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These are ideas for some flash project i may or may not be creating in the future. I only just started as i will be doing alot of these "reference" sheets to other characters, but how do you think of them so far?

Looks interesting. Does everyone in the universe in which this will take place have bug-like appendages of some sort, or does that only apply to those characters?

Quote from: ORLY;1369266Looks interesting. Does everyone in the universe in which this will take place have bug-like appendages of some sort, or does that only apply to those characters?

Going out all bug on this one.

OH DEAR GOD IT'S THE NEXT LEVEL OF FURRIES

The first one could use some development. The antennae look fairly unnaturally placed, maybe pointing them upwards could fix it. Also, it looks more like a cartoon than the other two.

No offense, but the second one looks like a 14 year old weeaboo girl drew a self portrait.
EDIT: Holy shit look at that camel toe

Third is awesome

the third reminds me to Gumshoe

Woah, I see your style has changed greatly. Do you still do what I call "breadfruiting" which is all the little lines and dots for shading? Wouldn't really work on these lil fellas though. I like the top and bottom one, not so much the middle :0

Quote from: X-Files Clock;1369272OH DEAR GOD IT'S THE NEXT LEVEL OF FURRIES
The first one could use some development. The antennae look fairly unnaturally placed, maybe pointing them upwards could fix it. Also, it looks more like a cartoon than the other two.
No offense, but the second one looks like a 14 year old weeaboo girl drew a self portrait.
EDIT: Holy shit look at that camel toe
Third is awesome

1. Yeah i drew the ant a few weeks before the other 2, so the style is very different. I like the place of the antennae, i'm not sure what you mean by that.
2. Yeah i can't draw girls without giving it an anime style. ;c
3. Yeah i loved how Jim came out, thanks.

Quote from: HazardClock;1369276the third reminds me to Gumshoe

any fat guy with a coat = gumshoe

Quote from: PsychonautClock;1369280Woah, I see your style has changed greatly. Do you still do what I call "breadfruiting" which is all the little lines and dots for shading? Wouldn't really work on these lil fellas though. I like the top and bottom one, not so much the middle :0

I only do that on paper drawlings, and rarely flash drawn.
also LEAVE INKAY ALONEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Fairly nice. Kinda odd though.

Quote from: HazardClock;1369276the third reminds me to Gumshoe

Buzz buzz, pal!

Also, I would suggest changing Inkay's clothes.  That shit looks uncomfortable.

A few huge, mind-blowing problems:

1. Gage's face looks completely different from the side than from the front.

2. Inkay looks like ass from the side. Terrible proportions.

3. Anime.

4. Inkay and Gage don't seem to match the bug theme that the other characters do, but rather generic anime fan characters. To be honest, I don't like where this whole thing's going already. Reminds me of Wonchop.

Yes, I'm being a douche, but something about this whole setup irks me. Perhaps try not using anime.

Quote from: GearBox;1370721Fairly nice. Kinda odd though.

Thanks.

Quote from: Topcatyo;1370728Buzz buzz, pal!

Also, I would suggest changing Inkay's clothes.  That shit looks uncomfortable.

She'll be having a redesign seeing how everyone here hates her . These aren't finals I'm just playing with ideas, so suggestions are open.

Quote from: AirPumpClock;1370734A few huge, mind-blowing problems:
1. Gage's face looks completely different from the side than from the front.
2. Inkay looks like ass from the side. Terrible proportions.
3. Anime.
4. Inkay and Gage don't seem to match the bug theme that the other characters do, but rather generic anime fan characters. To be honest, I don't like where this whole thing's going already. Reminds me of Wonchop.
Yes, I'm being a douche, but something about this whole setup irks me. Perhaps try not using anime.

1. I realize that, his front view is entirely anime and his side view is more of a cartoon style. The front view is the first drawling i ever did of him, i draw him like the side view depicts now.
2. Shes kinda leaning, its not a complete side view, but i guess i messed up in a few areas.
3. Yes, as much as i try to stay away from it all my work looks like it. I really am having trouble developing an original style, especially with bodies.
4. Gage = worker ant.
Black (ant) suit (worker)
Inkay = Termite
Working clothes to work with wood ect

Needs less anime.

Quote from: Phantom Renegade;1370793Needs less anime.

Would you like to tell me how i can differ my style from anime?
I'm really up for criticism guys, i want to form my own style.

