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Well, it kicked a lot of ass, in my opinion.

If I knew how to do the spoiler hider black bar tag thing I'd go more in depth as too just how many times I went "OOOOH" and why during this film but I dont

Quote from: ampm;1366294Well, it kicked a lot of ass, in my opinion.

If I knew how to do the spoiler hider black bar tag thing I'd go more in depth as too just how many times I went "OOOOH" and why during this film but I dont

I think it's like this. "spoiler" "/spoiler" with [ replacing "

Also there are way too many awesome parts to remember.

"The fall from this height won't kill me." "I'm counting on it."

"Ah, the old good cop bad cop routine?" "Not exactly."

Nurse Joker.

The Rachel/Harvey countdown

"He missed!"

And on and on...

I haven't seen it yet.

Coming in to this thread twice before this monday. Once to post this question, once to read the answer.

Are there any noteable villains in it besides TwoFace, The Scarecrow, and the Joker?

Only a simple YES or NO for me please, keep any in-depth detail in your answer wrapped in spoiler tags.

Nice.

To answer your question Flux, NO

So this whole movie was really crazy. Batman was constantly having to make serious choices, between revealing who he was so that the Joker would stop killing people, or keep on fighting as Batman until Joker was stopped.

Speaking of The Joker, you wont see a better performance for a comic villain anywhere, I don't think. Even with all the hype, he was great to watch.

Fuck man I just spent the last 50 minutes running through that movie again and now I'm just at a loss for words. Even with these spoiler tags, I just don't want to say anything.

Was it the best I've seen? God no, but it was entertaining, very entertaining. For that, I loof it.

Sorry for not busting out anything interesting

Quote from: Flux;1366312Only a simple YES or NO for me please, keep any in-depth detail in your answer wrapped in spoiler tags.

I'll put spoiler tags anyway, in case others don't want to know:

Nein.

I heard batman throws a dog out a window

confirm/deny?

Quote from: SLURPEE;1366320I heard batman throws a dog out a window

confirm/deny?

He sure does

seein this

I like this Joker, much more believable.

Why did he keep changing the story on how he got the scars?

Quote from: Moose Clock;1366342Why did he keep changing the story on how he got the scars?

Probably because he never really had a solid backstory. The one they gave him in The Killing Joke is as close as it gets, but a lot of people still don't consider that his true origin. So instead of trying to make up a reason he is how he is, they let him make up his own stories. Maybe, anyway.

Quote from: Moose Clock;1366342I like this Joker, much more believable.

Why did he keep changing the story on how he got the scars?

Hes crazy and mysterious

its also probably a lot of fun to make up stories

Quote from: Losperman;1366349Probably because he never really had a solid backstory. The one they gave him in The Killing Joke is as close as it gets, but a lot of people still don't consider that his true origin. So instead of trying to make up a reason he is how he is, they let him make up his own stories. Maybe, anyway.

Good theory.

Am I the only one that wants a wallpaper of Joker with the three dogs, that scene looked amazing.

This looks pretty good probably a lot better than Gotham Knight.

Quote from: Losperman;1366297Nurse Joker.

I think its funny how after he leaves the hospital he hits the button to blow it up and only half of it blows. He stops and turns around and starts clicking the button more until finally the rest of the explosions go off and he runs onto the bus real quick.

Quote from: Losperman;1366297The Rachel/Harvey countdown

I am glad they killed her off. That part was written for Katie Holmes and if she isn't gonna play it, I don't see why it should be included.

Also aside from stuff like that at the beginning:

When they are robbing the bank and the one guy tells who ends up being The Joker that "I bet he told you to kill me too at the end, right?" And The Joker was like "No I kill the bus driver." And the other guy is like "What bus driver?" Then the bus plows into the building and he shoots them both.

I saw an Imax midnight premiere.

It was the definition of bad ass, best superhero movie since "Darkman".

Let me do a magic trick! I'll make this pencil disappear!

Like a lot of movies, this is being hyped way too much.  But it really is a great movie.

