http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/04/the-pirate-bay-verdict-guilty-with-jail-time.ars
QuoteThe Pirate Bay "spectrial" has ended in a guilty verdict, prison sentences for the defendants, and a shared 30 million kronor ($3.5 million) fine. According to the Swedish district court (http://www.domstol.se/templates/DV_Press____10382.aspx), the operators of the site were guilty of assisting copyright infringement, even though The Pirate Bay hosted none of the files in question and even though other search engines like Google also provide direct access to illegal .torrent files.
These two points formed the basis of The Pirate Bay's defense, but the court found them ultimately unpersuasive in its 107 page verdict. "By providing a site with, as the district court found, sophisticated search functions, easy upload and storage, and a website linked to the tracker," the defendants were guilty of assisting copyright infringement, the court said.
In an Internet press conference this morning, defendant Peter Sunde Kolmisoppi compared the whole trial to (of all things) The Karate Kid, a movie in which the good guy is roughed up by bullies, goes through a long training process, learns to "wax on, wax off," encounters his bully again in the final round of a karate tournament, and kicks him in the face with his "crane technique." Kolmisoppi sees parallels. In the end, he insists, "we'll kick their ass."
Damn.
Fuck you, Swedish district court.
Well this does not bode well for peer-to-peer sharing...
This is madness
Let us stand together and unite in song!
Yo, ho, haul together, hoist the colors high!
Heave ho, thieves and beggars, never shall we die!
The king and his men stole the queen from her bed and bound her in her Bones!
The seas be ours and by the powers where we will we'll roam!
[flash]http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h264/agnryfaic/ANIMASHUNS/AGNRYFAEC.swf wmode=transparent
Won't change a thing.
they can prie their copyright from my cold dead hands
Quote from: RocketFetus;1562272Won't change a thing.
.
Copyright laws are ridiculous these days. Music people just need to get used to not making as much money.
The guys didn't even knew a shit about informatic issues, trying to explain them they didn't host any torrents would be like teaching calculus to a toddler.
Daniel-san
ph33r..
Quote from: & Bob;1562267This is madness
Madness you say?
THIS IS SWEDEN!
wtf prometheus and bob
Sweden never mattered and no one shall adhere to their law. P2P will never die and copyright laws are for ¥¥¥¥¥¥¥.
Quote from: Munglai;1562280Copyright laws are ridiculous these days. Music people just need to get used to not making as much money.
.
a chantey gig goes out to my dead pirate brothas
The term "copyright law" is an oxymoron. You can't put a pricetag on art. How much does 5 minutes alone with the Mona Lisa run these days?
Well this won't stop me.
Effectively enforcing prohibition would be easier than stopping p2p.
http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-trial-the-verdict-090417/
Has more info.
So basically, the site remains, no one will report in to be jailed, no fines will be payed and Sweden still sucks dick in hell with ¥¥¥¥¥¥¥.
fuck
Well damn. Now they have to take care of the OTHER torrent sites, and the file sharing sites, and the social networking sites, and anything that allows you to upload anything.
Quote from: ButtplugClock;1562266Well this does not bode well for peer-to-peer sharing...
lmao like it can be killed
Let's sue AOL because they have file transfer capabilites. plus IRC channels
Quote from: DingleberryClock;1562469Let's sue AOL because they have file transfer capabilites. plus IRC channels
Lets just sue the internet.
remember that commercial from gta III about how easy it is to sue fuckin' anyone
it's true
: (
By the way I'm playing Fallout 3 on my laptop right now.
I didn't pay for it.
Just sayin.
fuck
Quote from: Roman Collar Clock;1562559By the way I'm playing Fallout 3 on my laptop right now.
I didn't pay for it.
Just sayin.
No, you're posting on the clock crew right now.
Quote from: ULTRA_CLOCK;1562480remember that commercial from gta III about how easy it is to sue fuckin' anyone
it's true
That commercial was great because then they didn't have to bother tweaking the terrible A.I. that made pedestrians leap head-first into your windshield. Rockstar make detailed, OCD game environments with really shoddy game components. is true
Quote from: Munglai;1562280Copyright laws are ridiculous these days. Music people just need to get used to not making as much money.
This.
Ironically, I feel guilty for
legitimately buying Spore, because I supported a company who could care less about the end-user, uses SecuROM, is generally helping to ruin the industry, and I wasted $50 on an mediocre game. Yes, I'm being a biased twat and demonizing EA.
Quote from: ULTRA_CLOCK;1562480remember that commercial from gta III about how easy it is to sue fuckin' anyone
it's true
I am getting more and more reason to artistically satire suing madness.
Although Weird Al already did that to both sue-maniacs and copyright nuts.
Quote from: AirPumpClock;1562581This.
Ironically, I feel guilty for legitimately buying Spore, because I supported a company who could care less about the end-user, uses SecuROM, is generally helping to ruin the industry, and I wasted $50 on an mediocre game. Yes, I'm being a biased twat and demonizing EA.
But really, that's a phenomena of Piracy.
Either it's "Holy shit, this is the best thing ever! I'm glad i got this for free!"
or
"Holy shit, this is the worst thing ever. Thank god i didn't spend $70 on this piece of garbage"
I only turn to piracy when Something is really old or unavailable, I mean, why buy a $50 SNES game when I can emulate it, the company isn't going to lose money...
or is it?...