Completely rework how you draw faces based on how YOU see faces. Just look at people while you draw them. Don't think about anything you know about drawing faces while you do it, just think about the lines of the features.

Anime also has a thing about drawing people like a mental homunculus. I guess they call it "chibi". It's mostly made to look "cute" and to appeal to children, whose heads are disproportionately large and who think people with hands and feet dressed in massive gloves and boots are cool. Redraw the first guy, with the green hair, with his hands, feet, and head in proper proportion to his body.

Quote from: fuck me? fuck you.;1370853Would you like to tell me how i can differ my style from anime?
I'm really up for criticism guys, i want to form my own style.

Well, it seems like you draw a lot of three-quarter views as anime. I'm probably not the one to ask about drawing faces, but I'd look at different styles of drawing.

Quote from: Not Blackmagic;1370875Completely rework how you draw faces based on how YOU see faces. Just look at people while you draw them. Don't think about anything you know about drawing faces while you do it, just think about the lines of the features.

Well, that's certainly a fine way to eradicate any potential originality.

Quote from: Not Blackmagic;1370875Completely rework how you draw faces based on how YOU see faces. Just look at people while you draw them. Don't think about anything you know about drawing faces while you do it, just think about the lines of the features.

I guess i could give this a shot.

Quote from: Not Blackmagic;1370875Anime also has a thing about drawing people like a mental homunculus. I guess they call it "chibi". It's mostly made to look "cute" and to appeal to children, whose heads are disproportionately large and who think people with hands and feet dressed in massive gloves and boots are cool. Redraw the first guy, with the green hair, with his hands, feet, and head in proper proportion to his body.

An old poor attempt, i tried to get it in proper proportion but it still reaks of anime.

Quote from: fuck me? fuck you.;1370853Would you like to tell me how i can differ my style from anime?
I'm really up for criticism guys, i want to form my own style.

try copying photographs instead of looking up tutorials. on how to draw an anime face.
also watch this video it will help you start I promise
[u2]olV2aD_L6xo[/u2]

Quote from: astronautt;1371051try copying photographs instead of looking up tutorials. on how to draw an anime face.

Don't copy photographs. That's a perfect way to learn disproportion, because the mind perceives things differently than they really are. And anime is just a big no.

I'd recommend looking at Richard Williams, Disney and Chuck Jones. They were great animators.

The main idea behind animating is to take things from life, then overexaggerate it, from the way its shaped to the way it moves.

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An old poor attempt, i tried to get it in proper proportion but it still reaks of anime.

Not as bad as the pictures you posted at the beginning of the thread. Mostly, the proportions, character design, and facial features are anime-ish, but I prefer this. Still, make it more like an American cartoon. Try and avoid weird-colored, spiky hair as well, as well as Japanese police officer looking uniforms.

EDIT: Oh, and there's proportion problems, especially on the face, head and back arm.

Man I was totally going to post a hating comment in here because of our little squabble but everyone is hating on you so I just want to say I LOVE YOU AND DON'T LET ANYONE TELL YOU DIFFERENT ALSO 陰茎　陰茎　陰茎　陰茎　陰茎

Quote from: Shana;1371449Man I was totally going to post a hating comment in here because of our little squabble but everyone is hating on you so I just want to say I LOVE YOU AND DON'T LET ANYONE TELL YOU DIFFERENT ALSO 陰茎　陰茎　陰茎　陰茎　陰茎

Thanks to Babel Fish, I speak Japanese. The above Japanese means "Penis penis penis penis penis".

I actually think they look fine, because anime does not instantly mean something is bad.

Just try to get a uniform style going between all 3 characters and I think it will work well.

Also, the Inkay's clothes are fine, it's just that in the first view they look painfully tight. loosen them up a bit and it should work.

Quote from: SoBeClock;1371475I actually think they look fine, because anime does not instantly mean something is bad.

Just try to get a uniform style going between all 3 characters and I think it will work well.

Also, the Inkay's clothes are fine, it's just that in the first view they look painfully tight. loosen them up a bit and it should work.

i'm sorry but this post is too positive please leave the premises as we do not do that here

But really i would like to part from anime, especially when animating. Unfortunately anything else i try looks really bad, having a style that can be recognized as individual is what i want.

Quote from: fuck me? fuck you.;1371489i'm sorry but this post is too positive please leave the premises as we do not do that here

But really i would like to part from anime, especially when animating. Unfortunately anything else i try looks really bad, having a style that can be recognized as individual is what i want.

In that case, take reality and exaggerate it.

