wants to moderate the clock crew chat room?
Really -- who would be able to idle for a lot of the time in the chat room, and who is familiar with IRC and preferably has experience as an op?
There's already a chat room but those who were offering it to us here have made their own site, so it only seems sensible to get our own. We will have our own IRC server on clockcrew.cc
Everyone in the old chat room can migrate to the new one if they want. I just think it's better if the site has its own chat room. We can't be responsible for how IC wants to run their chat room
This thread isn't about any other website. You seem intent on stirring shit -- I don't actually see where the issue is. If you want to moderate the chat room, say "me please!". If you don't want anyone else except Internet Cult members to moderate it, then fuck off to Internet Cult.
This thread is about our new chat room, not IC's. That's not to say IC members can't be a part of it. Any further attempts at derailment will be deleted.
I've got nothing against individual members in the clock crew -- in fact I find all this very tedious and I'm just looking to encourage a community that doesn't clump in groups and leave people out.
I'm not intent on tearing apart the clock crew, as you like to suggest. I just want clockcrew.cc to be responsible for its own chat room, to be able to stop unfair/illegal behaviour, and to ensure stability. I want everyone to be able to use it, not just Internet Cult users who run it like a mafia.
The current IRC is pretty solid imo. I'm in it all the time and its cool. I dont think the fact that another site is sponsoring it should make a difference. Everyone goes there another one would just confuse things.
We don't like the way the forum is run, we'll break off and create our own.
We don't like the way the chat is run, we'll break off and create our own.
Quote from: CadillacClock;1426637O' Leek, you are the king of contradictions. Like I said, even Marlin can make it in the chat. It's not that hard and it's not that bad. I'm not going to sway your opinion though. Do whatever you want, without consequence of thought.
Oh Cadillac, king of selective memory for the purpose of shit stirring.
Quote from: GreyClock;1426626We don't like the way the forum is run, we'll break off and create our own.
We don't like the way the chat is run, we'll break off and create our own.
Guess what all the operators in the current chat have been so for years. We did not create our own chat, it has been like this for years with the same people.
To me it seems like Leek just wants to purge the old operators and old members from the chat to form a new one in his image. So I guess that it is Leek who doesn't like the way things are run and wants to create his own.
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1426653Guess what all the operators in the current chat have been so for years. We did not create our own chat, it has been like this for years with the same people.
Replace "chat" with "forum," apply to Cadillac's, Patriot's and your own arguments and think back to like three quarters of a year ago.
Quote from: GreyClock;1426656Replace "chat" with "forum," apply to Cadillac's, Patriot's and your own arguments and think back to like three quarters of a year ago.
I have nothing to do with the running of IC or the chat.
I just said I do not really think adding another chat is necessary and that I think it's a bit divisive.
Quote from: GreyClock;1426656Replace "chat" with "forum," apply to Cadillac's, Patriot's and your own arguments and think back to like three quarters of a year ago.
I don't even know what you mean by this? Normal sentences please.
I like that this is how you guys thank Rabid for paying the hosting of the chat.
Quote from: PatriotClock;1426658I just said I do not really think adding another FORUM is necessary and that I think it's a bit divisive.
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Quote from: GreyClock;1426661.
Oh I get it now. Clever. So you agree that adding another chat is not necessary.
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1426662Oh I get it now. Clever. So you agree that adding another chat is not necessary.
Can't say that I particularly care, I just have a thing for pointing out irony.
DONT BAN ME LEEK
Quote from: GreyClock;1426664Can't say that I particularly care, I just have a thing for pointing out irony.
DONT BAN ME LEEK
I guess it is pretty ironic!
we dont need another chatroom.. the chat is fine as it is.
The point here, as I understand it, is we don't want to risk the chat server being taken down if we run into some drama in the future, BitClock-style, or hell, even just due to people not keeping up on payments, like Olskoo did with .CC (or most recently IC.org's domain), so we want to ensure that by having our own chat server, especially since it doesn't cost us anything to set up. We're not so concerned (well, Leek is a little concerned) about how the current ops have been operating the chat, and probably almost without exception the current ops can just request to be op'ed on the new server and get it.
I hang out in #internetcult everyday and know my way around IRC channels I'd like to help in anyway I can
:facepalm: Why all the fighting? Damn it, it's so frustrating.
