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I just watched the first 2 episodes and I liked them.
I generally dig stories about time traveling anyway. ;) I hope they will execute this well in the course of the season.
Looks like they got rid of the whole flashback/flashforward thing and replaced it with jumping around the 3 different timelines.
Faraday was kinda annoing though, with his smart-ass attitude. And why did Desmond get the memory 3 years later? He should have got it a few days after he left the island, when Faraday met him at the hatch in his timeline, unless the time for the people on the island progresses extremely fast (like the already indicated it in season4?).

i did also enjoy it. i love faraday constantly, i don't care what you say

*Hugo throws a hot pocket at the wall in fear*

goddamn australian tv

Quote from: IceeClock;1505591*Hugo throws a hot pocket at the wall in fear*

I totally cracked up at that scene. :D

Haha this sounds like the most contrived bullshit I've ever heard.

Quote from: Marlix Wright;1505643Haha this sounds like the most contrived bullshit I've ever heard.

I gave up watching it after the third season when it turned out Locke was an alien and the entire second season was a dream by some autistic kid who died on the plane.

Quote from: CadillacClock;1505655Just like Christianity. Enjoy your night, folks.

BOOYAH

Quote from: Marlix Wright;1505643Haha this sounds like the most contrived bullshit I've ever heard.

6 posts without one of these, that's a new record


also i hate Ana Lucia and it was pretty funny to watch her pulling someone over as she's recently gotten in a lot of trouble for violating probation after a DUI

Quote from: Marlix Wright;1505643Haha this sounds like the most contrived bullshit I've ever heard.

I can make people out of clay.

When does this start in England?

Also, Faraday (I think the time-travel scientist) and Desmond are excessively awesome

Quote from: Marlix Wright;1505643Haha this sounds like the most contrived bullshit I've ever heard.

I am my own father and I'm coming down to see you guys whilst still being above you controlling you at the same time and then dying for you but not really then yes really then I'm going into the sky to see myself

Quote from: Poltergeisty;1505917When does this start in England?

Also, Faraday (I think the time-travel scientist) and Desmond are excessively awesome



I am my own father and I'm coming down to see you guys whilst still being above you controlling you at the same time and then dying for you but not really then yes really then I'm going into the sky to see myself

i think it's tonight on sky one

Never seen Lost, maybe I should.

EDIT:
ok watching first episode.

Quote from: CadillacClock;1506043She's hot. Of course, I think Claire is better looking than Kate, so...

ana lucia's ok, her mouth annoys me and is weird. and she's a bitch. claire and kate are both very attractive yes

Sun is the most attractive on the show, not coming from someone with a preference to asians just so ya know

Quote from: CadillacClock;1505638The best part of that episode was Ana Lucia because she is a minx.

Maybe until she starts talking...

I've got a thing for Juliet she is just fjkfafhfhdsaa

but what the fuck charles whitmoore mindfuckkkkk

<3 lost

Wow those were some corny episodes thank God for Faraday!

the revealing of rousseau and her team was quote cool, but not nearly as cool as the aftermath of the smoke monster's attack. i love love loved the conflict on the beach where rousseau is holding her boyfriend at gunpoint and he's defending the island. brilliant

Smoke monster?

Quote from: Marlix Wright;1520365Smoke monster?

it is a fictional show you know

Too bad they killed off Charlotte, she was the most attractive woman in that show after Claire, who they don't even show anymore.

And who agrees with me that Lost would make an excellent Myst-like game?

In order for it to be like myst there would have to be puzzles that could make sense.

Quote from: IndifferentsintheClock;1521403And who agrees with me that Lost would make an excellent Myst-like game?

probably yes, and not some crappy faux-adventure game with repetitive puzzles that's really shit

Quote from: Marlix Wright;1520365Smoke monster?

Omnipotent God?

Quote from: i'm maltese and i am gay;1521648Omnipotent God?