There is a score-free chase scene in this movie.  Brilliant idea; it really creates a lot of nervous tension removing the music.

I think the bombs on the boats thing was a little too much.  Why no hesitation to blow up the convict's ship?  Sure there are some guards on there, but given the situtation, the innocent civilians obviously come first.

Quote from: joliet_jane;1367879I think the bombs on the boats thing was a little too much.  Why no hesitation to blow up the convict's ship?  Sure there are some guards on there, but given the situtation, the innocent civilians obviously come first.

That was kinda the whole point. The civilians should have thought "They are just criminals lets just let them die!" and the criminals should have just been cold hearted killers who would take down the civilians without a second thought. Both sides in theory should have jumped at the opportunity to save themselves by taking out the others, but when it came time to, no one could bear to have all that blood on their hands. The whole "prank" was based around how when it came down to it no one was willing to kill even for the greater good, like how Batman refused to break his one rule and just kill the Joker, IE: "HIT ME!!! HIT ME!!!!"

Just got back from the movie.  Pretty damn good but I knew about Harvey Dent because I read a Batman graphic novel.  Still didn't expect quite a lot of the stuff, though.
In the graphic novel Batman just chucked Joker right out the fuckin' window, though.  I guess this one fits his motif of being a hero more, though.
Heath Ledger did an amazing job in his role as Joker.

By the way this is not a real Batman movie because Batman never said "I am Batman."

Quote from: AMPM MAN;1366321He sure does

Hoh Lee Shit

Quote from: Floss;1366455I saw an Imax midnight premiere.

It was the definition of bad ass, best superhero movie since "Darkman".

Let me do a magic trick! I'll make this pencil disappear!

I actually have that movie. It was pretty good for an eighties flick, messed up too.

Quote from: joliet_jane;1367879Like a lot of movies, this is being hyped way too much.  But it really is a great movie.

There is a score-free chase scene in this movie.  Brilliant idea; it really creates a lot of nervous tension removing the music.

I think the bombs on the boats thing was a little too much.  Why no hesitation to blow up the convict's ship?  Sure there are some guards on there, but given the situtation, the innocent civilians obviously come first.

Could you kill hundreds of people in cold blood?
I loved that scene. I have a thing about choosing the noble path in morality choices.
The prisoner throwing away the trigger was great in my eyes.

I was thinking, in ultimate irony, the Joker would have rigged it so that was the trigger to their own ship. I don't think that was the case but I thought that would have been a fitting addition.

Just got back from it, gonna spoiler tag my whole post.

Aaron Eckhart played a fucking amazing Two Face.

There's only one thing I can think of off the top of my head that I didn't like, and that was the people imitating Batman. What the shit was that all about?

What I found fucking amazing though, is the fact that the Joker was funny. He was doing horrific things that I and the rest of the theater laughed at. "Wanna see a magic trick?" It was an amazing leap from Burton's Batman, which had to insert musical sequences to make the Joker funny in the slightest.

Ledger and Eckhart definately, without a doubt played the greatest Batman villains outside of comic book form I've ever seen. They practically were the embodiment of their comic book counterparts and I don't think their performances as those characters can ever be topped, not even in the next Batman remake most likely to come around 2026. I don't care for the Nolanverse's Scarecrow though. He's got the role down, but to me he simply does not look right at all. Scarewcrow is lanky, tall, and older looking. Cillian Murphy has none of those three attributes. Thank god he wasn't there for too long in this, playing with any more characters would've mucked up the plot, as much as I love the Scarecrow.

This film is the first thing I've ever seen hyped up the ass for months upon end and then have it still exceed my expectations. Truly incredible. I wanted to see it again as soon as it ended.

Quote from: The Hero of Winds;1368542I actually have that movie. It was pretty good for an eighties flick, messed up too.

It was from 1990 and yeah, it's like the perfect crossover in Raimi's career, like a stepping stone from Evil Dead to Spiderman.

The inclusion of Scarecrow at all was puzzling.  He's there for one second, then he's gone the next.
Scarecrow's voice (with the mask on) was  always badass, though.