Quote from: CadillacClock;1426637O' Leek, you are the king of contradictions. Like I said, even Marlin can make it in the chat.
:confused: What does that mean?
we don't actually need this. The chat as it is now is a natural progression, and wasn't forced, and no one was fighting it, because it was what people wanted.
the IC is different, the ClockCrew was slowly changing from a wild and crazy group of silly people, into an indie artist's colony; because that's what leek wanted. Instead of starting a different group, or finding one that fits to his parameters, he changes this one.
This IRC action by leek isn't just an attempt to centralize the server set-up, it's an insult. What leek has done, is show that he doesn't even respect the old guard's opinion to the point of removing them.
Leek, what you are doing, isn't right, if you want an indie community, start one, you'll get some membership in it, even some people that wouldn't join the clock crew.
Quote from: billiardball9;1426733What does that mean?
he means that he lets almost anyone in, while simultaneously saying he doesn't respect you.
I think it would help if people start from "There is going to be a new IRC chat" as a fact. Leek isn't asking who thinks it's necessary, he's looking for people capable of operating it.
Quote from: Update(<);1426766I think it would help if people start from "There is going to be a new IRC chat" as a fact. Leek isn't asking who thinks it's necessary, he's looking for people capable of operating it.
all the people able to properly run an IRC are the IC people, lol.
Can I be IRC op please ^w^?
Quote from: Shana;1426774Can I be IRC op please ^w^?
You are not qualified
Quote from: SageClock;1426727We're not so concerned (well, Leek is a little concerned) about how the current ops have been operating the chat, and probably almost without exception the current ops can just request to be op'ed on the new server and get it.
How can he be concerned when he has never been in the chat? It has been run the same way it has for years and there have never been any real problems. The channel has always been a fun place etc.
If you guys decide to still get a new server good luck finding people that know as much about IRC and operating it as the current ops.
I don't see why the current ops are so fed up with this, considering they're basically getting first dibs on op statuses dssdqfqsd
Quote from: PowerGloveClock;1426730I hang out in #internetcult everyday and know my way around IRC channels I'd like to help in anyway I can
Just because you are in IRC everyday doesn't mean you are qualified. By that logic Boston should be an op I see him about everyday
Quote from: Update(<);1426777I don't see why the current ops are so fed up with this, considering they're basically getting first dibs on op statuses dssdqfqsd
Because we don't see the need to op two servers?
I kinda lost intrest in the chat after they took over the flash acadamy some things with ZL. Not that I'm against IC, it just seems like elitism has been at an all time lately.
edit edit: but yeah, getting another irc would be pretty nice, i'd love to help out in any way I could
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1426781Because we don't see the need to op two servers?
I thought it was obvious the original server wouldn't be used anymore.
Quote from: Update(<);1426790I thought it was obvious the original server wouldn't be used anymore.
Leek doesn't control the current IRC and it would not go away.
Quote from: PolyhedronClock;1426787I kinda lost intrest in the chat after they took over the flash acadamy some things with ZL. Not that I'm against IC, it just seems like elitism has been at an all time lately.
edit: I'd like to try giving the IRC a go. I've been idling there every now and then, and would love to contribute to it.
FYI we never took over the flash academy and it is still held every Sunday(if I am not mistaken)
Quote from: Update(<);1426790I thought it was obvious the original server wouldn't be used anymore.
You mean the original server that we pay for? Why would we stop using it when we pay for it?
Quote from: PatriotClock;1426792Leek doesn't control the current IRC and it would not go away.
Nothing would change for the ops
or the people, but the chat would be more affiliated with the CC.
I really don't see why this is such a big deal.
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1426796You mean the original server that we pay for? Why would we stop using it when we pay for it?
isn't the server rented, meaning you could stop paying for it?
(this is actually a question, not trying to come over cocky or something)
Quote from: PatriotClock;1426779Just because you are in IRC everyday doesn't mean you are qualified. By that logic Boston should be an op I see him about everyday
really, when is boston in #internetcult? I never have seen him there.
Quote from: PowerGloveClock;1426798really, when is boston in #internetcult? I never have seen him there.
Magic8Ball just last night
Quote from: Update(<);1426797Nothing would change for the ops or the people, but the chat would be more affiliated with the CC.
I really don't see why this is such a big deal.
isn't the server rented, meaning you could stop paying for it?