Huh? How do you get omnipotent god out of what we have seen of the monster so far? Ok so we know it loves under a temple right now... but its killing seems senseless. It really doesn't seem to posses any kind of intelligence or knowing. In before you say LOL YAHWEH IS A SENSELESS KILLER TOO.

Quote from: IndifferentsintheClock;1521656Huh? How do you get omnipotent god out of what we have seen of the monster so far? Ok so we know it loves under a temple right now... but its killing seems senseless. It really doesn't seem to posses any kind of intelligence or knowing. In before you say LOL YAHWEH IS A SENSELESS KILLER TOO.

I wasn't saying the monster is god, I'm just saying that marlin saying something is farfetched is a bit ridiculous, because he believes in an Omnipotent God.

but this is unrelated to lost



lost is a bad show.

Lost is not a bad show


Okay maybe it is but I still watch it so shut up I can't help it fuck you

Nonexistence after death?

Quote from: CadillacClock;1521848Hurley is an annoying character and I hope he dies in prison.

What are you kidding me you didn't laugh when  he threw that hot pocket? He is comic relief.

I ahvent watched lost since halfway through series 2

CHRISTIANITY VS LOST BELIEVABILITY BATTLE GO!

Quote from: Ayumu Kasuga;1521996I ahvent watched lost since halfway through series 2

I actually liked season two, the third one was absolutely terrible though, four was pretty good, five is hit and miss so far. I'm just glad they're treating the show like a fantasy now.

Also I really really liked this newest episode, the best we've had in ages.

Is everyone happy with the way the show is heading? I'm going to have to be annoying vague, because I still haven't been able to put my finger on exactly what I find so irksome about this time travel stuff... but does no one else feel it's a little... naff? Another problem, for me, is the motivation for the O6; I just don't buy the fact that they all feel so very guilty, more specifically, that the guilt would ruin Jack's life. The writers make it sound as if they had selfishly sacrificed their fellow lostees for their own rescue, but who did they leave? Locke: dead. Jin: they think died heroically. Juliet: only Jack gives a shit. That leaves Sawyer and... Rose and Bernard. They didn't even willingly sacrifice them (unless I'm misremembering). Going back to the timetravel stuff... the mystical white-haired oracle... the island's magical fate-powers... the ghosts... it just all seems like the kind of sci-fi stock twists that Lost had only hinted at vaguely before, and I thought that the show was above. The way they're letting the characters fly through time you know that the four toed statue will be a lostee who was sent back WAY in time and lost a toe, Adam and Eve will be one of the couples (Bernard and Rose, I suspect), Jacob will be one of the lostees, the smoke monster will be something to do with a lostee... it seems a very glib and unsatisfactory was of tying everything up. I hope that all made sense.

since I feel both Christianity and Lost are both lame do I win?

Quote from: SixShooterClock;1526123since I feel both Christianity and Lost are both lame do I win?

yes, yes you do

you win










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Quote from: CrustClock;1526117Is everyone happy with the way the show is heading? I'm going to have to be annoying vague, because I still haven't been able to put my finger on exactly what I find so irksome about this time travel stuff... but does no one else feel it's a little... naff? Another problem, for me, is the motivation for the O6; I just don't buy the fact that they all feel so very guilty, more specifically, that the guilt would ruin Jack's life. The writers make it sound as if they had selfishly sacrificed their fellow lostees for their own rescue, but who did they leave? Locke: dead. Jin: they think died heroically. Juliet: only Jack gives a shit. That leaves Sawyer and... Rose and Bernard. They didn't even willingly sacrifice them (unless I'm misremembering). Going back to the timetravel stuff... the mystical white-haired oracle... the island's magical fate-powers... the ghosts... it just all seems like the kind of sci-fi stock twists that Lost had only hinted at vaguely before, and I thought that the show was above. The way they're letting the characters fly through time you know that the four toed statue will be a lostee who was sent back WAY in time and lost a toe, Adam and Eve will be one of the couples (Bernard and Rose, I suspect), Jacob will be one of the lostees, the smoke monster will be something to do with a lostee... it seems a very glib and unsatisfactory was of tying everything up. I hope that all made sense.

