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Arts & Leisure => Gaming & Technology => Topic farted by: WreckingBallClock on September 24, 2008, 02:29:59 PM

Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: WreckingBallClock on September 24, 2008, 02:29:59 PM
Basic production went like this:

Guy 1: "Holy shit guys! Guess what? You know that thing where we released a bunch of old Mario games for the Virtual Console every week?"

Guy 2: "Lol yeah. I love that idea of translating games instead of working on a new one.'

Guy 1: "Turns out this one, it was like... Super Mario RPG or something... well a lot of people are buying it, and they like it!"

Guy 3: "Really? They like possibly one of the greatest ideas ever created? Wow, how weird!"

Guy 1: "So I was thinking... if they really like it, then they'd probably buy a NEW version right?"

Guy 2: "Hey YEAH! That would be amazing! We'd get a whole BUNCH of sales!"

Guy 3: "We can even clone the game like we did for the first two Paper Mario games!"

Guy 2: "And we'll use Sonic! It'll be amazing!"

Guy 1: "We should put it on the DS so we don't have to make good looking graphics!"

Guy 2: "Then we can have it controlled through touching the screen, so that will be EXTRA FUN!"

Guy 3: "OH OH OH! WE SHOULD HAVE A TRADING CARD SYSTEM TOO! BUT INSTEAD OF CARD WE CAN HAVE CHAO!! THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SO ALL OF THE KIDS WILL BE EXCITED THEY GOT THE REFERENCE!!!"

Guy 1: "OMG THATS SUCH AN AWESOME IDEA!"

Guy 2: "We can get a popular game maker to help boost the coolness! We could also make some brand new totally awesome characters and sell their rights to the other company!"

Guy 3: "OMG THAT IDEA IS SO BRILLIANT!"

Guy 1: "Alright, that was an awesome revelation. Brb gatta fap to sum furry hentai l8r"



Regardless, I think I might get the game anyhow.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: SnakeClock on September 24, 2008, 02:35:41 PM
You DO know that Sonic Chronicles was announced in 2006 before the Virtual Console was really anything, right?  

You didn't? Then shut up. And also you are assuming that Bioware, the developers, are a group of uncreative shills that Sega got on for developer recognition, similar to how Lucasarts put them on for Knights of the Old Republic. Kindly shoot yourself.

The Chaos sound more like the badges in Paper Mario than trading cards to me, and they worked out fine. But whatever.

I'm looking forward to it, though, if only to see how they could mess it up. It probably won't be in the obvious ways you outlined, though.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: satan will destroy you on September 24, 2008, 02:37:40 PM
sonic is rotted to the core

bite and thy shall taste
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: SnakeClock on September 24, 2008, 02:41:25 PM
Quote from: satan will destroy you;1410199sonic is rotted to the core

bite and thy shall taste

Sonic was always a creature of marketing. When you remove the element of the half-decent gameplay, that makes it doubly bad. :(
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: WreckingBallClock on September 24, 2008, 02:45:02 PM
Quote from: SnakeClock;1410196You DO know that Sonic Chronicles was announced in 2006 before the Virtual Console was really anything, right?  

You didn't? Then shut up. And also you are assuming that Bioware, the developers, are a group of uncreative shills that Sega got on for developer recognition. Kindly shoot yourself.

The Chaos sound more like the badges in Paper Mario than trading cards to me, and they worked out fine. But whatever.

I'm looking forward to it, though.

-You collect and trade Chao online. That would mean its like baseball cards.
-I never said that Bioware wasn't great, they've done some nice stuff. I'm just saying this seems to mimic the entire thing that happened with Super Mario RPG, and it'll probably end up like a wannabe.
-Pardon me for not knowing it was in E3 2006. It had said it was the best rpg game of e3 2008.  That one was my bad.

It looks nice, but I just highly doubt it can really surface as a good game. There's just so much that could go wrong, and more that looks like is going wrong, it's hard to get really excited about it. It still feels like it was a remake of Super Mario RPG, when they should have made Super Mario RPG 2 instead. Not only that, its that Sega's recent Sonic games have been shooting out at us, it's hard to say which one could be good. There that "Unleased" title they are supposed to be working on, and that stupid Sonic-Gots-A-Sword game they spit out... I've lost a lot of faith in Sega, so they're going to need more than just a few cruddy videos to tell me how good this game might be.

Has anyone watched any of those? Pretty pitiful, really. They explained how Sonic will be more like an RPG, by telling us what an RPG is. "There will be things called "Healthnuts", that will replenish your health meter." Well, one would assume so.

And hasn't Sega tried to make an RPG before? I think Bioware is a little more than just a "Oh sure, we'd love to help you with this RPG".
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: Poltergeist on September 24, 2008, 03:18:39 PM
I thought it looked okay

Turns out it isn't. Dang.