(this is actually a question, not trying to come over cocky or something)
Why would we stop paying for it? And if nothing would change why would we need to get a new server? This was the clockcrew server originally you know. We just decided to also add a #internetcult on the server, I can't help it that #internetcult has more people and is more active that #clockcrew.
Quote from: CadillacClock;1426616So, by creating Internet Cult I am no longer considered a valid and responsible member of the Clock Crew? A website that was endorsed by ClockCrew.cc administrators? The chat is run by members of the Clock Crew and prior to our many disagreements the chat, the radio, and the Clock Crew academy were fine being run by there respective members. I guess the titles "orderly queue" might have more to say more about this than you would like to admit.
give it a rest already
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1426801I can't help it that #internetcult has more people and is more active that #clockcrew.
you mean other than redirecting anyone who enters #clockcrew to #internetcult?
from Cad
Quote from: Update(<1426807you mean other than redirecting anyone who enters #clockcrew to #internetcult?
They are not redirected. That was a temporary shtick initiated by Clam.
Quote from: Update(<);1426807you mean other than redirecting anyone who enters #clockcrew to #internetcult?
How long has it been since you've been in the chat? 100 years?
okay so maybe that's fixed, whatever
I just don't see why everyone is getting so worked up about, obviously Leek is only trying to do good.
This thread is not about whether or not we should have the separate chat, because we are getting one. So shut the fuck up and stay on task.
Quote from: CraisinClock;1426837This thread is not about whether or not we should have the separate chat, because we are getting one. So shut the fuck up and stay on task.
this is more important, who gets to moderate matters less than whether or not it should exist.
Quote from: Update(<);1426820okay so maybe that's fixed, whatever
I just don't see why everyone is getting so worked up about, obviously Leek is only trying to do good.
that's the thing, did you read my post earlier? that's actually wrong; what leek did is an insult.
Okay this is really dumb
The people who run the chat have been here a long time, I'm pretty sure they aren't about to pull a BitClock, who was inexperienced and ill tempered. The fact that they made a new forum because they didn't like the way you run things isn't a good reason to cut them off entirely.
Not to be a nerd or anything, but I see a lot of historic parallels here...
I think chat mods shouldn't have the ability to permaban people from all of the IRC. A lot of people get banned for random bullshit in the chatroom and thus are unable to do CCA and whatnot.
Quote from: Blackmagic;1426853I think chat mods shouldn't have the ability to permaban people from all of the IRC. A lot of people get banned for random bullshit in the chatroom and thus are unable to do CCA and whatnot.
Bullshit.
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1426855Bullshit.
From what I heard, one of the oracle bots kicked/banned a member during the CCA, and everyone in #internetcult started to have their discussion in the #clockcrewacademy. ZombieLincoln asked them to carry on their conversation while everyone else was doing the CCA, untill something went down and a mod tookover the academy, making the first drawing thread satirizing ZL.
Quote from: FloppyDisk Clock;1426861hey unban me so I can do CCA ;D
just join #clockcrewacademy or #clock crew there's a few of us there
Quote from: PolyhedronClock;1426858From what I heard, one of the oracle bots kicked/banned a member during the CCA, and everyone in #internetcult started to have their discussion in the #clockcrewacademy. ZombieLincoln asked them to carry on their conversation while everyone else was doing the CCA, untill something went down and a mod tookover the academy, making the first drawing thread satirizing ZL.
They only do that to protect the channel from cyclers. That is people that join and rejoin a certain amount of times in a a period of time. Like when someone parts and joins 4 times in 10 seconds they get kicked and banned for 2 minutes.
Quote from: PowerGloveClock;1426866just join #clockcrewacademy or #clock crew there's a few of us there
Except you can't do that if you've been banned from all the chatrooms.
Malicious users get banned from the server, just like they get banned from these forums. Get over it.
The only people banned are like Floppy and Cat and both for great great reasons.
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1426873Malicious users get banned from the server, just like they get banned from these forums. Get over it.
Emphasis on random bullshit. Maybe you give a great shit about people you don't like not being able to use the chats, but I really don't, and while we're still sharing the medium of the IRC with the normal chats it would be just peachy if you kept your group politics out of the site functionality.
Quote from: Blackmagic;1426875Emphasis on random bullshit. Maybe you give a great shit about people you don't like not being able to use the chats, but I really don't, and while we're still sharing the medium of the IRC with the normal chats it would be just peachy if you kept your group politics out of the site functionality.