I'd say give the writers mmore credit than that. I was afraid a good deal of the mysteries would just be "lostee's dunnit via time travel" but I have enough confidence. I feel that Hurley and Jack would be upset over leaving, mainly because Hurley is childishly good-natured and Jack was obsessed with the fact that he was the leader of the group, and it's probably more of a personal failure to him than a let down of the group (absolutely not to say that he doesn't care about them though, I'm sure he does). The time travel thing would be better if it were a tad morre subtle, but as long as it's still handled the way it is right now (more of a plot device than a plot impedence) I feel it will turn out okay. Seriously though, the shows worth watching just for Desmond and Faraday. I also feel the direction has been better the last two seasons, or certainly better than season three at least. I do have to agree with a lot of what you said though, but overall I'm going to give the writers the benefit of the doubt.

It's too bad, I always liked Ben. I hope he doesn't cease to exist. Also what the fuck happened to Faraday?

I haven't seen Faraday after the "3 years after sawyer was part of the Dharma initiative" thing, and I seem to remember him saying something about Faraday not being there anymore.

The last episode I saw was the one the focused main on Jin after the fellas get back. It was a crappy episode, which is a shame as I really like Jin.

ALSO there is the possibility that little ben and big ben will die, we still don't have a resolve to "he's the man that killed me" yet

Ah, what I got was that John was in a seperate timeline from the everyone else. We had a week break in England without any new episodes so I just sorta forgot. :/

Truth drug? What shitty writing. The acting in that scene is cringeworthy, especially the spaced-out hysterics.

Sayid has become such a badly written character - his personality is mercurial; he'll just flip from reticent, philosophical and conscientious, to a cold motherfucking badass, to mr. sensitive; from sadistic fuck to mr. pacifist, and, in that awful Russian-carpark scene; to a clueless moron. That little scene was fucking awful; such bald exposition, and Sayid's character is portrayed as a gormless puppet, dependent on Ben's orders; whereas before he was the only one who saw through Linus' lies. What was so genius about the writing of Locke's character was that he was a mysterious, knife-wielding hunter in the first season, and you really wanted to make him the hero of the thing, but in reality he's a fucking chump. All his life. To be fair, they've kept that aspect of Locke's character consistant, but for all the other characters they seem to have forgotten to have their actions reflect their personalities. Instead this show is now about cliched time travel plot devices.

Quote from: CadillacClock;1546837Well this episode was awesome.



Again, time doesn't work that way.

Secondly, what are you talking about? Locke was in the coffin. Ben killed chilled him. Ben, after attacking Penny, got on the plane with Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid (with Locke in the back). Ben is already back on the island.

Locke has already seen Ben on the island and has chosen not to take his revenge on him. Presumably, he feels that Ben too was just following the prophecies of his death. He's also the leader of the Hostiles (Others) now anyways.

I think what he meant was Ben might die from the injuries sustained in the plane crash

Quote from: CadillacClock;1546757See, it's not hard to follow. There's just some gaps.

I see now. Most of my confusion was based on not remembering things that happened a while ago.

Quote from: CadillacClock;1547026The only decent human being in the whole show is Hurley.

and he's a nutbar

Quote from: Biblo;1548296and he's a nutbar

lol foodpun

I actually kind of liked that episode, better than the last few we've had. I think the actor playing Sayid did a really good job when he shot little ben.

Quote from: ButtplugClock;1549848lol foodpun

maybe I should've said Apollo Bar

Quote from: CadillacClock;1560555Surround Screen Smoke - Playing: Lost reruns.

yeah that was a little dodgy i must say

Quote from: Franklin G. Hamilton;1561448lol azn scientist from the orientation movies is miles dad who didnt see that coming


also calling it now hurley causes the accident that makes them install the computer in the swan

Hurley is the origin of the numbers, he decides the code or whatever, no idea why I didn't think of that as soon as time travel was involved.