Grim Fandango, Maniac Mansion, EarthBound, Metal Storm, Vectorman
It does have its pluses. I haven't been able to find a copy of Battle Engine Aquila for a long time, nor Descent II or III.
owned
Quote from: Wind-up Clock;1562585But really, that's a phenomena of Piracy.
Either it's "Holy shit, this is the best thing ever! I'm glad i got this for free!"
or
"Holy shit, this is the worst thing ever. Thank god i didn't spend $70 on this piece of garbage"
But I like to legitimately buy things that are good and/or support good companies, like Capcom or Nintendo.
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I pirate older games that I couldn't get otherwise.
And the occasional CD. Leftovers was only on shelves for a day!
Quote from: AirPumpClock;1562616good companies
Quote from: AirPumpClock;1562616Capcom
Quote from: AirPumpClock;1562616Nintendo.
what
I still buy psp games (call me lame w/e idk)
but how should I get the album drill from the band drill without the internet
Quote from: ButtplugClock;1562646what
Nintendo is an excellent company.
nintendo is based on kids and people who are to lazy to do sports or parrents
Well, at least we have isohunt
Quote from: thunderbolt;1562743nintendo is based on kids and people who are to lazy to do sports or parrents
Can't blame Nintendo for trying something different from button-pressing while sitting on a couch.
your probably right but I feel left out
Quote from: DiscoBallClock;1562745Can't blame Nintendo for trying something different from button-pressing while sitting on a couch.
yeah stick waggling while on a couch
Quote from: DiscoBallClock;1562745Can't blame Nintendo for trying something different from button-pressing while sitting on a couch.
Yes I can, because its a horrible idea. what's wrong with button pressing on a couch ?
Quote from: Asshatclock;1562758Yes I can, because its a horrible idea. what's wrong with button pressing on a couch ?
Nothing, but Nintendo wanted something new.
Mind you, I'm not saying that other consoles are bad or anything because they don't promote physical effort(I have a PS2 and a PS3), I'm just pointing out the fact that Nintendo wanted to innovate.
If it weren't for the Nintendo 64, none of the Playstation franchise would exist.
Quote from: BlueGasMaskClock;1562765If it weren't for the Nintendo 64, none of the Playstation franchise would exist.
it matters
Quote from: BlueGasMaskClock;1562765If it weren't for the Nintendo 64, none of the Playstation franchise would exist.
The nintendo 64 was good, no complaints there.
someone mentions something big and popular on the internet and bam everybody hates it
Quote from: TwistClock;1562744Well, at least we have isohunt
Damn Straight!
Quote from: Franklin G. Hamilton;1562571thou shall steal?
SHALT. THE SECOND PERSON IS SHALT.
Learn to play by the rules, you hippies.
I love the N64
but I hate the idea of nintendo making money on stupid sports games that you can also play in real life
Quote from: Franklin G. Hamilton;1562291did anyone seriously expect this to go any other way after hearing they would defend themselves, no lawyer
what are you talking about
Quote from: BlueGasMaskClock;1562765If it weren't for the Nintendo 64, none of the Playstation franchise would exist.
PS1 came out before N64.....
And owned it mercilessly through the entire course of their lives
And still lives to this day
Quote from: DingleberryClock;1562864PS1 came out before N64.....
but PS1 was supposed to be a CD add-on for the Snes, but in the experimentation phase it got bored and decided to made a whole new console
good thing or nintendo might have gone the way of sega
Quote from: TwistClock;1562744Well, at least we have isohunt
and Mininova, and Torrentz, and BTmon, and Sumotorrents, and Demonoid....
Quote from: Wind-up Clock;1562934and Mininova, and Torrentz, and BTmon, and Sumotorrents, and Demonoid....
I feel guilty because I once used all those sites:facepalm:
Quote from: HazardClock;1562939I feel guilty because I once used all those sites:facepalm:
who hasnt used them
demonoid is win
Quote from: DingleberryClock;1562942demonoid is win
I hear that.
i love how this ended in a "Here is the better torrents" thread
torrents ftw
Quote from: HazardClock;1562958i love how this ended in a "Here is the better torrents" thread
Oh, no, we're just listing the other evil filesharing sites that are overtly stealing content from those poor people who work so hard to make all that.
:shifty:
That should just be glad that people want to see their art before they die.
Quote from: DingleberryClock;1562942demonoid is win
demonoid has the fucking stupidest ruleset i've ever seen
that and the stupidest moderators
You can make a full torrent with cracks, readmes, and whatever someone needs to run a game, but if someone doesn't know HOW TO FUCKING RUN AN ISO, OR HOW TO GOOGLE AN ERROR WITH THE GAME AND HOW TO MAKE IT COMPATIBLE WITH XP/VISA, they can post pages of comments like 'omg ths torrent dnt work, shit uploader,' while if you, in a spurt of niceness, decide to link them to a topic in which it shows them how to make it work inside of a comment, it gets deleted and you get a warning.
This happened to me in my fallout 1/2 torrent. Fuck demonoid, those cock suckers.
Well if you're downloading games, especially popular games, use whatever. But Demonoid has much rare music and more obscure movies
try torrents.ru (for music)
I share a rapidshare account with two other people it's the best thing ever.
Yeah guys Nintendo... wait this thread derailed badly
Quote from: TequilaClock;1563005Yeah guys Nintendo... wait this thread derailed badly
My bad ^_^'
Bump for BIAS!!!! (http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/04/pirateconflict.html)