Clock Crew

So I don't know a lot about computers. but.
Windows is saying my little CPU is running at like 70-80% all the time now.
And it's loud. I can hear something going on in the tower, constantly.

Anyways, what the fuck is going on, this video card isn't even that much of an upgrade why is my computer doing this oh my god im so scared.

learn megahurtz

B(
guys this shit is loud
i have a quad core processor is this shit really happening to me

Find the program that causes it
get rid of it, I doubt it's going to be that easy though but you should atleast give some more information about the circumstances.

Quote from: Reisen Udongein Inaba;1596118Find the program that causes it
get rid of it, I doubt it's going to be that easy though but you should atleast give some more information about the circumstances.

what else do you need to know?
my former graphics card was built into the motherboard an ati radeon hd3200.
this new is a hd4650.

Hit control alt delete and go to processes and see if there's something sucking up your CPU. If it looks like nothing is the culprit or it's just system idle process I don't know what to tell you bro.

Didja check your power supply?

Quote from: Wind-up Clock;1596165Didja check your power supply?

what about it.

also there's nothing out of the ordinary in my processes.

so i tried doing the switch on my power supply from 115 to 230 not like i know what the hell the numbers mean but my computer wouldn't boot up so fuck what do i do now

Quote from: Joey;1596416so i tried doing the switch on my power supply from 115 to 230 not like i know what the hell the numbers mean but my computer wouldn't boot up so fuck what do i do now

hahaha NEVER change the voltage you dopey man. that's a regional setting so you kinda just overloaded your PSU and blew it up.

Quote from: Joey;1596416so i tried doing the switch on my power supply from 115 to 230 not like i know what the hell the numbers mean but my computer wouldn't boot up so fuck what do i do now

Hall of fame-er right here.

Quote from: I'M URCHIN_CLOCK HAHAHA;1596422hahaha NEVER change the voltage you dopey man. that's a regional setting so you kinda just overloaded your PSU and blew it up.

well the thing still works sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I meant was your power supply rated for what the card needs.

A new card may need more juice, i.e. a new card may need 350Watts or something, and you may need to swap out your power source for a more powerful one.

Read the card's system requirements.

new card needs 350w. my power supply is 400w.

Quote from: Joey;1596469new card needs 350w. my power supply is 400w.

350w was likely the bare minimum recommendation for running the card alone. with a quadcore as well i'd suggest 500w or more.

Quote from: I'M URCHIN_CLOCK HAHAHA;1596470350w was likely the bare minimum recommendation for running the card alone. with a quadcore as well i'd suggest 500w or more.

that's what godclock said too.
would
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152028

fit inside of

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113077

?

yes?
can you even tell?
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yes

you just told me on aim yofu dlakfjd

Did you try pressing B?

Lol, 530watt is probably not enough.
Gimme a list of your specs (links would be best):
CPU: dual, quad, GHz?
RAM: How much? How fast?
Card: Type? MB?
Number of fans and hard drives, any other peripherals or cards (sound card etc.)

At this moment, I would recommend 600 watts.

After studying the computer you linked to, I would definitely recommend at LEAST 600W for best performance.
The graphics card will take ~400W alone, and the processor will take ~100W. That's already 500W, and usage will probably increase under load (not counting RAM and hard drives, though they generally take only a few watts).
Of course, you can make your computer run on a 530W PSU but that doesn't mean it will run at its potential.

Suggestions:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121041
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817162014
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817339024

roman saves the day whoooooo
going to buy one of those and then i'll post back here and say how it didn't work and my computer still sucks

my new power supply came in today. the last one on the 3 you linked.
the processor is still running like mad after installing it.
soooooo... what now

Quote from: Fat Joey;1602799my new power supply came in today. the last one on the 3 you linked.
the processor is still running like mad after installing it.
soooooo... what now

That's one thing fixed. Now you should do some tests. Tell us what happens when the graphics card is not hooked up.

Quote from: RomanClock;1602812That's one thing fixed. Now you should do some tests. Tell us what happens when the graphics card is not hooked up.

Unplug the video card and use the old integrated card?
Or unplug the card and turn the computer on?

Quote from: Fat Joey;1602814Unplug the video card and use the old integrated card?
Or unplug the card and turn the computer on?

Unplug the card from the power, if it makes noise (because it might make an annoying beeping noise) just turn off your computer and take out the card entirely (Only if you feel you can do it safely!) and then start your computer.
Then give us the readings.

If it still goes crazy, it's probably a driver issue.

(Don't worry about the PSU, its a good investment)

I don't think I understand what you're saying. Okay, I unplug the card. Then what does my vga cable go into? If I plugged it into the one on my computer, it would just use the integrated video card.

Also, the video card that I use doesn't require any power from the PSU through a cable.

Quote from: Fat Joey;1602856If I plugged it into the one on my computer, it would just use the integrated video card.

Yea and? Is there something wrong with that? You still need to see what the processor is doing without the card.

If it doesn't help, there could be a few more things I can think of:
1. CPU fan isn't working properly and its getting hotter than it should. Get SpeedFan and tell us what the temps are.
2. The graphics driver has some kind of problem (wrong version maybe), if so download a new driver here
3. Some other program is causing a problem, in which case try booting in safe mode and see if the problem persist and report findings here.