Also can we just have some more Faraday episodes please? I'm pretty sure we only care about him and Desmond now.

Also I'm starting to like Jack a little more now as a character.

Quote from: Poltergeisty;1561475Also can we just have some more Faraday episodes please? I'm pretty sure we only care about him and Desmond now.

Are you kidding me.

John n' Ben ones are the best.

Faraday episodes ftw!!

I hadn't thought of the numbers thing, that would make sense on some level. The only snag being Hurley's lottery numbers. Without them it makes sense that they were just a perfectly innocuous serial code that got re-used a few times and due to time travel appeared to be controlling Hurley's life. But the fact that every single lotto number was matched perfectly, it blows it out.

Tangent: About 3 years ago the Irish lotto numbers came out as 4 8 15 16 23 24
I swear that's 100% true. Fucking nuts. The fact that the wrong number is just the right one reversed blows my mind. Unless it was rigged. Then it's just normal :D

Actually, Hurley being the origin of the numbers is the only thing that makes sense, because it would mean his lottery numbers WERE completely random and weren't influenced - he just knew what they were going to be


Wow that doesn't make any sense at all if you're not me. I can't explain it.

Quote from: Franklin G. Hamilton;1561935It doesnt make sense becuase if you watched the episode this week, the numbers were the serial number for the door on the hatch, hurley has nothing to do with it.

also they are key numbers in the valenzetti equation, which hurley still has nothing to do with. also it wouldnt explain how those numbers won the lottery when hurley played them. the numbers are just important, and at this point, not the result of anything except the island

Ah, I live in England and the newset episode doesn't air til sunday.

What I thought wsa that Hurley was the origin of the umbers, like, he told the numbers to the crazy guy who repeated them, who would then go on to tell them to Hurley in the past, which would mean Hurley was the cause of the numbers - If Hurley didn't tell the crazy guy the numbers, he wouldn't repeat them, and hurley wouldn't use them in the lottery, they would STILL be the winning numbers in the lottery, however.

Quote from: Franklin G. Hamilton;1562147its already been explained that the crazy guy got the numbers from the radio tower on the island that broadcasted them continuously until the french team crashed on the island and rousseau wrote over the message with an SOS. this was the reason hurley was on the plane in the first place. he followed the numbers to australia, found out nothing then headed back to LA on oceanic 815.

this is, atleast what i can remember from season 2 or 3.

so this circle would only really happen if hurley is the one that makes the numbers broadcast. it still doesnt make hurley the cause of the numbers, but more like a tool for the island. because the island wants hurley there, and the island makes the numbers important, not hurley.

yeah but if hurley causes the broadcast it takes a lot of mystery out of the numbers. maybe they were chosen as the serial code because of the valenzetti equation. then that influenced hurley to broadcast them. outside of the lottery everything is now mundane

I'm my own grandpa

Quote from: Poltergeisty;1563631I'm my own grandpa

Hey I actually liked that episode. It certainly gave Miles a little more value in my eyes.

Quote from: Franklin G. Hamilton;1564384hurley broadcasting the numbers wouldnt make them mundane, because the source of the numbers are still a mystery.

well then we're getting into Terminator territory

The Terminator was sent back in time stop John Connor from being born, but in doing so, caused his creation, as Kyle Reese was sent back to protect him. Terminator was only created because Cyberdyne found the Terminator that had been sent back in time.

Both John Connor and the Terminator essentially appeared out of nowhere.

The numbers could be the same

Quote from: Franklin G. Hamilton;1564384i guess the point is to solve all the mysteries before the end of the show, otherwise it would leave everyone blueballed as fuck

hurley broadcasting the numbers wouldnt make them mundane, because the source of the numbers are still a mystery.

I actually get more entertainment from the show thinking that they won't solve half the myseteries. It's less of an annoying experience that way.