Quote from: Floss;1368566It was from 1990 and yeah, it's like the perfect crossover in Raimi's career, like a stepping stone from Evil Dead to Spiderman.

Really? It looked eighties. But I guess 1990 would still have some residual eighties, especially since I bet production didn't start in 1990.

Status Report: I HAVENT SEEN IT YET!!!

Give me a score out of 100

Quote from: King Hippo;1368623SGive me a score out of 100

99.5

It still exceeded my expectations even with all the hype and viral marketing stuff. It loses 0.5 because I felt that one aspect (that doesn't really matter) was pointless. That aspect mattered so little though, that it's just me nit-picking. I covered it in my censored post, but don't read it until after you see the movie.

Quote from: Flux;136865099.5

It still exceeded my expectations even with all the hype and viral marketing stuff. It loses 0.5 because I felt that one aspect (that doesn't really matter) was pointless. That aspect mattered so little though, that it's just me nit-picking. I covered it in my censored post, but don't read it until after you see the movie.

k but I guess Ill wait till after the ComicCon. I am so cool I will be there. Boomshakalaka

Just saw it with Flux. LOVED IT.

I cringed once or twice, to be honest, but it was AMAZING.

Spoiler Alert: Heath Ledger Dies

Spoiler Alert: Bruce Wayne is Batman

Quote from: Flux;1368682Spoiler Alert: Bruce Wayne is Batman

Fun fact:
Before the movie I was taunting my cousin (who I saw it with) about how I knew one of the major spoilers of the movie.  I sent him a text message with that in it and he said "God, dooon't!"

Quote from: Topcatyo;1368684Fun fact:
Before the movie I was taunting my cousin (who I saw it with) about how I knew one of the major spoilers of the movie.  I sent him a text message with that in it and he said "God, dooon't!"

Hahaha, I've never met someone over the age of 10 who doesn't know Bruce Wayne is Batman. It's like the sky being blue.

Quote from: Flux;1368685Hahaha, I've never met someone over the age of 10 who doesn't know Bruce Wayne is Batman. It's like the sky being blue.

No, he knew (we watched Batman Begins two days before watching this), but he said it because he was worried I might be a dick enough to actually spoil something.

Side note: Don't constantly say "Why so serious?" to little kids then ask them if they want a permenant smile. Then laugh like The Joker. It creeps them out. Atleast my nephew any ways lol.

I enjoyed the quiet hum which slowly grew to a piercing screech every time something epic was about to happen (usually between Joker and The Bat)

Also, Commissioner Gordon saved Batman's ass.
Joker: "Can you just give me a minute?"

Quote from: FrankClock;1368948Side note: Don't constantly say "Why so serious?" to little kids then ask them if they want a permenant smile. Then laugh like The Joker. It creeps them out. Atleast my nephew any ways lol.

I kept imitating the Joker like that in front of my little sister, complete with the weird noise he does with his tongue and cheek, and she hit me for it.

Quote from: AirPumpClock;1369007I kept imitating the Joker like that in front of my little sister, complete with the weird noise he does with his tongue and cheek, and she hit me for it.

My nephew just fell on the ground and curled up in a ball. Nothing like getting them scared of clowns at an early age. Didn't help that he brought up a webpage and it had The Joker on there with his crazy look, etc.

Quote from: FrankClock;1369011My nephew just fell on the ground and curled up in a ball. Nothing like getting them scared of clowns at an early age. Didn't help that he brought up a webpage and it had The Joker on there with his crazy look, etc.

hahahahahaha

You can make kids scared of anything. My uncle got my cousin (his son) to be afraid of the Easter Bunny when I was little, I shit you not. And there's that one science experiment with the mouse and the gong that made a kid afraid of mice and other small, white, fluffy things. Some lady psychologist found out a way to reverse phobias some years later, fortunately.

Quote from: FrankClock;1369011My nephew just fell on the ground and curled up in a ball. Nothing like getting them scared of clowns at an early age. Didn't help that he brought up a webpage and it had The Joker on there with his crazy look, etc.