Floppydisk got banned many times before Internetcult was even formed in case you didn't know Floppy has always been a troll. My group politics have nothing to do with this. Things have been the same in the chat for years, without complaints. Suddenly Leek decides he needs a new chat, without ever coming into the chat, and everyone starts bitching and moaning. Guess what, most of the people that are bitching in this chat I have never seen in the chat. My group politics have nothing to do with anything because the same people have been operating the chat for years you ignorant fuck.
Also good job stealing Blackmagic's name.
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1426879Floppydisk got banned many times before Internetcult was even formed in case you didn't know Floppy has always been a troll. My group politics have nothing to do with this. Things have been the same in the chat for years, without complaints. Suddenly Leek decides he needs a new chat, without ever coming into the chat, and everyone starts bitching and moaning. Guess what, most of the people that are bitching in this chat I have never seen in the chat. My group politics have nothing to do with anything because the same people have been operating the chat for years you ignorant fuck.
Also good job stealing Blackmagic's name.
I'm not even talking about FloppyDisk, by the way, and way to go not getting the point of the name change.
Oh hey look another IC/CC shitfest!
*yawn*
You are all fucking idiots.
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1426870They only do that to protect the channel from cyclers. That is people that join and rejoin a certain amount of times in a a period of time. Like when someone parts and joins 4 times in 10 seconds they get kicked and banned for 2 minutes.
It still doesn't cover the fact that most of the people in the chatroom at the time were acting like total assholes, completely ignoring the fact that the acadamy was going on and continuing with whatever-they-were-talking-about at the time, despite ZL being a very polite gent about it. It's just one occaison on how the InternetCult, a site that constantly says that they're doing their own thing when they constantly try to drag it over here, does things.
Quote from: PolyhedronClock;1426890CCA
Flounderman's CCA is the only one to have ever been interfered with. At times Clam has fucked around with the CCA but never anything out of control that ZL cannot put order to. Besides that, I have no idea what you are talking about.
I for one think the IC chat holds some of the best conversations I've ever had.
Albeit since half the people there are aggressive atheists I've had my share of bad conversations, but those have been less occurring in the last few months.
I don't think this new chat should be opened.
Quote from: Whale;1426893Flounderman's CCA is the only one to have ever been interfered with. At times Clam has fucked around with the CCA but never anything out of control that ZL cannot put order to. Besides that, I have no idea what you are talking about.
ZombieLincoln had a nice comic theme going on with the academy, untill someone changed the thread to something along the lines of "What do you think ZombieLincoln is doing now that so-and-so", followed by a few topics about Triangle. It's pretty easy to tell where his acadamy got highjacked from
here.
Quote from: PolyhedronClock;1426896ZombieLincoln had a nice comic theme going on with the academy, untill someone changed the thread to something along the lines of "What do you think ZombieLincoln is doing now that so-and-so", followed by a few topics about Triangle. It's pretty easy to tell where his acadamy got highjacked from here.
As I recall, people were making Clam/Triangle Comics during ZombieLincolns activity. Upon which, ZL made no effort to change the topics further. Which, I assumed was because he didn't care to or because the CCA would have been over in just a few minutes anyways. There was also noting Internet Cult related in those discussions either.
edit: The topics were changed based on what people yelled out after Zombie Lincoln had left. Not surprisingly these included the gay-sex with Clam and "I wonder what ZL is doing without us".
Quote from: PolyhedronClock;1426896ZombieLincoln had a nice comic theme going on with the academy, untill someone changed the thread to something along the lines of "What do you think ZombieLincoln is doing now that so-and-so", followed by a few topics about Triangle. It's pretty easy to tell where his acadamy got highjacked from here.
The topic was made that after ZL had been inactive well past the deadline he set. It was set by Cad or someone to keep things going. No one hijacked anything. ZL went MIA and someone stepped up and finished the academy for him I fail to see how that is a bad thing at all.
Make me admin of the IC IRC.
Quote from: Peggey Hill;1426904Make me admin of the IC IRC.
Sure.
You're all acting like Leek's forcing you to shut down your IRC. He's not. He's only giving users another option. If your IRC is as good as you all say it is, then you have nothing to worry about, right? People will still just go there, instead of to the new one?
