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Arts & Leisure => Pokemon Stadium => Topic farted by: heineken on April 27, 2009, 01:08:17 PM

Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: heineken on April 27, 2009, 01:08:17 PM
A while ago I was reading a book on medieval coats of arms, and later I thought I'd try at making a coat of arms for graphic designers.

This is the first concept I made. I made some mistakes in the design which I will iron out in the second run, see if there's any improvements to make. For starters the banner needs to become lighter and the text needs to fit in better. I'm also not sure if I will keep the shading 100% with lines, and maybe I should use some color.

(https://clockcrew.net/talk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.myfrogbag.com%2F60e3kq%2Florem%2520ipsum.png&hash=dad0d4c2c6dba2efc908a15975cce4e2ac7d85a8)
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: heineken on April 27, 2009, 01:21:01 PM
Quote from: JimmyCarterClock;1567581Nemo me impune laccessit

I don't actually read latin though, lorem ipsum is dummytext that graphic designers use to test how their designs look with text in them. The words don't even make sense when you translate them, but I thought it would be appropriate to use them in this context.

An online translator says you posted something with "No one" and "unpunished".
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: Loki Clock on April 27, 2009, 03:12:24 PM
Read up on heraldry. Not only will you learn how to design a proper escutcheon, but you'll learn concepts valuable to graphic design.

Here are some key problems with your design:

Patterns correspond to colors. Your pencil, here, is blue, with purple wood.

Three distinct colors and so much detail to a charge as simple as a pencil is abominable. The point of coats of arms are to be able to recognize the army from up to miles away without a telescope. Heraldry is functional, not decorative.

Your two charges (the circle and pencil) are not aligned with any allowed placement in traditional heraldry. Precision should not come into the play of heraldry. The whole design should be reproducible from a description with as few terms as possible. The more precise you are, the harder it is to meet your demands or possibly even understand your coat's description.
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: heineken on April 27, 2009, 04:05:53 PM
Quote from: Loki Klokka;1567640Read up on heraldry.


Hmm, maybe I wasn't exactly right to call it coats of arms, I was more thinking of a sign that you would hang outside your shop. An army of graphic designers isn't much use, unless you wanted an army that could impress a crowd with pompous words and lots of design-related slang.

Thanks for the tip though, I will definitely look it up.
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: Loki Clock on April 27, 2009, 04:08:57 PM
Quote from: Football;1567679Hmm, maybe I wasn't exactly right to call it coats of arms, I was more thinking of a sign that you would hang outside your shop. An army of graphic designers isn't much use, unless you wanted an army that could impress a crowd with pompous words and lots of design-related slang.

But Football! Is the pen not mightier than the sword?
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: heineken on April 27, 2009, 04:11:57 PM
Quote from: Loki Klokka;1567683But Football! Is the pen not mightier than the sword?

Depends on the situation. Face-to-face, I'd take the sword.
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: Wind-up Clock on April 27, 2009, 05:13:04 PM
Have you not seen what the Joker did with the pencil?

The pen is ten times stronger than that.
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: Silly Putty Clock on April 27, 2009, 06:40:37 PM
Quote from: Wind-up Clock;1567769Have you not seen what the Joker did with the pencil?

The pen is ten times stronger than that.

Pens have metal tips! Everybody knows you can't break metal!
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: TequilaClock on April 27, 2009, 06:50:21 PM
FYI, it was a pencil.
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: Wind-up Clock on April 27, 2009, 08:49:51 PM
Yeah. And a pen is much stronger than that.
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: Silly Putty Clock on April 27, 2009, 09:23:37 PM
Quote from: Wind-up Clock;1567874Yeah. And a pen is much stronger than that.

UNBREAKABLE METAL TIPS
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: heineken on April 28, 2009, 10:09:29 AM
Made 100x100 tiling patterns of the correct colors, thanks Loki!
(https://clockcrew.net/talk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.myfrogbag.com%2F60e3kq%2Ftiles.png&hash=b50bac2ecb3a66e7758593882e066801aa41d284)
Hmm, the fourth came out a little weird when saving as an image, still looks normal in Flash though.
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: Loki Clock on April 28, 2009, 04:20:00 PM
Quote from: Football;1568104Made 100x100 tiling patterns of the correct colors, thanks Loki!
Hmm, the fourth came out a little weird when saving as an image, still looks normal in Flash though.

Another thing, you should try and keep the palette down to as few colors as possible. It makes the forms stand out a lot more. The colors are supposed to be more symbolic than realistic in most cases.
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: PecanClock on April 28, 2009, 08:06:59 PM
Ookslay ettypray oolcay 8-)
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: TequilaClock on April 28, 2009, 08:26:56 PM
Quote from: Wind-up Clock;1567874Yeah. And a pen is much stronger than that.
Ah, oh.
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: heineken on April 29, 2009, 11:29:17 AM
Quote from: JimmyCarterClock;1568668The only reasion you're doing patterns is because you're too ashamed to admit you forgot the names of the tinctures.

White - Argent
Gold - Or
Blue - Azure
Green - Vert
Red - Gules
Purple - Purpure
Black - Sable

Hey that's funny that's the exact order wikipedia names it in
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: iPodClock on April 29, 2009, 11:53:59 AM
i'm sorry but this is god-awful.
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: Beret on May 01, 2009, 10:04:15 PM
mmm chicken yes
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: SpinningCubeClock on May 01, 2009, 10:31:50 PM
This thread is shit :(
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: Soup Clock on May 02, 2009, 01:29:47 PM
Quote from: Football;1567580A while ago I was reading a book on medieval coats of arms, and later I thought I'd try at making a coat of arms for graphic designers.

One big problem about the design is the centeredness of it.  BIG rule in graphic design is to avoid symmetry unless you can do it really well.
Title: Lorem Ipsum - Concept
Post by: AstronautClock on May 02, 2009, 02:00:36 PM
the logo looks like a boring one, which it is
you should start over from scratch. I would do that if I was you