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WHAT!

No, fuck you!

Quote from: KotakuPublisher Activision has filed suit against Brütal Legend developer Double Fine Productions to prevent the release of the heavy metal game starring Jack Black, putting the title's Rocktober release in jeopardy. According to a report from the Associated Press, Activision claims that Double Fine failed to deliver Brütal Legend on time and mostly on its dime. The suit contends that the Brütal Legend dev was paid $15 million to finish the game, but missed a key deadline, with Double Fine asking for another $7 million in development monies and a nine month extension.
                      When Vivendi and Activision merged last year, Brütal Legend was missing from the list of titles that Activision would inherit and publish. But Activision claims it still retains its rights to the open world action adventure and that the mega-publisher has suffered "irreparable harm" in losing the game.
 The lawsuit is unlikely a surprise for EA and Double Fine, as Activision expressed its unhappiness with the game being handed over to its biggest competitor earlier this year. EA's response to Activision's legal threats called them as ridiculous as "a husband abandoning his family and then suing after his wife meets a better looking guy."
 Brütal Legend's presence at E3 2009 is big. New publisher Electronic Arts is banking heavily on the game, but if Activision is successful in its latest round of litigation, it's possible that we might have to start looking forward to a Rockvember or Rockcember release.

http://kotaku.com/5279036/activision-sues-brutal-legend-devs-to-halt-release

that's fucking bullshit, they are now claiming it back when they know it will be an awesome game.

This is a legal move but it is still a fucking puss, Activision layed down the project out of their reach because they thought it would be not "worth exploding", so if they kicked it away its their own fucking fault.

I hope Activision's booth gets wrecked as the E3 is still up.

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You know, I never used to think terrorism was a good idea...

Nooooooo :(

Tim Schafer is gonna fuck shit up

Oh how DARE Activision be upset the game they paid 15 million dollars for now requires an extra 7 million and will be delayed! They have NO RIGHT to be so angry about this!!!

Y'know, this is the same reason TakeTwo sued 3D Realms for not making Duke Nukem Forever, but the difference is that Brütal Legend IS ACTUALLY GETTING FINISHED. :p

This is just like that bullshit Fox pulled on WB when they where making Watchmen.

Quote from: Poltergeisty;1593321Oh how DARE Activision be upset the game they paid 15 million dollars for now requires an extra 7 million and will be delayed! They have NO RIGHT to be so angry about this!!!

Actually Activision dumped the project as they thought it was not worth the sweat. They decided to move their pieces after seeing the positive reaction in E3.

Quote from: PirateClock;1593328This is just like that bullshit Fox pulled on WB when they where making Watchmen.

You have no idea how many are thinking the same haha

Quote from: Poltergeisty;1593321Oh how DARE Activision be upset the game they paid 15 million dollars for now requires an extra 7 million and will be delayed! They have NO RIGHT to be so angry about this!!!

Actually Activision dumped the project as they thought it was not worth the sweat. They decided to move their pieces after seeing the positive reaction in E3.

Quote from: PirateClock;1593328This is just like that bullshit Fox pulled on WB when they where making Watchmen.

You have no idea how many are thinking the same haha

Brutal Legend will be a horrible game mark my words.

Quote from: PirateClock;1593328This is just like that bullshit Fox pulled on WB when they where making Watchmen.

ACTUALLY Fox still owned the rights to make the Watchmen movie, so they sort of had the right to sue, too...


Aha I'm such an awesome guy sticking up for the Man

Quote from: DWARFINATOR;1593335Brutal Legend will be a horrible game mark my words.

I am sorry but I won't listen your mindless troll shit, I already have a space for this in my shelf.

And shame of you if you hypocritically buy it too.

Quote from: TequilaClock;1593345I am sorry but I won't listen your mindless troll shit, I already have a space for this in my shelf.

And shame of you if you hypocritically buy it too.

Why would I buy a game I know I will hate?

This is a beat em' up, right? Yeah, I've always hated those, even Devil May Cry and God of War seemed too repetitive and HARDCEOR for my taste. I don't know, there are only SO MANY times I can push circle to watch something die before it gets dull.