Quote from: LeekClock;1426602wants to moderate the clock crew chat room?
Really -- who would be able to idle for a lot of the time in the chat room, and who is familiar with IRC and preferably has experience as an op?
There's already a chat room but those who were offering it to us here have made their own site, so it only seems sensible to get our own. We will have our own IRC server on clockcrew.cc
Me totaly me me me me me I don't care how much people hate me!!! I need that man!!! Oh that is a good idea for a mod forum.
Quote from: Magic8Ball;1427018Me totaly me me me me me I don't care how much people hate me!!! I need that man!!! Oh that is a good idea for a mod forum.
no
Quote from: GreyClock;1426932He's only giving users another option.
HMM HAVE I HEARD THIS BEFORE?
Anyone that went to IC that gets bent out of shape about this is a major idiot.
I only join the chat to whine about how mean Leek is. I always feel welcomed. _poogle_
Also my complaint has nothing to do with problems with Internet Cult or whatever. I just don't see a reason why anyone except admins from either site (or just this site, I guess, since IC exploded) should be given chat privileges to the point of being able to ban someone from the CCA or even CCR chats, because the chats aren't separated by mere discussion topics, but completely distinct functionality. It doesn't seem reasonable that a ban that is essentially from the chat community should affect one's ability to use unrelated functions held by the chat. By the same logic that someone banned from the chat shouldn't be automatically banned from the forum, and vice versa.
oh this is so stupid
think about what you're wasting your time arguing about... whether or not another IRC forum goes up...
Draw a picture
Make a flash
Drink some beer
fuck a bitch
make it rain
DO IT NOW
Quote from: Blackmagic;1427313Also my complaint has nothing to do with problems with Internet Cult or whatever. I just don't see a reason why anyone except admins from either site (or just this site, I guess, since IC exploded) should be given chat privileges to the point of being able to ban someone from the CCA or even CCR chats, because the chats aren't separated by mere discussion topics, but completely distinct functionality. It doesn't seem reasonable that a ban that is essentially from the chat community should affect one's ability to use unrelated functions held by the chat. By the same logic that someone banned from the chat shouldn't be automatically banned from the forum, and vice versa.
You really are a complete idiot aren't you? The people that are running the IRC were operators there BEFORE the current admins of
clockcrew.cc became admins. Not only that but CCR is also paid for by internetcult. Not that that matters. And yes, someone banned from the chat shouldn't be banned from the forum and vice versa, which is why this doesn't happen. When people get banned from the server(most always temporarily) it is done for a good reason. I don't really see what you are getting pissed off about cause you are never in the chat and seem to be thoroughly misinformed.
EDIT:
You say that someone shouldn't get banned form the entire server just for being malicious in 1 chatroom. That is like saying someone shouldn't be banned from the whole forum for spamming goatse, just from the board he spammed. Most of the time the bans are only on one room, but some people need server bans.
I tried to go to the chat using mIRC and apparently I am permanently banned =( I havn't even been there in months
Quote from: FloppyDisk Clock;1427445Its because you use the same ISP and live near me.
it's fixed now. not much happening in there.
Someone remind me, why do ICers get a say in whether .cc can get an IRC server?
Because to me IC was all about seperation of .cc, but now IC is telling .cc not to get a server of their own?
Sounds pretty fucking hypocritical to me.
Quote from: Update(<);1427484Someone remind me, why do ICers get a say in whether .cc can get an IRC server?
Because to me IC was all about seperation of .cc, but now IC is telling .cc not to get a server of their own?
Sounds pretty fucking hypocritical to me.
Hi I am UpdateClock and I did not read the beginning of the thread at all, nor do I understand what is going on, but I still try to talk with the big boys!
The reason is that because some of the operators are IC members as well, which Leek does not like(apparently). Just because some of the operators also visit another site doesn't mean they aren't allowed to speak up. Also there are hundreds of people on .cc with their own sites and forums, I don't see anyone whining about that.
The real hypocritical thing is that first people are bitching that OH YOU SHOULDNT MAKE INTERNETCULT ITS WRONG TO MAKE ANOTHER FORUM etc. And now Leek wants to separate the chat. But Grey already pointed that out and you should learn to read threads Update.
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1427497Hi I am UpdateClock and I did not read the beginning of the thread at all, nor do I understand what is going on, but I still try to talk with the big boys!