I was already afraid of clowns when I was 5 years old so how early are you saying? 2 years old?

I was afraid of everything as a little kid, so I've made a lot of progress.

i had difficulty looking at two-face's bad eye it was so scary

Quote from: King Hippo;1369081I was already afraid of clowns when I was 5 years old so how early are you saying? 2 years old?

He is 5 or 6. I can't remember. Now when he annoys me though all I have to do is say "Why" and he runs away.

Quote from: DarkKnightUsernameOmg;1369446i had difficulty looking at two-face's bad eye it was so scary

I couldn't stop looking at this string of skin connecting his chin to his cheek.  I dunno, but it grossed me out.

I saw it and it was super awesome.

Seen it to fuck.
Been awhile since Ive seen an audience erupt with applause 30 minutes into a film, best magic pencil trick ever. =p

Anyway, Too much awesome to condense into a single post atm. Will be back after several more views and much thought.

one of the best movies I have ever seen. Great flick.

Quote from: Topcatyo;1369619I couldn't stop looking at this string of skin connecting his chin to his cheek.  I dunno, but it grossed me out.

yeah! first time i've ever really seen anything get across what a truly horrific experience harvey dent had

i liked the big black guy on the prison boat.

When Joker said "I want to drive" I couldn't help but imagine a giant Strawberry Clock replacing his head for a few seconds.

Not one of best but I kind of liked it without all the gadgets and unreal effects and stunts.

Quote from: Topcatyo;1370554When Joker said "I want to drive" I couldn't help but imagine a giant Strawberry Clock replacing his head for a few seconds.

I just imagined chopping out that clip for a CCTV or a 3 second colab

Heath Ledger is/was a god.

I heard vague details about Twoface before seeing the movie, I instantly knew it would be Harvey Dent since he has a two faced coin and he's the only major character who could be him.

Quote from: joliet_jane;1367879I think the bombs on the boats thing was a little too much.  Why no hesitation to blow up the convict's ship?  Sure there are some guards on there, but given the situtation, the innocent civilians obviously come first.

Joker could have wired the remotes to blow up their own ship to kill off selfish people, but then again Joker isn't one of those kinds of villains.  Just a thought.

Quote from: Drebin;1371285Joker could have wired the remotes to blow up their own ship to kill off selfish people, but then again Joker isn't one of those kinds of villains.  Just a thought.

That's what I was thinking. It would be ironic, but yeah, the Joker isn't the kind of villain for that.

Quote from: Drebin;1371285Heath Ledger is/was a god.

I heard vague details about Twoface before seeing the movie, I instantly knew it would be Harvey Dent since he has a two faced coin and he's the only major character who could be him.

The fact that he was two face in all the comics, animated series and in the previous movie didn't tip you off?

Quote from: HandBanana;1371331The fact that he was two face in all the comics, animated series and in the previous movie didn't tip you off?

Haha, this. To me, Harvey Dent is Two Face was as plain as Bruce Wayne is Batman. I made the mistake of thinking everyone else also knew and people got pissed.

Quote from: HandBanana;1371331The fact that he was two face in all the comics, animated series and in the previous movie didn't tip you off?

No, because I didn't read a single comic or watch a single animated episode, and I don't remember anything from the first one.

Quote from: The Hero of Winds;1368542Could you kill hundreds of people in cold blood?
I loved that scene. I have a thing about choosing the noble path in morality choices.
The prisoner throwing away the trigger was great in my eyes.

Given the circumstances, yes I could, if I had been vested with such authority.  My reasoning is that law enforcement officers are in the business of protecting the innocent. The fact that a criminal had to take the detonator away from a spineless cop is proof of the city's weak leadership. If they can't handle their responsibilities... well, I guess if they could, Gotham wouldn't need Batman.

QuoteI was thinking, in ultimate irony, the Joker would have rigged it so that was the trigger to their own ship. I don't think that was the case but I thought that would have been a fitting addition.

I did that was a possibility, too.  Did any of the characters consider it?