Quote from: RomanClock;1602862Yea and? Is there something wrong with that? You still need to see what the processor is doing without the card.

If it doesn't help, there could be a few more things I can think of:
1. CPU fan isn't working properly and its getting hotter than it should. Get SpeedFan and tell us what the temps are.
2. The graphics driver has some kind of problem (wrong version maybe), if so download a new driver here
3. Some other program is causing a problem, in which case try booting in safe mode and see if the problem persist and report findings here.

Oh okay, you said readings, so I thought I was supposed to get some kind of BIOS screen or something. I'm at Driver's Ed right now and posting from my phone but I'll check these out when I get home.

Thanks for all the help Roman.

Okay well since the new PSU and the drivers, the CPU usage sits at around 50% now.
Which is better, but still not what it should be doing.

(https://clockcrew.net/talk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.myfrogbag.com%2Fmh3l6e%2Fspeedfan.png&hash=a8f7d29f2fb96a6c8b96f0d083b2d1d87f017599)

In safe mode,
(https://clockcrew.net/talk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.myfrogbag.com%2Fmh3l6e%2Fspeedfansafemode.png&hash=a0491aebb4babbac9b08303b4e9493fd237317c0)
...

edit: Wanted to make a note that even though the computer said it was using 0-3% of the CPU, it was still really loud.

Go to the Exotics Tab and click Show the Magic so I can see that (don't need safe mode). The thing about SpeedFan is that its not always easy to tell whats what, the Exotics tab helps by grouping them.

And the noise: What did it sound like and what was making it?

The next step will be to look at the software side like processes and etc. Safe mode CPU usage indicates its probably some non-essential component, or that there is some kind of compatibility issues.

could just be the cooling fan on either the CPU or GPU, did you completely remove the graphics card to see if it made the sound? Does it make the sound immediately after turning it on? Does the sound ever stop then restart?

I'm not entire convinced you actually checked your processes for any that were using large amounts of your CPU.

Also it does no harm to a computer if you switch to a higher input voltage setting on the power supply than your region. What happens usually is it cuts your voltage in half, and your computer usually won't POST. It looks like a bad failure but you can just flip the switch back over.

I used to do that at work and make the IT people flip shit because they don't ever check the hardware thoroughly.

Also has anyone thought that the CPU usage might not be so much the problem, rather, it's just hella hot inside his case?

Quote from: Enthusiastic Angra Fan;1603412I'm not entire convinced you actually checked your processes for any that were using large amounts of your CPU.

http://files.myfrogbag.com/qwkqce/forheliopos.jpg

Quote from: RomanClock;1603022Go to the Exotics Tab and click Show the Magic so I can see that (don't need safe mode). The thing about SpeedFan is that its not always easy to tell whats what, the Exotics tab helps by grouping them.

http://files.myfrogbag.com/qwkqce/exotics.jpg

Quote from: RabidClock;1603411could just be the cooling fan on either the CPU or GPU, did you completely remove the graphics card to see if it made the sound? Does it make the sound immediately after turning it on? Does the sound ever stop then restart?

Seeing as the sound started AFTER I put the GPU in, I'm almost positive taking it out would stop the noise.
I'll go ahead and check right now though.

Quote from: Fat Joey;1603448http://files.myfrogbag.com/qwkqce/forheliopos.jpg

You could do me a favor and get a picture exactly like this but instead get one when the cpu usage is <90%?

Quote from: Enthusiastic Angra Fan;1603481You could do me a favor and get a picture exactly like this but instead get one when the cpu usage is <90%?

I think this is sufficient on account of it's already beyond fifty and he's not really doing anything. I'd say the problem is with the almost forty processes not shown on that screen. Maybe vista is configured to hide that or something. I may never understand that OS.

Quote from: Solenoidclock;1603518I think this is sufficient on account of it's already beyond fifty and he's not really doing anything. I'd say the problem is with the almost forty processes not shown on that screen. Maybe vista is configured to hide that or something. I may never understand that OS.

Roman had me take that one for him.
He couldn't figure out what was wrong with it.

Sort by memory. I'm really suspicious of that svchost that's hogging all that processor time, is it still like that or was that just a fluke of the moment?

http://files.myfrogbag.com/qwkqce/allusers.jpg

It's always like that.

Quote from: Fat Joey;1603448Seeing as the sound started AFTER I put the GPU in, I'm almost positive taking it out would stop the noise.
I'll go ahead and check right now though.

Don't get smart with me boy, you came in here asking for help and normally I get paid around $70/hour for my IT support. The reason I ask is it could be a physical problem with a fan, you haven't been very descriptive so far. We don't know specifically where the sound is coming from, whether it's your cooling fan on the CPU GPU or just a case fan. If one of those fins gets damaged it throws off the balance, or a bearing could go out causing a terrible racket. You just said it's a noise - does it sound like a grinding, a whirring, maybe a small child screaming at the top of it's lungs?

Quote from: Fat Joey;1603524http://files.myfrogbag.com/qwkqce/allusers.jpg

It's always like that.