I didn't drag IC and .cc into this, you guys did
The question is not if there should be a seperation, the question is who is willing to op the new chat.
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1427497The reason is that because some of the operators are IC members as well, which Leek does not like(apparently). Just because some of the operators also visit another site doesn't mean they aren't allowed to speak up.
okay so where did Leek state that the current ops aren't allowed to apply
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1427497The real hypocritical thing is that first people are bitching that OH YOU SHOULDNT MAKE INTERNETCULT ITS WRONG TO MAKE ANOTHER FORUM etc.
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1427497Also there are hundreds of people on .cc with their own sites and forums, I don't see anyone whining about that.
hmm
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1427497But Grey already pointed that out and you should learn to read threads Update.
Yeah I saw Grey pointed that out, but no-one really seemed to notice, so I decided to stress it. Just like Craisin posted what the original question of Leek was, eventhough I posted almost exactly the same before him. I don't see you bitching about it to him.
oh wait, that's because Craisin is important and I'm not, right
I didn't even knew the IRC was that active in the first place, I should check it out more often.
Quote from: Update(<);1427500oh wait, that's because Craisin is important and I'm not right
At least you got one thing straight.
Quote from: GreyClock;1426932You're all acting like Leek's forcing you to shut down your IRC. He's not. He's only giving users another option. If your IRC is as good as you all say it is, then you have nothing to worry about, right? People will still just go there, instead of to the new one?
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Quote from: Update(<);1427484Someone remind me, why do ICers get a say in whether .cc can get an IRC server?
Because to me IC was all about seperation of .cc, but now IC is telling .cc not to get a server of their own?
Sounds pretty fucking hypocritical to me.
If it was about separation clearly we would've stopped coming here. You are clearly uninformed. CLEARLY
Quote from: GreyClock;1427505.
flip flop
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1427497The real hypocritical thing is that first people are bitching that OH YOU SHOULDNT MAKE INTERNETCULT ITS WRONG TO MAKE ANOTHER FORUM etc. And now Leek wants to separate the chat. But Grey already pointed that out and you should learn to read threads Update.
Good job at conveniently disregarding more than half of my argument. (The Internet Cult users "bitching" about Leek's chat are just as hypocritical.)
And yeah, you're right, I'm the one flip flopping by going from not caring about chat in one post, to attempting to diffuse the situation by applying simple logic three pages on. As opposed to the 180 degree turn most of you have made, which was my whole point to begin with, right? Oh boy!
Maybe you can manage to answer my simple question now: what are you all so worried about? Afraid that your IRC just doesn't cut it? Clearly some of us, including myself, overestimated the Internet Cult forums in the beginning, maybe now you guys are overestimating this new chat? (Or you can choose to keep deflecting it forever.)
come on everyone chill out
Moderate you say?
ITT: Everyone becomes a moderator.
Quote from: GreyClock;1427536Maybe you can manage to answer my simple question now: what are you all so worried about? Afraid that your IRC just doesn't cut it? Clearly some of us, including myself, overestimated the Internet Cult forums in the beginning, maybe now you guys are overestimating this new chat? (Or you can choose to keep deflecting it forever.)
No we are not afraid that the chat won't cut it. It just seemed appropriate to respond to Leek making a new chat the same way people responded to Internetcult.
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1427429Not that that matters.
Yes, it doesn't.
QuoteI don't really see what you are getting pissed off about cause you are never in the chat and seem to be thoroughly misinformed.
So to have the authority to criticize you need to be better than what you're criticizing? I see a flaw in the system, and I'm telling you how I think it can be mended.
QuoteThat is like saying someone shouldn't be banned from the whole forum for spamming goatse, just from the board he spammed.
No, because as I explained the chat rooms are not separate discussion categories for the larger chat community, they're completely exclusive functions. And if someone really needs to be banned from all the chat rooms, then obviously they'd have been individually banned from all the chat rooms by one of that chat's mods. There's no way I can see, except in the case of a bot or the like, for a mod banning someone from the whole server because of offenses within their chat to be considered anything but overreaching.
Quote from: Blackmagic;1427782No, because as I explained the chat rooms are not separate discussion categories for the larger chat community, they're completely exclusive functions. And if someone really needs to be banned from all the chat rooms, then obviously they'd have been individually banned from all the chat rooms by one of that chat's mods. There's no way I can see, except in the case of a bot or the like, for a mod banning someone from the whole server because of offenses within their chat to be considered anything but overreaching.