Quote from: Poltergeisty;1593373This is a beat em' up, right? Yeah, I've always hated those, even Devil May Cry and God of War seemed too repetitive and HARDCEOR for my taste. I don't know, there are only SO MANY times I can push circle to watch something die before it gets dull.

It's a fucking Tim Schafer beat em up mannnnn.

Yeah beat em ups are boring but so are RPGs and first person shooters and almost every game in the world. The fact of the matter is that almost every game is exactly the same and the only thing that makes most of them worth playing is the story because the fun of the gameplay almost always gets dull after about an hour. Tim Schafer is awesome at writing and unless Jack Black fucks it up horrifically the game will be funny and have a good story and that will make it worth playing.

He should seriously go back to making proper adventure games though.

no






NO

Yeah, this is pretty shit.  I guess ruining Guitar Hero wasn't enough for them.

Quote from: DWARFINATOR;1593367Why would I buy a game I know I will hate?

Mark my words.

lol

If ya liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it.
If ya liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it.

Oh oh ohhh oh oh ohhh oh oh ohhh

QuoteEA's response to Activision's legal threats called them as ridiculous as "a husband abandoning his family and then suing after his wife meets a better looking guy."

hahahahaha

I used to hate EA, lately ive been liking them more and more.

Quote from: DWARFINATOR;1593335Brutal Legend will be a horrible game mark my words.

Probably, but who cares? Alot of games are shitty in their gameplay etc. but the story/mode is so cool you just have to keep playing;

Heroes of Might and Magic 4 sucked compared to the old ones but the stories were fucking epic: Like Oscar movies turned into games.

I'm not holding my breath but it looks pretty godamn cool, especially since they got Ozzy Osbourne in it

Quote from: PropagandaClock;1593413I'm not holding my breath but it looks pretty godamn cool, especially since they got Ozzy Osbourne in it

wait, what? holy fuck YES

Yeah, he's in it.  It's pretty fuckin' rad.

(https://clockcrew.net/talk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache.gawker.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2Fkotaku%2F2009%2F06%2Fbrutal_legend_ozzy.jpg&hash=90154e4bfdb427426f2f6b7365c752adb2db2a3c)

SHAROOON SHAROOON IM IN HELL

Tim Schafer's response is amazing.

Quote"Hey, if Activision liked it, then they should have put a ring on it," Schafer said. "Oh great, now Beyoncé is going to sue me too."

ea is gay activision is gay

Double Gayer

Quote from: Kryten 2X4B-523P;1593652SHAROOON SHAROOON IM IN HELL

hahahahah

damnit now that i've seen more of this game i'm actually really excited

fuk off activision......

Quote from: Redundant Clock;1593393Yeah, this is pretty shit.  I guess ruining Guitar Hero wasn't enough for them.

I don't know, I think the whole premise kind of ruined itself...

Quote from: Silly Putty Clock;1595382I don't know, I think the whole premise kind of ruined itself...

Guitar Hero etc. is a fad like everything else it'll pass

Quote from: PropagandaClock;1595387Guitar Hero etc. is a fad like everything else it'll pass

But I thought it had already passed. It's still going on?

Quote from: Silly Putty Clock;1595391But I thought it had already passed. It's still going on?

Even Tony Hawk's Pro Skater is still fucking alive, Activision acquired not long a go a policy of simply adopting franchises that seem to be exploitable in a minimum of a year worthy of milking. Last year they released 6 different kinds of Guitar Hero games. Fucking six.

They dumped Brutal Legend because it didn't seem to have that characteristic, and it wasn't even Activision who gave the initial budget, Vivendi was still independent when they launched the moves but Activision legally has the rights now they absorbed Vivendi, but they really didn't give any profit or even interest under the Activision name.

Quote from: TequilaClock;1595410Even Tony Hawk's Pro Skater is still fucking alive, Activision acquired not long a go a policy of simply adopting franchises that seem to be exploitable in a minimum of a year worthy of milking. Last year they released 6 different kinds of Guitar Hero games. Fucking six.