Quote from: HandBanana;1371331The fact that he was two face in all the comics, animated series and in the previous movie didn't tip you off?

My sister forgot that too.  I kind of envy how average viewers have the chance to actually be surprised.

Quote from: joliet_jane;1372043I kind of envy how average viewers have the chance to actually be surprised.

I envied it for a minute, but then I realized that they don't get the feeling of seeing something they already love come to life in such a great way.

Joker: How many of your friends have I killed?
Cop: Six.
Joker: *mouths out "six"*

I figured that the detonators would have been for their own ships, but I guess the Joker wouldn't have found it necessary to do that

Quote from: Phantom Renegade;1372059Joker: How many of your friends have I killed?
Cop: Six.
Joker: *mouths out "six"*

Hahaha, I forgot about that part. That was awesome.

Quote from: Phantom Renegade;1372059Joker: How many of your friends have I killed?
Cop: Six.
Joker: *mouths out "six"*

I figured that the detonators would have been for their own ships, but I guess the Joker wouldn't have found it necessary to do that

Yeah, I think he was just trying to show that men would be amoral in a pinch, not punish them for it.

Quote from: MasterClock;1371800No, because I didn't read a single comic or watch a single animated episode, and I don't remember anything from the first one.

What are you ?

I finally saw it today, and it's definitely one of the best movies I've seen in a long time! Gotta love those antics of Joker.

I consider this the best Batman movie so far. Perhaps even the best superhero movie.

Quote from: Phantom Renegade;1372059Joker: How many of your friends have I killed?
Cop: Six.
Joker: *mouths out "six"*

I figured that the detonators would have been for their own ships, but I guess the Joker wouldn't have found it necessary to do that

LOL,They could have been.

Quote from: Mentos Clock;1372269the best superhero movie.

no question in my mind that it definately is

Quote from: Asshat Man;1372262What are you ?

Certainly not a comic book fan!

.................IS THE DVD OUT YET

Also, MasterClock, how did you grow up with a childhood deprived of ALL Batman?

Quote from: AMPM MAN;1373531Also, MasterClock, how did you grow up with a childhood deprived of ALL Batman?

I didn't know Two Face's real name, but when Dent had the coin I instantly knew. Also, I thought the scar was from chemical burn because batman accidentally dropped him into a vat of chemicals, but he was still survived...

Wow, bigbadron just pointed out something interesting he heard somewhere:

The guy who almost ratted Batman out was named Mr. Reese. I thought he might be involved in the next one since he's the only normal citizen that knows Batman's identity, and now this only feeds speculation about a possible Riddler character even more. Or do you think it's just an odd coincidence?

Quote from: Losperman;1373609The guy who almost ratted Batman out was named Mr. Reese. I thought he might be involved in the next one since he's the only normal citizen that knows Batman's identity, and now this only feeds speculation about a possible Riddler character even more. Or do you think it's just an odd coincidence?

Not one bit. I'm sure the writers were thinking about a sequel while writing this one, and that makes sense, so ya.

Quote from: Losperman;1373609Wow, bigbadron just pointed out something interesting he heard somewhere:

The guy who almost ratted Batman out was named Mr. Reese. I thought he might be involved in the next one since he's the only normal citizen that knows Batman's identity, and now this only feeds speculation about a possible Riddler character even more. Or do you think it's just an odd coincidence?

they already confirmed a sequel and heath ledger accepted to be in it then he died.

Quote from: RomanClock;1373606] Also, I thought the scar was from chemical burn because batman accidentally dropped him into a vat of chemicals, but he was still survived...

That was the joker.

REALLY! WOOOOWHOLY SHIT I did not know that was scarecrow, wow, nice twist

I STILL HAVE TO WATCH IT

Quote from: yo if your smart you;1374190I don't think we should be using spoiler tags in this thread. It is on the very discussion of the movie. If you haven't seen the movie, you shouldn't be clicking on this thread. You should simply expect spoilers to be in a discussion about the film in question. I didn't click here beforehand, neither should you.