How much experience do you have with IRC and operating a server?
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1427824How much experience do you have with IRC and operating a server?
I certainly know my way around an IRC chat, thank you very much. My opinion is logical and you know it, stop trying to disqualify me for personal reasons.
Quote from: Blackmagic;1427962I certainly know my way around an IRC chat, thank you very much. My opinion is logical and you know it, stop trying to disqualify me for personal reasons.
I have nothing against you as a person, it's just that your "logic" is flawed.
jesus christ this is a ridiculous thread
lol why would you want your own server for one chat room without any of its regulars? Oh well. Hey, I'll op it. :D
Yeh i'll op it. thatd be fun
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1428041I have nothing against you as a person, it's just that your "logic" is flawed.
Give me one good reason you need to be able to ban someone from the server, instead of banning them on a chatroom-by-chatroom basis.
Quote from: Blackmagic;1428410Give me one good reason you need to be able to ban someone from the server, instead of banning them on a chatroom-by-chatroom basis.
I'm a server operator and my job is to keep the server shit free and running smoothly. You fail to see that some people just join the chats for trolling, and if they continuously do this we will ban them from the server.
You act like we server ban everyone for nothing, when in reality we currently only have like two people banned from the server.
Arguements are fun!
Leek the server I paid for is for use by the clockcrew, I never dedicated the IRC server to IC only use and I don't see the point of changing servers yet again. Besides the usual crowd it's only used for CCA which the current staff has been nothing but accommodating to.
I really don't know why I bother my time and money with this group because it always ends up tearing itself apart and shitting on the people who seem to actually care.
Quote from: Franklin G. Hamilton;1428550this is true. ask zl how many times ive removed permabans to accommodate the academy (i even removed a floppy ban one time!!)
You sir are a saint
Didn't you ban me from the academy the moment I joined the last time?
i guess i'd be up for oping it, i can't guarantee that i would hang around very long, but i'm here
Quote from: Franklin G. Hamilton;1428643i dont remember but you probably deserved it
I joined, cadillac said "look who it is", you said "a faggot", I got banned.
Quote from: Peggey Hill;1428646I joined, cadillac said "look who it is", you said "a faggot", I got banned.
haha
Quote from: Franklin G. Hamilton;1428654[00:05:17] CadillacClock: Clam
[00:05:23] CadillacClock: I remember when we kicked Flounder
[00:05:30] CadillacClock: and it was him who said A FAGGOT if I'm not mistaken
gonna trust cad on this one
Nope, after you said "a faggot" I said "lol gay" or something.
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1428419I'm a server operator and my job is to keep the server shit free and running smoothly.
Not a reason.
QuoteYou fail to see that some people just join the chats for trolling, and if they continuously do this we will ban them from the server.
If they continuously do it you can ban them from that chat in particular and it will work just as well. And if they do it on the other chats obviously they'll be banned from there, too.
Quote from: Blackmagic;1428686Not a reason.
If they continuously do it you can ban them from that chat in particular and it will work just as well. And if they do it on the other chats obviously they'll be banned from there, too.
Hurfadurf keeping shit running smoothly is not a reason!
Don't tell me how to do my job, I never see you in the chat anyway.
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1428753Hurfadurf keeping shit running smoothly is not a reason!
No, it's not a reason for what I asked a reason for. And it's certainly not a reason for doing everything, so you don't really have a point there.
And contrary to apparently universal believe, I do in fact come into the chat every now and then. Actually once pretty recently, not that anyone was in there at the time.
Quote from: Blackmagic;1429089Actually once pretty recently, not that anyone was in there at the time.
Proof that you don't spend much time in the chat
Quote from: RabidZombieLincoln;1429127Proof that you don't spend much time in the chat
I didn't say I spend a
lot of time in there, because by no means do I, but it's not like I never do.
Quote from: Franklin G. Hamilton;1429139did you come in at like 2am-noon because yea no one is going to be there when we're at school or work or doing something else that isnt on the internet
This. Also it doesn't show in my logs.
In regards to the CCA:
The times it fell apart were my fault.
I don't like the idea of people serverbanned being unable to attend - though as Triangle said, he's been willing to unban people so they could attend the academy.