Oh hey there Abrams great fucking move killing off the most interesting fucking character you cunt

Yeah, originally I thought Locke was going to metaphorically "kill" Jacob by burning down the cabin as a symbol of him being the leader, but then he actually said "I'm going to kill Jacob" and I felt bad because I liked my idea more


Anyway it was a great episode but serious what the fuck I loved faraday

I can't believe Abrams has the fucking stones to end the series like that and make us wait months for the next episode


My theoruy was the person possessing Locke was an older version of Jacob, which is why a loophole was needed for Jacob to be killed.

Quote from: Franklin G. Hamilton;1580554uhhhhh evil locke was the fucking dude at the beginning of the ep at the foot of the statue with jacob

I know that, I thought the two of them looked very similar. It makes sense, too:
Older Jacob has lived through this before, and knows how it will end, so he is insanely pissed when his younger self does not listen to his warnings, so much that he wants to kill him. However, he can't because then he would also die, ergo in order for Jacob to kill his younger self, he needs a loophole

Quote from: CadillacClock;1580569That's even more ludicrous than the current set up. Especially since they existed at the same time and at relatively the same age.

Secondly, you can't kill yourself (younger) and still exist in the present. Time doesn't work that way. Not on LOST and not according to Physics.

Hahahahahahahahahaaha oh my God you brought physics into this


They can be there are the same time due to time travelling, they can appear similar ages due to Richards magic age-relief. I'm just offering up an idea I think is neat, plus I said a loophole was required in order for younger him to die - as hardcore a LOST fan as I am, I don't think the writers actually care abouth their own "rules"

Quote from: CadillacClock;1580589Jesus Christ, you're stupid. What was Faraday? What did he do for a living? Eloise? Whidmore? They are all or have been physicist and they have all followed the simple rule that time is linear. As it is.

Yes, they do. They do for this. That's why they're following and have trumped up that it is a linear time scale. There is no loop hole in time. That would destroy the foundation of it.

Desmond?

You're tooting Faradays horn like this is an actual absolute science and he is the be-all end-all of knowledge on it - if the writers should choose, they will do whatever they want, and they've already shown they can do whatever they want with time by having Desmond screw around with his past and constantly mention loopholes - you know, the key theme of the last episode this series?

Finally, LOST is a show were a dead mans body is possessed featuring a monster made out of smoke, time travel, dissapearing horses and magical cursed numbers. If you keep thinking LOST if going to have a scientific and explainable ending (or at least one using real science) you'll probably be dissapointed

I'm really interested to see how you think the idea of not ageing could possibly explain why two people around the same age that look completely different are the same person

Quote from: CadillacClock;1581013Never changed time, now did he? I'm pretty sure Eloise was expecting him, even. All he represented was a speaker-box to the present.

I'm fairly sure he did - unless we assume that when he was in the army he suddenly went "WOAH WERE AM I???" then immediately forget why he said that without anyone bringing it up again.


And also let's not forget he convinced Penny not to move - and finally if he didn't change time we're meant to assume he just went to Oxford to look for a man he had never met before and did not know for no actual reason the first time?

Quote from: CadillacClock;1581083Hey! I bet if I go back in time I could give your mom an abortion and then you wouldn't be born, right? I mean, that way I would NEVER have read this post. That's how time works, right?

The most fun here is that you keep talking about this as if it is an actual science.
Seriously, J.J. Abrams does not give a shit, he just wants to make a kooky sci-fi. Watch one episode of Fringe and you'll be convinced he's willing to break his own rules if it suits where he wants the story to go.

Quote from: CadillacClock;1581083No, you have not been following the bouncing ball hard enough. That DID NOT change the past. It only reflected onto the PRESENT.

So something that did not actually happened affected the present? Yes - that makes complete sense.


I'm sorry guys I know I should be working way harder because Lost is such serious buisiness

No one knows Lost like I do

Well gosh guys I'll think next time before making a casual comment on a mystery-driven show, thanks!