Quote from: GearBox;1371453Thanks to Babel Fish, I speak Japanese. The above Japanese means "Penis penis penis penis penis".

お前はあたまに来るわ

gay jap shit

Quote from: fuck me? fuck you.;1370900
An old poor attempt, i tried to get it in proper proportion but it still reaks of anime.

That's a lot cooler at least.

Quote from: TremcladClock;1370892Well, that's certainly a fine way to eradicate any potential originality.

Forgetting how you've been taught to draw eradicates originality? What? I'm not telling him he has to be a realist, I'm just saying he has to look at an eye like he looks at an eye, and draw based on HIS interpretation of the forms instead of going by the way he's been taught to, which is necessarily based on someone else's interpretations.

Inkay just needs a minor rework is all. I really like the khaki engineer look on a girl, but putting her in mens full-length overalls might be better. Baggy in the legs, pulled in by the belt at the waist, and formed at the top of the breast with an airspace between the waist and about two inches below the tit. A better weapon might also be an improvement; Pay a tribute to Macintosh and give the semi-hot chick a sledge to throw around, or if try a cordless powertool, like a drill, circular saw, or automatic feed screwgun.

Oh, and Inquisitor draws really good bug girls. You should have him send you some.

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tried to be alittle different with this one, but i hate the results

Quote from: SCSP;1377539gay jap shit

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tried to be alittle different with this one, but i hate the results

You still have the exaggerated extremities and distance distortion from anime, but the face is a definite departure, and not for worse. The hair needs work, but hair is always hard. Right now it looks like SBC leaves.

You'll probably hate your art for a long time when you're first breaking away from the beaten path. For the next couple years, perhaps, it will probably look unformed and weak in comparison. Persist, though. If you never practice building your own style the style will never be built, and you'll remain limited to imitation.

Just look at some pictures of anime expressions next to pictures of the same expressions in a realist style. That should give you some perspective on the traits of your style that are inherited from anime. The things that make anime anime and not some other style.

Quote from: astronautt;1371051try copying photographs instead of looking up tutorials. on how to draw an anime face.
also watch this video it will help you start I promise
[u2]olV2aD_L6xo[/u2]

Wogh holy shit this video helped me shitloads. I learned loads of stuff great find!



As for your bug people. I think you should add some more subtle bug characteristics. Or make them more bug like. Because to me they just

And feel like crazy people. Like the guy with the bumble bee coat. I don't know I may be rambling on now. regardless there very nice. Except for that tiki looking light bug girl. you should change her boots into girly shoes. Also, I don't like how she has that thing sticking out of there. You should have it aiming up instead of down. I don't see how it could fit in that tiny skirt.
 Here I drew something to help you understand what I mean.




EDIT: Holy fuck, that moth is fucking sexy!

Quote from: ArrowClock;1379923As for your bug people. I think you should add some more subtle bug characteristics. Or make them more bug like. Because to me they just

Just what?

Quote from: ArrowClock;1379923Except for that tiki looking light bug girl. you should change her boots into girly shoes. Also, I don't like how she has that thing sticking out of there. You should have it aiming up instead of down. I don't see how it could fit in that tiny skirt.
 Here I drew something to help you understand what I mean.

I should have included a side view, its not in her skirt, its pretty large starting from her lower back. The part you see is the tip. As for the shoes, all designs are not final, so you're suggestion is appreciated! (extremly hot drawling btw)

Quote from: ArrowClock;1379923EDIT: Holy fuck, that moth is fucking sexy!

Thanks!

Quote from: Yuki Nagato;1370715

The grasshopper from James and the Giant Peach came to mind.

The cricket guy looks pretty classy. I also like how you do outfits, they aren't all boring. I don't really have any criticism because frankly you are a mush better artist than me, haha.

Quote from: Solenoidclock;1378653Oh, and Inquisitor draws really good bug girls. You should have him send you some.

Haha I want to see these.

I am trying to come up with something original as i type! Well, i was. Its fucking 3:30 im tired ok. I'll scan some shit later, and i want opinions!

Quote from: ButtplugClock;1382858The cricket guy looks pretty classy. I also like how you do outfits, they aren't all boring.

Thanks! You have an A+ sig!

I like Buttplug's signature too.

I like the bee man and the cricket man, they're the most interesting in terms of how you applied the insect idea to human form.

I don't understand why people are suggesting you look at photos or american cartoons or specific artists without even mentioning drawing from life. Drawing from life is the way forwards bud.