Also anyone else think that a Donkey Kong RPG would just feel so right?
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: peyoteclock on September 24, 2008, 03:36:20 PM
forget that it's sonic, bioware rpg on the ds, i'm sold.

kotor, mass effect, BALDUR'S GATE, neverwinter nights, they have an amazing track record with rpgs, i have 100% faith in them, quit being a whiny fan boy, the game is going to be good, even if it is sonic.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: Il Duce on September 24, 2008, 04:07:40 PM
Gametrailers guy: THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BEST DS GAME OF 2008 BECAUSE BIOWARE IS MAKING IT
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: WreckingBallClock on September 24, 2008, 06:00:34 PM
Sure, BioWare makes wonderful things. But obviously you haven't seen how bad Sonic can make something.

I like werewolves less because Sega thought Sonic would be cool as a werewolf.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: Breamcast on September 24, 2008, 06:00:56 PM
I actually like how the new sonic games are looking like:

Sonic unleashed (even the werehog parts) look  fun.

Sonic Chronicles looks decent.

and you know what?

Sonic and the black knight looks pretty cool as well.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: coalclock on September 24, 2008, 06:02:38 PM
Quote from: Drake Bell;1410291Sure, BioWare makes wonderful things. But obviously you haven't seen how bad Sonic can make something.

I dislike werewolves less because Sega thought Sonic would be cool as a werewolf.

Shut up
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: TequilaClock on September 24, 2008, 06:22:40 PM
Quote from: Drake Bell;1410291Sure, BioWare makes wonderful things. But obviously you haven't seen how bad Sonic can make something.

I dislike werewolves less because Sega thought Sonic would be cool as a werewolf.
Dude... no, nevermind.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK on September 24, 2008, 07:08:51 PM
Eggman is referred to as Dr Robotnik in this game I hear. That's enough to warrant a purchase.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: Kombucha on September 24, 2008, 07:21:00 PM
Sonic is Sonic in this game I hear. That's enough to warrant no purchase but perhaps looks of disgust from me as I walk through the electronics section at the store.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: MasterClock on September 24, 2008, 07:51:52 PM
I've heard this is basically Super Mario RPG but with Sonic Characters.  Sounds neat.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: TequilaClock on September 24, 2008, 10:42:28 PM
Quote from: MasterClock;1410406I've heard this is basically Super Mario RPG but with Sonic Characters.  Sounds neat.
I've heard it got a little of Elite Beat Agents style too
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: SnakeClock on September 24, 2008, 11:47:05 PM
Quote from: Poltergeisty;1410216I thought it looked okay

Turns out it isn't. Dang.[/I]

78% on Game Rankings is pretty good in my book. IGN are a bunch of wankers anyway.

Quote from: Drake Bell;1410291Sure, BioWare makes wonderful things. But obviously you haven't seen how bad Sonic can make something.

I like werewolves less because Sega thought Sonic would be cool as a werewolf.

You deserve a slap. :facepalm:
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK on September 24, 2008, 11:51:57 PM
The werewolf game was originally sonic adventure 3, it might be good.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: Flounderpa on September 24, 2008, 11:54:35 PM
Quote from: TequilaClock;1410588I've heard it got a little of Elite Beat Agents style too
If it's an RPG I might just skip it,but add an action elements to the RPG and I might buy it
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: SnakeClock on September 24, 2008, 11:54:40 PM
Quote from: FloundermanClock;1410644The werewolf game was originally sonic adventure 3, it might be good.

:suicide:

It will at least be better than that shit-biscuit that was Sonic the Hedgehog for the PS3. I bet they made it to lower our expectations for this one.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK on September 24, 2008, 11:59:41 PM
I've yet to play Sonic The Hedgehog, it seemed awesome until I heard the reviews. I imagine it's better than sonic heroes at least?
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: SnakeClock on September 25, 2008, 12:00:17 AM
Quote from: FloundermanClock;1410654I've yet to play Sonic The Hedgehog, it seemed awesome until I heard the reviews. I imagine it's better than sonic heroes at least?

Alarmingly enough, no. Shitty voice acting is still better than randomly falling through the ground. :mad:
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: TequilaClock on September 25, 2008, 12:01:20 AM
Quote from: HazardClock;1410647If it's an RPG I might just skip it,but add an action elements to the RPG and I might buy it
Cash or charge?

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Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: Asshatclock on September 25, 2008, 02:17:36 AM
Uhm isn't sonic about speed ? how can you make that an rpg ?

also lol. sonic.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: SnakeClock on September 25, 2008, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: Asshatclock;1410693Uhm isn't sonic about speed ? how can you make that an rpg ?

also lol. sonic.

Well how could you make a platformer with a "rescue the princess" story into an RPG? Could still work.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: WreckingBallClock on September 25, 2008, 11:35:06 AM
Quote from: TequilaClock;1410658Cash or charge?

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Make Them Feel Your POW Moves.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: Asshatclock on September 25, 2008, 11:56:56 AM
Quote from: SnakeClock;1410804Well how could you make a platformer with a "rescue the princess" story into an RPG? Could still work.

Its not story, its gameplay, the mario rpg's were about jumping, mushrooms and most importantly stars.