I am aware of my risks so I guess you have all the liberty to spit up all you can. I agree.

Quote from: yo if your smart you;1374162Edit: He is seen again as one of The Joker's henchmen. He may have escaped during the Joker's tirades against the Police or was never arrested in the first place. I'm going to assume the former, due to his new profession. It's the Scarecrow, without the mask or make up, who Harvey Dent is threatening to kill during his interrogation, if you can call it that. It is never mentioned if he is arrested or simply set free by Dent after Batman intervenes.

That wasn't him, though. That was just a thug.

Quote from: Losperman;1374235That wasn't him, though. That was just a thug.

Daaamnit that would have been cool

Quote from: yo if your smart you;1374250I don't think you're right on that one. I'll admit, I'll have to see it again but I recall it looking just like the Scarecrow. Even more so, Batman recognized him and mentions that he's mentally ill, as if he knew him from before. I'll have to watch it again.

Scarecrow



Joker Thug

Quote from: yo if your smart you;1374314You are perceptive, Losperman.

Nah, I've just seen the first movie a million times and this one three. _poogle_

So I saw Dark knight and it is very clear that I don’t like batman. I though it was rather meh in every way.

Quote from: super0sonic;1374492So I saw Dark knight and it is very clear that I don’t like batman. I though it was rather meh in every way.

best be joking

Quote from: fuck me? fuck you.;1374566best be joking

No but then i don't really like batman as a franchise, or really anything DC, Always liked Marvel more.

What would happen if I were to say I don't know the difference between Marvel and DC?

Quote from: MasterClock;1374869What would happen if I were to say I don't know the difference between Marvel and DC?

:lantern:

paul giamatti as the penguin in the next or the riddler ok

Quote from: MasterClock;1374869What would happen if I were to say I don't know the difference between Marvel and DC?

The characters are the main difference, and frankly, DC dominates that field.

Quote from: yo if your smart you;1377192"Can it protect against dogs?"
"...It can protect against cats."

Sounds like foreshadowing towards the next villain.

lolol seriously

Quote from: yo if your smart you;1377192"Can it protect against dogs?"
"...It can protect against cats."

Sounds like foreshadowing towards the next villain.

Ooh, that's pretty good deducing.
Here's hoping the next film doesn't star Halle Berry.

Only just saw it. I missed the first film, so things like the increased kill-rate, the more somber tone and boring Gotham City took me by surprise. Heath Ledger's performance is undoubtedly fantastic, and his lines were very well written, however I found Bale's acting to be unremarkable and, whether it be the fault of the him or the script, made the character of Bruce Wayne arrogant and un-relatable rather than sympathetic. I found the fact that he must have deliberately lowered his voice when dressed in the batsuit funny. I also thought the supporting roles were miscast; Morgan Freeman playing the same boring old fart, genteel black man he always does, Caine... (I just don't like him), Oldman playing a character far too ordinary and Maggie Gyllenhaal... I find personally emetic.

I liked most of it, though. The pace was almost relentless, although, unaware of the running time, I was expecting the film to end in about 10 different places in the final 60 minutes. The special effects and stunts were very impressive, with a tasteful use of CGI. The art design was great, and as far as you could get from Batman and Batman Returns (both of which I liked, for the record); the city is boring, the colours are dull and realistic, there's proper gore and the villain's costumes are tattered and worn, not bright and garish. The plot was a little muddy and contrived, and there was a lot of suspension of disbelief required regarding the Joker's seemingly omnipotent powers, but it was anything but dull, and the script made the Batman/ Joker relationship into much more than a game of cat-and-mouse, raising some interesting, Watchmen-like moral ambiguities regarding vigilantism.

Not bad. I'd give it 3/5. I think the IMDB score is a bit high, at the moment.

Quote from: Losperman;1374263Scarecrow

http://xs229.xs.to/xs229/08313/cillianmurphy441.jpg

Joker Thug

http://xs229.xs.to/xs229/08313/jokerthug869.jpg

Different people:

Scare Crow: Cillian Murphy
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0614165/

Joker Thug: David Dastmalchian
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2810287/

Quote from: RomanClock;1377360Different people:

Scare Crow: Cillian Murphy
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0614165/

Joker Thug: David Dastmalchian
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2810287/

That's all David Dastmalchian has ever been in?  I could swear I've seen his face playing other bit parts other times...