So I suppose there could be an occasion where someone who genuinely wants to participate is serverbanned and there are no ops online to unban him. But that's just as likely to happen on a separate chat server unless serverbans are not to be used there.
So the CCA isn't a reason for a new chat.
Quote from: Zombie Lincoln;1429249So the CCA isn't a reason for a new chat.
<3
We already have a chat with good ops that have been there forever. Nobody who actually uses the chat likes this idea.
Sounds pretty dumb, enjoy your empty server.
Quote from: Zombie Lincoln;1429249So I suppose there could be an occasion where someone who genuinely wants to participate is serverbanned and there are no ops online to unban him. But that's just as likely to happen on a separate chat server unless serverbans are not to be used there.
In fact, it'd be far more likely that there'd be serverban problems if you weren't using a private server. I suppose if you're switching from one private server to another that's kind of immaterial though.
let me suggest some operators:
albino
binary
clam
dwarfinator
myself
rabid
vcr
cadillac
Quote from: Joey Jeremiah;1434199let me suggest some operators:
albino
binary
clam
dwarfinator
myself
rabid
vcr
cadillac
miss vcr :(
Quote from: Joey Jeremiah;1434199let me suggest some operators:
Flounderman
Cat
Truncheon
Fixed
Quote from: FloundermanClock;1434213Fixed
I would go to this chat every day.
Quote from: Hannah Montana;1434278ICIRC takes internet far to serious to make it fun, whenever I am in there under a different nick so I don't get banned they just talk about shit(talking is rare btw)
In the past when we was set in other public servers you guys bitched about how the people who was running the network were nazi anti-fun faggots, and by the looks of things your doing the exact same job.
You get banned because you troll Clam and Dwarfinator all the time. What do you expect?
Quotebut all that aside, you shouldnt have a problem if your server is so awesome
It is, so we won't.
Talking isn't rare, maybe you just go in at the times when everyone is sleeping or having a life. Also I haven't banned anyone for saying "lol".
I think I would be a totally pro OP who is with me ^w^d
Quote from: Virgil Tibbs;1434201cadillac
miss vcr :(
oops
+cataractclock
Well I'm sure other people would be better at this with me due to experience, but I have too much spare time if that counts in any way. And by too much spare time, I mean doing nothing on my computer for like 8 hours in a row.
Quote from: Konata Izumi;1434364I think I would be a totally pro OP who is with me ^w^d
lmaooo
Quote from: HitchhikerClock;1434793lmaooo
What's that supposed to mean ;w;
Cat is the most boring troll ever.
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1434858Cat is the most boring troll ever.
ur mom is the most boring troll ever
OH BURNNnnn >w<
Quote from: Konata Izumi;1434924ur mom is the most boring troll ever
OH BURNNnnn >w<
Thanks for reinforcing my statement.
hello, i think DWARFINATOR clock would be a cool mod
Maybe Cat is trying to troll with boredom.
Quote from: AlbinoClock;1434974Maybe Cat is trying to troll with boredom.
I must give you compliments on your sig
I saw "who wants to moderate..." and went :)
I saw "...the chat room." and went :(
me please!
Quote from: can of zap;1436833me please!
Ahahahahahahaha! Hilarious!
Quote from: Franklin G. Hamilton;1439208this new irc is pretty much going to be only this
A testament to your ego that you think that only with your administration can a community function.
Quote from: Fucko;1444509A testament to your ego that you think that only with your administration can a community function.
The new IRC will be like this
[19:24:12] * Animefag^_^ (~bbbbbbbb7@CC-E0B72228.dsl.wchtks.sbcglobal.net) has joined #internetcult
[19:24:21] Animefag^_^: hai gaiz, new lucky star OVA came out yesterday
[19:24:40] FlounderAdmin: There was a new character in it, can't wait for some doujins of her
[19:25:07] EmperorCatClock: ^w^
[19:25:28] KingTruncheon: I already got one, shit was tight yo
[19:26:20] Clam: Can we talk about sports
[ERROR] Closing Link: Clam[VDSL-130-13-146-4.COCK.COMCAST.NET] (User has been banned from CCNet ([FlounderAdmin] desu))
[19:27:16] FlounderAdmin: Those who defy me will know the depth of my cruelty.
make me op im pinaccle of cool