on May 12, 2008, 03:02:16 AM
Post by: RabidClock on May 12, 2008, 03:02:16 AM
Quote from: Misanthrope Antelope;1306226Deaf girls are mean :(I fucked a deaf chick once, it was horrible. I had to turn up the radio really loud so I couldn't hear her moaning :(
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: satan will destroy you on May 12, 2008, 03:44:10 AM
Post by: satan will destroy you on May 12, 2008, 03:44:10 AM
murder him
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Teapot on May 12, 2008, 07:40:52 AM
Post by: Teapot on May 12, 2008, 07:40:52 AM
Okay now I'm beginning to question. If he gets past college and becomes a big timer and gets busted, he's fucked up for good. So let's not do anything except fuck with his head dude.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: CrustClock on May 12, 2008, 11:42:49 AM
Post by: CrustClock on May 12, 2008, 11:42:49 AM
Quote from: Flux;1306171If someone downloaded your flashes off NG and started passing them off as his own, would you want us to stay out of it instead of defending the fact that they're yours?I would be flattered.
It wouldn't concern me at all really, no.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Bigglesnoots on May 12, 2008, 11:45:34 AM
Post by: Bigglesnoots on May 12, 2008, 11:45:34 AM
Quote from: CrustClock;1308353I would be flattered.Bullshit.
It wouldn't concern me at all really, no.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: AstronautClock on May 12, 2008, 11:50:00 AM
Post by: AstronautClock on May 12, 2008, 11:50:00 AM
I would whisper in his ear. *I know your secret tracer boy, and I'm watching your every move*
and then go eat lunch
and then go eat lunch
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: ChocolateCoffin on May 12, 2008, 12:13:03 PM
Post by: ChocolateCoffin on May 12, 2008, 12:13:03 PM
Quote from: CrustClock;1308353I would be flattered.
It wouldn't concern me at all really, no.
well don't worry, it ain't gonna happen boi !! ooooooooooooo
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: PolyhedronClock on May 12, 2008, 12:24:34 PM
Post by: PolyhedronClock on May 12, 2008, 12:24:34 PM
Stay out of it, it's not really any of your business. I myself couldn't live with that moral shadow the rest of my life, even if it's the right thing. He messed up once, it's no reason to ruin his life.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Slash on May 12, 2008, 12:31:06 PM
Post by: Slash on May 12, 2008, 12:31:06 PM
Quote from: The Spout;1308365He messed up once, it's no reason to ruin his life.
QuoteWell since then I've found the damned thing on somebody else's Deviantart, as well as two other Illustrations he stole from another artists.It would seem that he did it more than once.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Bigglesnoots on May 12, 2008, 12:35:12 PM
Post by: Bigglesnoots on May 12, 2008, 12:35:12 PM
he could be ruining those other lives too.
just send the email already
just send the email already
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: PolyhedronClock on May 12, 2008, 12:41:42 PM
Post by: PolyhedronClock on May 12, 2008, 12:41:42 PM
Quote from: Reisen;1308366It would seem that he did it more than once.
Oh damn, must have missed that part. Yeah, the dilema's much more clear now. Still though, a typed note telling the kid to stop stealing should shake him up a bit to stop.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Bigglesnoots on May 12, 2008, 12:43:38 PM
Post by: Bigglesnoots on May 12, 2008, 12:43:38 PM
hey here's an idea. contact the people he stole from and let them fight it out.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Slash on May 12, 2008, 12:50:59 PM
Post by: Slash on May 12, 2008, 12:50:59 PM
Quote from: The Spout;1308368, a typed note telling the kid to stop stealing should shake him up a bit to stop.
I thought of that too, but it's quite likely that he'll just find other resources.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: CrustClock on May 12, 2008, 01:14:48 PM
Post by: CrustClock on May 12, 2008, 01:14:48 PM
Quote from: ⊲UpdateClock⊳;1308355Bullshit.If he was in my class I would point it out, of course, I thought we were talking about the guy in FU's. edit: geez, I'm an idiot. I would mind if someone put my stuff on Newgrounds again, yeah, but I don't think it's comparable to this: in this situation the artist this student is ripping off doesn't even know about it, and never will. It would only be comparable if this student was stealing FU's artwork.