They dumped Brutal Legend because it didn't seem to have that characteristic, and it wasn't even Activision who gave the initial budget, Vivendi was still independent when they launched the moves but Activision legally has the rights now they absorbed Vivendi, but they really didn't give any profit or even interest under the Activision name.

That's really, really lame.
Although I admit I had loads of fun skateboarding as Spider-Man in Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2.

Quote from: Silly Putty Clock;1595382I don't know, I think the whole premise kind of ruined itself...

I respectfully disagree.

Quote from: Atrus;1593323Y'know, this is the same reason TakeTwo sued 3D Realms for not making Duke Nukem Forever, but the difference is that Brütal Legend IS ACTUALLY GETTING FINISHED. :p

two entirely different synerious, actually:

Activision actually put a good 30 million(or something like that, i can't remember the exact details) into Brütal Legend then dropped the project claiming it was going nowhere. Now they're sour that it's a good game and they're out the money.
TakeTwo never provided any money for Duke Nukem Forever (aside from the money they paid to purchase the publishing rights from ATARI, and none of that money went to 3DR) because 3Drealms was entirely self funded. The TakeTwo lawsuit is essentially a scare tactic to get the developing rights for Duke Nukem Forever.

Quote from: Redundant Clock;1595591I respectfully disagree.

HEY KIDS PRETEND TO PLAY GUITAR THAT'LL MAKE YOU COOL

Quote from: Silly Putty Clock;1595897HEY KIDS PRETEND TO PLAY GUITAR THAT'LL MAKE YOU COOL

Hey come on, it was a great idea from the beginning, it just got abused

Quote from: RobClock;1595821two entirely different synerious, actually:
 
 Activision actually put a good 30 million

No;

Quote from: TequilaClock;1595410...it wasn't even Activision who gave the initial budget, Vivendi was still independent when they launched the moves but Activision legally has the rights now they absorbed Vivendi, but they really didn't give any profit or even interest under the Activision name.

In other words, Activision didn't really lose anything from dropping Brutal Legend, in fact they thought it would have been a waste of money

Quote from: Silly Putty Clock;1595897HEY KIDS PRETEND TO PLAY GUITAR THAT'LL MAKE YOU COOL

The point was never to look cool, the point was to have fun.  You know, like video games should be.

Quote from: Redundant Clock;1595906The point was never to look cool, the point was to have fun.  You know, like video games should be.

I can't see anyone having fun playing Guitar Hero. It just doesn't strike me as a fun game. It strikes me as a "show off and look cool" game.

Quote from: Redundant Clock;1595906The point was never to look cool, the point was to have fun.  You know, like video games should be.

This.

Quote from: Silly Putty Clock;1595909I can't see anyone having fun playing Guitar Hero. It just doesn't strike me as a fun game. It strikes me as a "show off and look cool" game.

Yeah but did you ever play it? Also, being good in Guitar Hero is equivalent to being good in just another video game.

Quote from: Silly Putty Clock;1595909I can't see anyone having fun playing Guitar Hero. It just doesn't strike me as a fun game. It strikes me as a "show off and look cool" game.

Actually it's a lot of fun and I've seen plenty of people have fun with it.  It's a pretty good party game.
Rock Band's even more fun because you have four people playing at once all working together and usually all making fools of themselves.

Quote from: Redundant Clock;1595967Actually it's a lot of fun and I've seen plenty of people have fun with it.  It's a pretty good party game.
Rock Band's even more fun because you have four people playing at once all working together and usually all making fools of themselves.

Now, Rock Band I can see being fun.
But still.
grumblegrumblefakeguitargrumblegrumble

Son of a bitch.

Quote from: Silly Putty Clock;1595909I can't see anyone having fun playing Guitar Hero. It just doesn't strike me as a fun game. It strikes me as a "show off and look cool" game.

fff you're dumb

Guitar hero stops beeing fun when you hit expert mode.