Sonic is about getting from point a to point b really fast, with a story that's supposed to be deep or something I have no idea what its about these days.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: Il Duce on September 25, 2008, 03:17:52 PM
Also RUNNING FAST RANDOM ENCOUNTER STOP KILL ENEMIES START RUNNING AGAIN RANDOM ENCOUNTER STOP KILL ENEMIES kind of disrupts the flow.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: Steve on September 25, 2008, 03:19:24 PM
i would in fact pay for a revamped Sonic the hedgehog 2 like i payed for New Super mario bros. instead of this shit
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: hibiscus on October 04, 2008, 12:56:45 AM
I think this explains my thoughts well enough:
(https://clockcrew.net/talk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg114.imageshack.us%2Fimg114%2F8594%2F1218146860293lo3.jpg&hash=595e7c41a9ac2fd7837925ec7cf558ac50cf0463)
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: Marlin Clock on October 04, 2008, 12:58:08 AM
Why??? Why do you post such trivial and moronic things?
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: WreckingBallClock on October 04, 2008, 01:58:01 PM
Quote from: SnakeClock;1410648I bet they made it to lower our expectations for this one.

It seems to have worked on me. I think this game could crash and burn.


EDIT: BTW, that werewolf example was a bad one. Sonic and the Black Knights was something that near killed every future Sonic hope I had in me. That new Sonic thing looks like it could hope to live up to Sonic Adventure 2, but I hated the part about the Werewolf, since thats not why I want a Sonic title.

If either of the games crash and burn, you can probably expect a bump of this thread.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: SnakeClock on October 04, 2008, 02:03:14 PM
Quote from: Zelos Wilder;1417797I think this explains my thoughts well enough:

Heh. :)

Quote from: Drake Bell;1418306It seems to have worked on me. I think this game could crash and burn.

It's been doing pretty well on Metacritic.

Quote from: Drake Bell;1418306EDIT: BTW, that werewolf example was a bad one. Sonic and the Black Knights was something that near killed every future Sonic hope I had in me. That new Sonic thing looks like it could hope to live up to Sonic Adventure 2, but I hated the part about the Werewolf, since thats not why I want a Sonic title.

Would you rather have a werewolf or Cream? ;) And I like how Black Knight is turning out, for reasons unrelated to my expectations of Sonic these days.

Quote from: Drake Bell;1418306If either of the games crash and burn, you can probably expect a bump of this thread.

Oh yes, I'm certainly looking forward to it.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: WreckingBallClock on October 04, 2008, 02:14:01 PM
Quote from: SnakeClock;1418311Would you rather have a werewolf or Cream? ;) And I like how Black Knight is turning out, for reasons unrelated to my expectations of Sonic these days.

Oh well I see your point. Werwolf >>>>> Cream. And I'd actually try Black Knights if it wasn't the pure shame of going to the register and purchasing it.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: hibiscus on October 05, 2008, 10:26:30 PM
Quote from: The Hero of Winds;1417801Why??? Why do you post such trivial and moronic things?
Welcome to the Internet. :p
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: SnakeClock on October 05, 2008, 10:29:22 PM
Quote from: Drake Bell;1418318Oh well I see your point. Werwolf >>>>> Cream. And I'd actually try Black Knights if it wasn't the pure shame of going to the register and purchasing it.

They have these wacky new things called game rentals, not sure if you've heard of them...
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: WreckingBallClock on October 06, 2008, 05:37:21 PM
Quote from: Drake Bell;1418318Oh well I see your point. Werwolf >>>>> Cream. And I'd actually try Black Knights if it wasn't the pure shame of going to the register and renting it.

Alright, I fixed it. I guess I could pony up and walk to Blockbuster and say my little brother wants it or something...
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: Weather Balloon on October 06, 2008, 06:02:07 PM
I'm never interested in any recent Sonic games anyway.
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: SnakeClock on October 06, 2008, 06:06:27 PM
Quote from: Drake Bell;1420217Alright, I fixed it. I guess I could pony up and walk to Blockbuster and say my little brother wants it or something...

Because somebody is totally watching you from behind the Comedy shelf to make sure you're being properly edgy by thinking that Sonic games are shit. :rolleyes:
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: WreckingBallClock on October 21, 2008, 09:51:01 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41831.html

Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllleeeeed iiiiiiiiiiitttt.

Story 6.4
Design 6.3
Gameplay 6.5
Presentation 8.1
Total 6.8
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: Asshatclock on October 22, 2008, 03:20:51 AM
so I just saw that review and what is up with having Robotnik in your party ?
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: SuperAwsome on October 22, 2008, 07:32:59 AM
I loooove Sonic games <3
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: SuperAwsome on October 22, 2008, 07:34:45 AM
btw guis, PLZ VOTE 5 !! my bro made dis and people voted zero on it D:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/465493
Title: Sonic Chronicles
Post by: WreckingBallClock on October 22, 2008, 02:07:12 PM
Quote from: SuperAwsome;1431731btw guis, PLZ VOTE 5 !! my bro made dis and people voted zero on it D:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/465493

Waaaaaaaaaaaat