Quote from: Eric Foreman;1377366That's all David Dastmalchian has ever been in?  I could swear I've seen his face playing other bit parts other times...

Yeah me too

I can't help but think Cillian Murphy's Scarecrow is a shitty adaption so far. I hope they fix him up and make him actually a decent villain in the next one.

Also:
http://thegothamtimes.com/issue2/page2.htm

The letter to the editor entitled "Dent Cannot Be Believed" is sent in by Edward Nashton, which is one of the Riddler's lesser known aliases. Also, that number-crunching employee who essentially figured out Bruce Wayne is Batman is a very possible Riddler candidate for the next one. He wasn't given a name(yet). The Riddler was one of the few villains who knew Bruce Wayne was Batman for a time.

Think about it. Including that number cruncher was pretty pointless if we won't be seeing him again.

Joker knows who Batman is.

Quote from: Eric Foreman;1377366That's all David Dastmalchian has ever been in?  I could swear I've seen his face playing other bit parts other times...

Maybe you are thinking of David Krumholtz - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0472710

Johnny Depp as the Riddler in 3? (http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/91673)

Quote from: FrankClock;1377412Maybe you are thinking of David Krumholtz - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0472710

No.  I just recently watched Walk Hard again and I would've been like "Oh, hey, he was in Walk Hard!" but nope :(

Quote from: RomanClock;1377418Johnny Depp as the Riddler in 3?

Dumb rumor. Stupid fanboy dream. Won't happen.

The mere fact that that article says the Penguin is also a possibility shows it doesn't know what the fuck it's saying. Nolan directly said no to the Penguin. Not "a source said he said no", or "we think he'd say no". He said no.

"Do fans think Rachel Dawes, Bruce Wayne's one-and-only, was really the Catwoman all along?" - Haha, what the hell is with this article? Rachel is dead.

Quote from: Flux;1377409Edward Nashton, which is one of the Riddler's lesser known aliases.

Also arguably his current canonical real name.

Quote from: Flux;1377409Also, that number-crunching employee who essentially figured out Bruce Wayne is Batman is a very possible Riddler candidate for the next one. He wasn't given a name(yet). The Riddler was one of the few villains who knew Bruce Wayne was Batman for a time.

Think about it. Including that number cruncher was pretty pointless if we won't be seeing him again.

Actually, if I may refer you to page three:

Quote from: Losperman;1373609Wow, bigbadron just pointed out something interesting he heard somewhere:

The guy who almost ratted Batman out was named Mr. Reese. I thought he might be involved in the next one since he's the only normal citizen that knows Batman's identity, and now this only feeds speculation about a possible Riddler character even more. Or do you think it's just an odd coincidence?

So, his name is mysteries, and he knows Batman's true identity. It's got to be him.

Quote from: Losperman;1377575Actually, if I may refer you to page three:



So, his name is mysteries, and he knows Batman's true identity. It's got to be him.

Haha, I totally missed that post of yours. Sorry.

Quote from: Flux;1377842Haha, I totally missed that post of yours. Sorry.

Haha, no need to apologize, it wasn't even me that noticed the name thing. Although, now that I think about it more, do you think the actor they got could pull off a good Riddler? I can see how they might have set his character up to become the Riddler (or a villain of some sort), but he just didn't seem interesting or charismatic enough for the part. Maybe he'll surprise me (if he does end up reprising the role).

Quote from: Losperman;1377867Haha, no need to apologize, it wasn't even me that noticed the name thing. Although, now that I think about it more, do you think the actor they got could pull off a good Riddler? I can see how they might have set his character up to become the Riddler (or a villain of some sort), but he just didn't seem interesting or charismatic enough for the part. Maybe he'll surprise me (if he does end up reprising the role).