Quote from: Asshatclock;1596141Guitar hero stops beeing fun when you hit expert mode.

It stops being fun when you hit expert mode when it comes to playing at parties/playing Guitar Hero 3.

Quote from: Silly Putty Clock;1596011Now, Rock Band I can see being fun.
But still.
grumblegrumblefakeguitargrumblegrumble

oh guys that game where you hit coloured buttons to onscreen prompts is sooo not fun

but this other game where you hit cooured buttons onscreen prompts is.

Quote from: Awesome Man;1595591I respectfully disagree.

No, godamnit no, you go to hell ! You got to hell and you DIE !

Quote from: Silly Putty Clock;1595909I can't see anyone having fun playing Guitar Hero. It just doesn't strike me as a fun game. It strikes me as a "show off and look cool" game.

I almost never have fun in a game where there is no sort of destruction, racing games, sport games, I don't care how great they render some Sportjockeys assmuscles or make The Sims more real and "human": The day The Sims releases "Psychopath expansionpack; Finally your Sims can become the limb-clothing sociopath you've always wanted"
I'll play it

There are a few exceptions but still I don't enjoy most non-violent/action games

It's over.

It's finally over. (http://www.destructoid.com/rocktober-lives-brutal-legend-lawsuit-settled-143098.phtml)

Quote from: TequilaClock;1640048It's over.

It's finally over.

You don't fuck with DoubleFine.

Oh, and one the subject of Guitar Hero...

Quote from: WikipediaIn July 2009, Double Fine issued a countersuit against Activision, citing that the latter company had abandoned the project before, and is trying to harm Brütal Legend during its critical marketing phase, as well as trying to protect its Guitar Hero franchise. The countersuit states that Activision had dropped the game after its merger with Vivendi after failing to attempt to convert the game into a Guitar Hero sequel.

HULK SMAAAASH

Quote from: Dark Propaganda;1596520I almost never have fun in a game where there is no sort of destruction, racing games, sport games, I don't care how great they render some Sportjockeys assmuscles or make The Sims more real and "human": The day The Sims releases "Psychopath expansionpack; Finally your Sims can become the limb-clothing sociopath you've always wanted"
I'll play it

There are a few exceptions but still I don't enjoy most non-violent/action games

yeah you'll probably grow out of that

Brutal Legend as a Guitar Hero sequel?
Fuck.
That.

Guitar Hero used to be cool when Harmonix was in charge. Then Actionvision came and the setlists became shit.

Quote from: TabascoClock;1640232Guitar Hero used to be cool when Harmonix was in charge. Then Actionvision came and the setlists became shit.

well damn them for trying to please across the board

Guitar Hero isn't something I would call bad, but it's certainly not for everyone. I personally find it to be lacking since I see it as a much less energetic form of DDR. That only makes it a bad game for me, but most other people have no problem with it.

But really, the main issue is that it's becoming the new EA Sports. Activision is just re-releasing it over and over again with new tracks. It would be easier to release DLCs to get new songs and features, but they'll never do that because they're earning much more money this way.

This alienates real game developers. Publishers spend way too much money at churning out more sequels, so other development teams aren't getting enough funds for newer, more exciting games. And then they throw a humongous "fuck you" at the developers by paving over all of their previous work to make way for more sequels.

Quote from: STUBZ;1640253well damn them for trying to please across the board

I actually think the set list for Guitar Hero 3 was pretty good, I have a problem with the game itself.  With Guitar Hero 1, the game had some difficulty, but it was still possible and very fun on Expert mode.  With Guitar Hero 2, the songs got harder, but that was okay since they made the hammer-on and hammer-off system good, so the game was still fun.

However, with Guitar Hero 3, the notes are just all over the place, triplets everywhere, and you had Through The Fire and Flames, which was a shit song in the first place, but then I heard it 2486724y87 more times when the game came out, and the song wasn't that fun to play.  "Oh boy, I get to fail a song within 3 seconds!  What a fun game!"

