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Community => General Discussion => Topic farted by: DWARFINATORclock on February 16, 2009, 09:43:41 PM

Title: For what is liberty but the unhampered translation of will into act?
Post by: DWARFINATORclock on February 16, 2009, 09:43:41 PM
Well?
Title: For what is liberty but the unhampered translation of will into act?
Post by: Maltese on February 16, 2009, 09:44:17 PM
belongs in the debate forum
Title: For what is liberty but the unhampered translation of will into act?
Post by: RomanClock on February 16, 2009, 09:45:32 PM
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Title: For what is liberty but the unhampered translation of will into act?
Post by: DWARFINATORclock on February 16, 2009, 09:46:02 PM
Quote from: Maltese;1523077belongs in the debate forum

No it doesn't.
Title: For what is liberty but the unhampered translation of will into act?
Post by: Maltese on February 16, 2009, 09:50:34 PM
Quote from: ABSIHTNECLOCK;1523080No it doesn't.

this is a philosophical concept of liberty, it belongs in the forum where philosophy belongs

aka the forum where I shit on everything then masturbate on that, then force christians to eat it
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Post by: Safe___Clock on February 16, 2009, 09:50:54 PM
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Title: For what is liberty but the unhampered translation of will into act?
Post by: DWARFINATORclock on February 16, 2009, 09:52:11 PM
America is the land of wide lawns and narrow minds.
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Title: For what is liberty but the unhampered translation of will into act?
Post by: CubeMelonClock on February 16, 2009, 11:17:54 PM
I think this thread is well placed in general.
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Post by: SnakeClock on February 16, 2009, 11:19:10 PM
I believe the unhampered translation of will into act is freedom, not liberty. Liberty is just being able to do that.
Title: For what is liberty but the unhampered translation of will into act?
Post by: CubeMelonClock on February 16, 2009, 11:25:18 PM
I believe that we should will to act toward love.
Title: For what is liberty but the unhampered translation of will into act?
Post by: AlbinoClock on February 17, 2009, 09:29:58 AM
Unhampered? Unhampered by what? By others, sure, but your own resources and body can hamper your will as well as external sources.

For example, say I want to go to space. My liberty to do this is hindered by several factors. To begin with, I do not possess the resources or physical prowess to break the gravity well, breathe in space, or create equipment that allows me to do these things. There are a few organizations on the planet that possess such technology, but without major sacrifices on my part and years of training they probably won't let me use their things. Without initiative to either design the equipment, hire someone else to do it, or suck up to NASA, it won't happen. However, if I made the proper sacrifices by the end no one would stand in my way.

On the other hand, let's say I want to smoke some pot. This is something that is quite easy to accomplish physically that my society tells me I am not allowed to do. They go so far as to attempt to dismantle the entire infrastructure that brings my pot to me, but, given the desires of the people, utterly fail at it. Their attempts to hinder, horrific is they may be, are ineffective against the determined individual.

Freedom, liberty, lack of effective hindrance, comes from within. External sources can only control through fear and manipulation, which, in the end, you have to agree to be controlled by. Short of physical law, no matter what happens, it's pretty much up to you.
Title: For what is liberty but the unhampered translation of will into act?
Post by: DWARFINATORclock on February 17, 2009, 09:35:37 AM
Quote from: Snake Clock;1523264I believe the unhampered translation of will into act is freedom, not liberty. Liberty is just being able to do that.

http://www.tfd.com/liberty

http://www.tfd.com/freedom
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Post by: Poltergeist on February 17, 2009, 09:59:32 AM
Oh Bartleby, oh humanity
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Post by: FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK on February 17, 2009, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: ABSIHTNECLOCK;1523091America is the land of wide lawns and narrow minds.

Dwarfinator I am highly offended by your comment on America! My lawn is tiny.
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Post by: DWARFINATORclock on February 17, 2009, 01:03:10 PM
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Post by: PowerGloveClock on February 17, 2009, 01:29:12 PM
alas poop
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Post by: Poltergeist on February 17, 2009, 01:31:16 PM
The grass ia always greener on the other side
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Post by: Silly Putty Clock on February 17, 2009, 10:39:16 PM
knives don't have your back
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