As Caddy said, his face wasn't exactly memorable enough to where he'd be difficult to replace.

To simply answer your question though: maybe. In most comics I've read, it's very clearly shown that the Riddler is not a physical threat, and would possibly even be afraid of facing Batman hand to hand. His only strength is his intelligence and elaborate traps. They made it clear with this actor that he'd be afraid of facing Batman hand-to hand, they did a good job showing that. I don't personally think he was on screen nearly long enough for anyone to know whether or not he'd be good. He looks like they could turn him into the Riddler, but I've personally never even seen that actor before in anything else, so I dunno.

Also the puzzle piece thing in all the websites, that seemed Riddler-ish.

Quote from: The Hero of Winds;1377997Also the puzzle piece thing in all the websites, that seemed Riddler-ish.

Roses are red,
Corpses are blue,
You're on the right track,
But you don't have the clue.

The circled letters in the HahahaTimes came out to be that riddle.

Seriously did the lip licking annoy anyone else?

Also why no penguin? I never liked catwoman, I always thought she was lame and boring. The penguin is interesting at least.

no he isn't.

and catwoman owns.

Quote from: Slurpee;1378080no he isn't.

and catwoman owns.

Well fuck you buddy.

hey fuck you too >=(

Quote from: ButtplugClock;1378077Seriously did the lip licking annoy anyone else?

no i loved it and i wished he would have done it more.

I was watching cartoon network while I did some shit for my dad I saw the commercial for Dark Knight action figures, and the joker looks all like Heath Ledger, I dont know, its just really weird. I mean, when Batman Forever and Batman & Robin came out, they had action figures and poptarts and candy, its weird seeing it from an older kids perspective.

Quote from: ButtplugClock;1378079Also why no penguin? I never liked catwoman, I always thought she was lame and boring. The penguin is interesting at least.

The penguin is pathetic. He's so lame that he's the one in a million Batman villain that doesn't get sent to Arkham Asylum. He goes to regular prison.

All-in-all, the Riddler would be badass as hell if done right.

I have two questions, I am to lazy to look if they have been answered but here it goes.

1. How the hell did batman survive that leap from the building and onto the car?

2. How the fuck did two face survive that car crash... with out a seat belt?

Quote from: ArrowClock;1378561I have two questions, I am to lazy to look if they have been answered but here it goes.

1. How the hell did batman survive that leap from the building and onto the car?

Dr. Scholl's foot gels or something.

Quote2. How the fuck did two face survive that car crash... with out a seat belt?

He puts one on before he shoots the driver.
I only noticed this the second time I saw it.

Quote from: Joey;1378565He puts one on before he shoots the driver.
I only noticed this the second time I saw it.

Same here. I thought he actually took it off, but when I watched it again he puts it on.

Not sure about the fall, though. I suppose you could use the old standby reason: he's the fucking Batman. :)

If he's got the gear to tear through a van and bend a fucking gun, he's not going to die from jumping onto a van.

Remember the limits discussion with Alfred afterwards and how torn up Bruce looked? He probably got a lot of those wounds from jumping onto the car.

Quote from: ArrowClock;13785611. How the hell did batman survive that leap from the building and onto the car?

I wasn't sure how to answer your question here, so I asked him personally and this is what he said:

Quote from: Eric Foreman;1378555All-in-all, the Riddler would be badass as hell if done right.

I don't know... I mean, they could do a really, really good job, but I think it would probably turn out really Joker-ish.

Actually, as I typed that, it occurred to me that it probably wouldn't. The Joker didn't bother with complex mindfucks. He just forced people into moral turmoil. So yeah, the Riddler could be really, really good. I still wouldn't mind the Penguin, though.

Imagine The Riddler hinting as to what building he was going to blow up.  Batman figures it out and goes to that building, only to have a building across town blow up because he didn't notice one minute clue in the riddle.
OH SHIT.

I can't beleive none of you guys noticed the seatbelt part.
Also, I didn't realize the Penguin was a master at Judo...
Also the Penguin is connected to Lex Luthor...