Now, granted, Jordan was a fucking impossible song on Guitar Hero 2, but it was one exception, the rest were still fun and possible songs to beat.  Jordan is like that one optional boss whose stats are fucked and kills you with one special movie.

But with Guitar Hero 3, I couldn't help but get the feeling that Activision saw how much people were talking about (how impossible) Jordan (was) and thought "Hey, if people likes Jordan, then they're going to love it when EVERY SONG IS A GIANT MASS OF BUTTONS".

tldr; Guitar Hero 3's songs are good but the notes are fucking impossible and shit and not fun.

Quote from: Topcatyo;1640270tldr; Guitar Hero 3's songs are good but the notes are fucking impossible and shit and not fun.

True and GH2 had Voivod so it automatically wins.

The soundtrack has been released:
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/08/10/exclusive-video-tim-schafer-rubicks-cube-vs-the-brutal-legend-soundtrack//


3 Inches of Blood - Deadly Sinners
3 Inches of Blood - Destroy The Orcs
Accept - Fast As A Shark
Angel Witch - Angel Witch
Anthrax - Metal Thrashing Mad
Anvil - March of the Crabs
Anvil - Tag Team
Apostasy - Sulphur Injection
Bishop of Hexen - A Serpentine Grave
Bishop of Hexen - The Somber Grounds of Truth
Black Sabbath - Children of the Grave
Black Sabbath - Symptom of the Universe
Black Sabbath - Never Say Die
Brocas Helm - Cry of the Banshee
Brocas Helm - Drink the Blood of the Priest
Budgie - Breadfan
Budgie - Zoom Club
Candlemass - Witches
Carcass - No Love Lost
Cloven Hoof Nightstalker
Children of Bodom - Angels Don't Kill
Coroner - Skeleton on your Shoulder
Cradle of Filth - Her Ghost in the Fog
Crimson Glory - Queen of the Masquerade
Dark Fortress - Insomnia
Dark Tranquility - Cathode Ray Sunshine
Deathstars - Blitzkrieg
Def Leppard - Rock of Ages
Dethklok - Mermaider
Diamond Head - Am I Evil?
Dimmu Borgir - Progenies of the Great Apocalypse
Dokken - Mr. Scary
Dragonforce - Through the Fire and Flames
Emperor - Thus Spake The Nightspirit
Enslaved - Frost
Enslaved - Loke
Firehouse - Overnight Sensation
Girlschool - Bomber
Iced Earth - When the Night Falls
Iced Earth - Pure Evil
In Flames - Goliaths Disarm Their Davids
Judas Priest - Battle Hymn
Judas Priest - The Hellion/Electric Eye
Judas Priest - Leather Rebel
Judas Priest - One Shot At Glory
Judas Priest - Painkiller
Kabbage Boy - Girlfriend
KMFDM - Free Your Hate
KMFDM - Rip The System
King Diamond - Cremation
King Diamond - Welcome Home
Kiss - God of Thunder
Lita Ford - Betrayal
Marilyn Manson - Beautiful People
Manowar - Die For Metal
Manowar - The Dawn Of Battle
Mastodon - Crack the Skye
Mastodon - Oblivion Instrumental
Megadeath - High Speed Dirt
Megadeath - Tornado of Souls
Metal Church - Metal Church
Michael Schenker - Group Assault Attack
Ministry - Stigmata
Ministry - Thieves
Mirrorthrone - So Frail
Motley Crue - Dr. Feelgood
Motley Crue - Kickstart My Heart
Motley Crue - Live Wire
Motorhead - Back at the Funny Farm
Motorhead - In the Black
Motorhead - Marching Off to War
Motorhead - We Are the Road Crew
Nitro - Machine Gun Eddie
Omen - The Axeman
Ostrogoth - Queen of Desire
Overkill - World of Hurt
Ozzy Osbourne - Believer
Ozzy Osbourne - Mr. Crowley
Ozzy Osbourne - Diary of a Madman
Prong - Snap Your Fingers, Snap Your Neck
Quiet Riot - The Wild and the Young
Racer X - Technical Difficulties
Racer X - Y.R.O.
Ratt - Lay It Down
Riot - Road Racin
Riot - Narita
Riot - Swords and Tequila
Rob Zombie - Superbeast
Rotting Christ - Ad Notics
Running Wild - Riding the Storm
Sanctuary - Battle Angels
Savatage - Hall of the Mountain King
Saxon - Wheels of Steel
Scorpions - Blackout
Scorpions - Holiday
Skeletonwitch - Soul Thrashing Black Sorcery
Skid Row - Youth Gone Wild
Slayer - Metal Storm/Face The Slayer
Slough Feg - Warriors Dawn
Static-X - Love Dump
Tenacious D - Master Exploder
Tenacious D - The Metal
Testament - For The Glory Of
Testament - More Than Meets The Eye
Tvangeste - Birth of the Hero
UFO - Rock Bottom
Whitesnake - Still of the Night
Wrath of Killenstein - Ignisis Dance