According to your other post, the CPU usage seems totally in line with that the processes say they are using. I'd suggest ending that one '20 cpu using svchost' for kicks.

Quote from: RabidClock;1603776Don't get smart with me boy, you came in here asking for help and normally I get paid around $70/hour for my IT support. The reason I ask is it could be a physical problem with a fan, you haven't been very descriptive so far. We don't know specifically where the sound is coming from, whether it's your cooling fan on the CPU GPU or just a case fan. If one of those fins gets damaged it throws off the balance, or a bearing could go out causing a terrible racket. You just said it's a noise - does it sound like a grinding, a whirring, maybe a small child screaming at the top of it's lungs?

Didn't mean for that to sound smart, sorry about that. And the noise is just a fan, at least that's what it sounds like.

Quote from: Enthusiastic Angra Fan;1603792According to your other post, the CPU usage seems totally in line with that the processes say they are using. I'd suggest ending that one '20 cpu using svchost' for kicks.

I ended it and my CPU usage jumped down to like 5% and then I got some DCOM message and my computer restarted haha.

Quote from: Fat Joey;1603820Didn't mean for that to sound smart, sorry about that. And the noise is just a fan, at least that's what it sounds like.

Open up the case and turn it on, try to pinpoint which fan it is. I could be that the one on your GPU is bad and making too much noise, in that case you would send it back and get a new GPU. It could also be that your graphics card's fan is just that loud since you're use to your integrated setup.

Oh, sorry for snapping at you, people ask me for help with their computers and generally its something silly, so when I suggest trying to do something very simple I tend to get a smart ass response and it really gets under my skin. I thought you were coming off like that is all.

Quote from: RabidClock;1603824Open up the case and turn it on, try to pinpoint which fan it is. I could be that the one on your GPU is bad and making too much noise, in that case you would send it back and get a new GPU. It could also be that your graphics card's fan is just that loud since you're use to your integrated setup.

Oh, sorry for snapping at you, people ask me for help with their computers and generally its something silly, so when I suggest trying to do something very simple I tend to get a smart ass response and it really gets under my skin. I thought you were coming off like that is all.

Opened up the case and started the computer. From the moment the computer turns on, the computer goes into full throttle. From what I can tell it's the CPU fan making being loud.

Took the video card out, plugged everything back in. Computer started like normal, quiet. CPU fan was quiet.

Put the video card back in but left the vga cable into the integrated one. Don't think this changed anything lol, but I thought I'd try it just in case. CPU fan was loud, nothing on screen.

blah.

Quote from: Fat Joey;1603885Opened up the case and started the computer. From the moment the computer turns on, the computer goes into full throttle. From what I can tell it's the CPU fan making being loud.

Took the video card out, plugged everything back in. Computer started like normal, quiet. CPU fan was quiet.

Put the video card back in but left the vga cable into the integrated one. Don't think this changed anything lol, but I thought I'd try it just in case. CPU fan was loud, nothing on screen.

blah.

That is some rather odd behavior, I'm not sure how another card could cause the cpu fan to come on full blast. One thing you may have to do is get an adapter to pull power from a 12v cable rather than off the motherboard.

I would try working with the processes and fan settings the others are working you through first.

Quote from: RabidClock;1603894That is some rather odd behavior, I'm not sure how another card could cause the cpu fan to come on full blast. One thing you may have to do is get an adapter to pull power from a 12v cable rather than off the motherboard.

I would try working with the processes and fan settings the others are working you through first.

Yeah, I looked for a place to to plug something in on the card to give it power but I didn't see anything.

Also, did you mean something like this?
http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2607279

Quote from: Fat Joey;1603899Yeah, I looked for a place to to plug something in on the card to give it power but I didn't see anything.

Also, did you mean something like this?
http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2607279

Thats exactly the cable I was thinking of, I'm thinking for whatever reason pluging your fan into the motherboard from the GPU is confusing it and causing all fans to run at max speed.

Quote from: RabidClock;1603998Thats exactly the cable I was thinking of, I'm thinking for whatever reason pluging your fan into the motherboard from the GPU is confusing it and causing all fans to run at max speed.

So that would mean the fan for my CPU would get power from the PSU, right?
Or my GPU fan?

Quote from: Fat Joey;1604000So that would mean the fan for my CPU would get power from the PSU, right?
Or my GPU fan?

you GPU fan would pull power from the PSU - just to make sure your GPU does have a cable that plugs into the motherboard for the fan correct?

Quote from: RabidClock;1604291you GPU fan would pull power from the PSU - just to make sure your GPU does have a cable that plugs into the motherboard for the fan correct?

No it doesn't. All I did was stick it in the slot and that's it. I thought it would be a lot trickier than that but nope.

Quote from: Fat Joey;1604327No it doesn't. All I did was stick it in the slot and that's it. I thought it would be a lot trickier than that but nope.

Hmm well this problem may be very tricky to correct, it may be a compatibility issue with your motherboard and the pci card. You said it gets noisy as soon as you turn it on correct? If its noisy before POST then it's a hardware issue, if it's noisy after POST then it's Vista.