Also on the subject of only being able to draw girls in anime fashion: the key to drawing the opposite gender is to stop caring whether they're attractive or not. It's the longing to draw what you're attracted to that gets in the way of clear thought. All you need to do is analyse the difference between men and women and it becomes simple. There's actually not much difference at all, it's almost entirely in the thickness of the neck and shoulders. Don't let what you think about girls get in the way of what girls actually look like.

Oh also I don't like the way that portrait tutorial man draws. I don't think you should know what you're going to be doing next I'm more for constant spontaneity and invention.

Hey, looking good. I agree with everything said in here. I think the way you are making it look too anime is in the eyes. Try to make them smaller. Right now, they're pretty massive and make the whole head look anime. Check out Arrowclocks reference bug girl. See the eyes? Yup.

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Attempt!

I like it.

Quote from: Topcatyo;1386404I like it.

I like you.

I like him, but his brow confuses me

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I tried at least

I <3 it!

Still getting better! Cartoony, yes, but much more removed from anime. I would make the head smaller next. Keep in mind that in reality the head grows much less through puberty than the body, so if the head is disproportionately larger than the body it means the body hasn't grown into the head yet. To exaggerate the size of the head is to say that the character is a youth, the bigger the younger. Also, an anatomy thing, the teeth should not be twisted to the side by the lips being twisted in that "grr" shape. It makes it look like you think the mouth is normally off-center. Also, the bicuspids and molars should be showing in full view, not the front teeth.

Quote from: Munglai;1382933Drawing from life is the way forwards bud.

I said that but then Tremclad said that eradicates originality.

Quote from: Munglai;1382935Oh also I don't like the way that portrait tutorial man draws. I don't think you should know what you're going to be doing next I'm more for constant spontaneity and invention.

Yes, I hate the way he draws noses. He also relies on shading to flesh out the art, while I think your shading should be optional, and that you should be able to explain the form through only outlines. But then I guess that's just what separates our drawing styles.

Quote from: Yuki Nagato;1386395
Attempt!

His weight distribution doesn't make sense, he should be falling over.

I kind of dig his mouth though.

On more thing, the right antenna should be facing forward or going slightways to the other direction.

better or worse

In my opinion, better.
It's a huge improvement over your original drawings, I do know that.

looks alittle stale, no?

that looks very nice!




One thing i would say is try to be a little more courageous to your character design and try to dimensionalize parts of his body, what sticks out most are the eyes and the ears.

Try to curve the eyes a bit at your current perspective (obviously this will not apply to a frontal perspective) to make it seem like he is staring at something from a side angle, instead of just looking directly in front of him constantly.


I would also try to fold the ears back to your characters hair slightly so that he is showing realism through this perspective, it wont seem to make much difference but if you are trying to improve your style this will help you alot with character depth.

Also, the foot on the right could use some work.  As of now it's just a circle.
Not that I'm any good at feet.  Hell, they're my achilles heel(hahaha puns), and I'm absolute shit at drawing the way they look from several angles no matter how hard I try.
Also the face seems a tad lacking without eyebrows when he's angry.

I love everything about the new shape. The brow is much better, but where did the fuzz go?

I think it's neato

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better or worse

Mjök better! He looks like a pissy curmudgeon, not an "lolusoangree" person. In my opinion, just that is an improvement, because the latter is much more superficial. Here is very emotion invokes something like having a bad day, or a reason to be angry instead of just being comically and cutely angry. Also, the way it looks here is that the big eyes are bug eyes, not anime eyes. So in general his emotion and appearance makes him look like a near-perfect anthropomorphisation of a wasp, but a stag beetle works, too, if that same sort of personality is what you're going for. The antennae still need to be righted like I mentioned earlier, though.

Keep the anime styled ones.

Hey now. It may take time to develop it, but I think it's a step in a better direction. The main thing the anime style has on this one is the level of detail, which, obviously, he can account for. And once he starts using this primarily he'll decide to make slight alterations over time, eventually building it up to high quality.

Quote from: Shana;1371527お前はあたまに来るわ

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Draw him crawling on someone while they sleep.

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Quote from: Scout;1426249been practicing with photoshop, I'm slowly getting the gist of it
(for some reason i can't post images, so have some links)
first bad attempt
dispenser aggaa
oh god it burns

I'm loving the mouth on the third one.

I love them all. The first one creeps me out because his antennae look like maggots.