No Iron Maiden :'(, I also kinda expected some Metallica.

Judas Priest is <3 though.

Lack of Iron Maiden is disappointing.

Lack of Metallica makes sense as Guitar Hero swallowed the rights. But Iron Maiden... yep.

Multiplayer looks pretty nice

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/multiplayer-gameplay-brutal-legend/54185

Yes, that's Tim Curry doing the voice of the demon leader.

This is one of the most epic ESRB summaries ever

QuoteThis is an action adventure/role-playing game that tells the story of Eddie Riggs, a roadie who is transported to a mythical world of heavy metal rock. Eddie is armed with a guitar and a double-headed axe, which players can use to slash and dismember enemies. Players can also perform "face-melting solos" (literally melting enemies' faces), meet humanoid creatures dressed like dominatrixes and brandishing whips, and liberate an army of rockers from a life of oppression. Although the storyline is often irreverent and whimsical, the depictions of violence are somewhat intense: Undead humanoids are dismembered with an axe (sometimes in slow-motion); a "Steel-Quilled Blade" causes human enemies to explode into gibs that rain down; machine guns, missile launchers, and sub woofers can be used to kill druids and other fantastical creatures. Eddie can also run over dozens of enemies with his hot rod, resulting in blood effects and more heads and limbs getting chopped off. During the course of the game, characters sometimes engage in suggestive dialogue intended for comedic effect (e.g., "Maybe with all your feedback, you guys could just blow me over the gorge" and "Playtime's over. Now let's get back to the orgy"). Players will also encounter "Skull Rakers" clad in bondage gear and amazon-like warriors dressed in leather outfits that partially reveal buttocks and breasts. Strong profanity (e.g., "f*ck," "sh*t," and "d*ck") can be heard in the dialogue

No Iron maiden? That shits fucked up.

The intro cinematic got "leaked". So brilliant.

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Quote from: TequilaClock;1658824

Quotebuttocks and breasts.

BUTTOCKS

Quote from: TequilaClock;1667485The intro cinematic got "leaked". So brilliant.

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Oh god, OH GOD. That's cool and all, but the setup makes it look like they're gonna end the game with the "HE WAKES UP AND FINDS OUT IT WAS ALL A DREAM OR WAS IT" trope.

Double Fine doesn't seem like the kind of company that would pull that, but I will be PISSED if they do.

Quote from: Koko the Apetheist;1667649Oh god, OH GOD. That's cool and all, but the setup makes it look like they're gonna end the game with the "HE WAKES UP AND FINDS OUT IT WAS ALL A DREAM OR WAS IT" trope.
 
Double Fine doesn't seem like the kind of company that would pull that, but I will be PISSED if they do.

I was thinking about that too, but the whole scene with the metal fiend bashing the shit out of the hipsters seemed too canonical to not be right.
 
Still, I wouldn't give two shits about the conclusion, the whole game is going to be super awesome. Maybe even they are teasing that scene just to give us an unexpected ending when we thought it wouild be predictable. Schafer knows the industry very well.

I've been sold since I saw the name Tim Schafer, they're merely spoiling us at this point.