I think people are overreacting, cheats never prosper and if he gets a good grade then so what? He will either be a success of his own merit or, more likely, will fail because he's no good. Ratting him out to the teacher is just a jerky thing to do, there's no victim except himself. It's not your moral obligation to get involved in something like this.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: BreadfruitClock on May 12, 2008, 02:27:40 PM
Post by: BreadfruitClock on May 12, 2008, 02:27:40 PM
crust you suck jeez
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: CrustClock on May 12, 2008, 04:58:55 PM
Post by: CrustClock on May 12, 2008, 04:58:55 PM
Quote from: Scout;1308409crust you suck jeezyou suck jizz
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Mashed Potato Johnson on May 12, 2008, 05:34:20 PM
Post by: Mashed Potato Johnson on May 12, 2008, 05:34:20 PM
Quote from: CrustClock;1308383I think people are overreacting, cheats never prosper and if he gets a good grade then so what? He will either be a success of his own merit or, more likely, will fail because he's no good. Ratting him out to the teacher is just a jerky thing to do, there's no victim except himself. It's not your moral obligation to get involved in something like this.
this
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: salmonberryclock on May 12, 2008, 06:13:49 PM
Post by: salmonberryclock on May 12, 2008, 06:13:49 PM
Quote from: ScareCrow;1306122Send an anonymous letter/e-mail to the teacher with links and proof?
this
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Il Duce on May 12, 2008, 06:14:03 PM
Post by: Il Duce on May 12, 2008, 06:14:03 PM
Quote from: CrustClock;1308383If he was in my class I would point it out, of course, I thought we were talking about the guy in FU's. edit: geez, I'm an idiot. I would mind if someone put my stuff on Newgrounds again, yeah, but I don't think it's comparable to this: in this situation the artist this student is ripping off doesn't even know about it, and never will. It would only be comparable if this student was stealing FU's artwork.
I think people are overreacting, cheats never prosper and if he gets a good grade then so what? He will either be a success of his own merit or, more likely, will fail because he's no good. Ratting him out to the teacher is just a jerky thing to do, there's no victim except himself. It's not your moral obligation to get involved in something like this.
Saying that the artist will never find out is bullshit, because any one of us could tell him at any point. If he gets a good grade, that just tells him that what he's doing is okay, and that he can keep doing it all he wants. He's going to keep stealing work if he doesn't learn that it's wrong.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: CrustClock on May 12, 2008, 06:34:08 PM
Post by: CrustClock on May 12, 2008, 06:34:08 PM
he can't steal people's work forever, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Sgt.Pepper on May 12, 2008, 06:53:11 PM
Post by: Sgt.Pepper on May 12, 2008, 06:53:11 PM
Quote from: F U Clock;1306108Alright, so there's a dude in my graphic design and illustration class named Fernandooo. Anyways, he's really good with Adobe Illustrator and comes up with all this cool shit. I first noticed the oddities when he was showing an assignment to my teacher. I noticed it was pixelated when he zoomed in, and since it's a vector program that's... odd, unless he was putting it online for some reason. Also, it was named Blablabla_by_Blablabla, the second being a person's online name that was not his. Also, it was saved in his Research folder on his flash drive.
Alright alright, flash forward, and skip a few weird things, I see him open up a thing from his Flash drive, and start to trace it in Illustrator. The next day, he turns in almost the same fucking image as the one he was tracing for the assignment. Not only that, he opens the original and claims he made that too. Well since then I've found the damned thing on somebody else's Deviantart, as well as two other Illustrations he stole from another artists. What should I do about this? I don't really want to talk to him about it, because there'd be no easy way to say that I've been covering your tracks and you're a fucking thief. But also if I tell my teachers he will be expelled from College, and it may ruin his whole life. What the fuck.
Tell that bitch to get out,that'll show him fot stealing other people good/bad work.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: F U Clock on May 12, 2008, 08:23:40 PM
Post by: F U Clock on May 12, 2008, 08:23:40 PM
I actually like the idea of alerting the artist and giving him either Fernando's e-mail or my teacher's. I have no like, pictures of his work, but I could let him know, then it'd be up to him.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: Teapot on May 12, 2008, 10:11:40 PM
Post by: Teapot on May 12, 2008, 10:11:40 PM
Quote from: F U Clock;1308646I actually like the idea of alerting the artist and giving him either Fernando's e-mail or my teacher's. I have no like, pictures of his work, but I could let him know, then it'd be up to him.
Do you know the other people's Deviant accounts though? Since she's so proud of her student, show him the punishment he gets in college for stealing it. Just send her an anonymous email of the links. If she's so proud thinking it's his work, she'll recognize it and he'll get the punishment.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: F U Clock on May 12, 2008, 10:26:24 PM
Post by: F U Clock on May 12, 2008, 10:26:24 PM
Quote from: Teapot;1308795Do you know the other people's Deviant accounts though? Since she's so proud of her student, show him the punishment he gets in college for stealing it. Just send her an anonymous email of the links. If she's so proud thinking it's his work, she'll recognize it and he'll get the punishment.
Yeah I know I'm just saying I don't necessarily want to be the one who has to deal with the moral issue of contacting the teacher, so I could just let the artist who made the work decide what to do. Then again, it'd still be me contacting the artist, so I should just cut out the middle man and tell her myself. But whoever said I had to behave rationally.
Title: Should I expel this kid?
Post by: OvenmittClock on May 12, 2008, 10:27:57 PM
Post by: OvenmittClock on May 12, 2008, 10:27:57 PM
B TO THE L BLACKMAIL HIS ASS!