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How has this not been posted before?

this looks kind of ridiculous
but in cameron we trust.

Well i saw it couple of days ago and it didn't really "wow" me or anything. The soldier falls in love with local, switches side kinda thing is pretty obvious. I do like that everything is shot with 2 high def camera's taped together though.

Yah, i'm just not... interested.

Looks lame.

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Seriously you guys. SERIOUSLY

oh, god, delgo, really?

we're comparing james cameron's latest to delgo?

This movie will be great you guys are just stupid



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I don't think I can make it any plainer.

Looks like a very ok video game

I really hate James Cameron

savages I'm living with savages

I wonder how many people are going to hate this movie out of spite for how much time he wasted in Ubisoft's E3 show.

I'm glad that we're finally getting a trailer. Apparently in the game you have to genocide everything on the entire planet that isn't human.

Seems kinda inconvenient.

Quote from: Dark Propaganda;1654762I don't think I can make it any plainer.

Okayyyy

Quote from: bunnyclock;1654841Okayyyy

SPACE. INDIANS.

Quote from: Slurpee;1654815savages I'm living with savages

haha you live on the internet WHAT A BIG NERD

Quote from: Dark Propaganda;1655044SPACE. INDIANS.

I'm sure there's something more to it than that

considering the name of the movie

I thought this was going to be about Avatar the last air bender...

http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=133552

Yea. Im excited

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They hyped the game as much as the movie, and the game sucks chodes.

Still going to check out how the movie turns.

pocahontas
IN SPACE!

remember when the director of american graffiti made the hidden fortress IN SPACE?

it was a pretty big deal. heh. B]

Quote from: Slurpee;1703493remember when the director of american graffiti made the hidden fortress IN SPACE?

it was a pretty big deal. heh. B]

yeah, except when he had a big gap between making films he turned into one of the most hated filmmakers in the world

it was a pretty big deal. heh.

It's really weird how everyone on the internet was hating on this movie for seemingly no reason. I think it looks pretty neat.

Quote from: Poltergeist;1703536It's really weird how everyone on the internet was hating on this movie for seemingly no reason. I think it looks pretty neat.

For what reasons do they hate? I think it looks pretty neat too, what with all them heli gunships and dakka dakka they got going on.

Of course, i do sense the inevitable "humans are bastards" thing in this movie, correct me if i;m wrong.

Quote from: Poltergeist;1703536It's really weird how everyone on the internet was hating on this movie for seemingly no reason. I think it looks pretty neat.

I think a big reason is because he spent an eternity talking about it without even showing an image of it in E3.

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But as I already said, I am giving it a chance to be good.

looks alright, the blue natives look a little gay though

yeah uh james cameron is responsible for the first two terminators and aliens so uh i don't really know why you guys are being tarded.

Quote from: PEYOTE;1703958yeah uh james cameron is responsible for the first two terminators and aliens so uh i don't really know why you guys are being tarded.

and Titanic.


That being said T2 was good more than Titanic was bad.

people act like titanic was bad just because it was a big deal, but it was a good movie, so

yeah Titanic was pretty good if youre not a contrarian nerd

Quote from: Poltergeist;1703972and Titanic.


That being said T2 was good more than Titanic was bad.

Yea highest grossing movie ever, best picture 1997, what a pile of shit

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im just angry because it has such an obvious "humans suck" thing

Quote from: PatriotClock;1704282Yea highest grossing movie ever, best picture 1997, what a pile of shit

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It may shock you to hear this, but Oscars don't denote quality. they're usually "which film made the most money and took the least risks and still qualify as 'good'?"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375679/

I don't care if it has an 8.0, if you watched and actually enjoyed this movie you must be I'm a edgy teen somehow. More examples: How Green Was My Valley beating Citizen Kane, Forrest Gump beating Pulp Fiction, Kramer VS Kramer beating Apocalypse Now, Ordinary People beating Ragin Bull, A Beautiful Mind winning anything at all. Kubrick only ever got one Oscar for special effects, of all things. Fuck, Hitchcock never won best picture. Jesus, the BLIND SIDE is being talked about for an Oscar nomination.

To be honest, a great deal of Directors don't give a shit about the Oscars, becase the Oscars usually only make safe choices: movies that deal with "big issues" and made lots of money. Right now the most pretigious awards for film makers is the Cannes Film Festival's Gold Palm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palme_d%27Or

And I wouldn't really blame you if you hadn't heard of a great deal of those winners.
Also I didn't despise Titanic or anything, I just didn't really care for it much. It was far too long for what it was, and the drama felt forced and incredibly maudlin.

and by god, star wars lost to annie hall.

Quote from: Slurpee;1704349and by god, star wars lost to annie hall.

You know I really wanted to post that as well but for some reason I thought it would devalue my little bitch fit

Planet of the Apes won an Oscar for the ape makeup effects the same year 2001: A Space Odyssey wasn't even nominated.
Let me put it this way: Eminem has an Oscar. End of Oscar discussion.

And the reason why people are hating on it is that James Cameron is an arrogant prick who loves the sound of his own voice. He has this reputation as the "master storyteller" which is utter bullshit as none of his films are remembered for their strong storytelling. And before you say "HAY TERNIMATOR WAS COOL" you should remember that not only do those films have a massive fucking hole in them, he also acknowledged that he essentially lifted the story from 2 episodes of the Outer Limits.
He has also been pompously gloating about Avatar for a full decade about how it's going to "change movies forever" and all this arrogant bullshit, so people are ready to jump on any slight flaw in it just to burst his dickhead bubble.

Also, Titanic was shit. Stop disagreeing.


Also also, no matter what your opinion of Aliens, it took an excellent innovative horror film and turned it into a dumbass testosterone pumped action movie. This is annoying.

Also also also, Dark Angel sucked.

Quote from: Biblo;1704385Planet of the Apes won an Oscar for the ape makeup effects the same year 2001: A Space Odyssey wasn't even nominated.
Let me put it this way: Eminem has an Oscar. End of Oscar discussion.

And the reason why people are hating on it is that James Cameron is an arrogant prick who loves the sound of his own voice. He has this reputation as the "master storyteller" which is utter bullshit as none of his films are remembered for their strong storytelling. And before you say "HAY TERNIMATOR WAS COOL" you should remember that not only do those films have a massive fucking hole in them, he also acknowledged that he essentially lifted the story from 2 episodes of the Outer Limits.
He has also been pompously gloating about Avatar for a full decade about how it's going to "change movies forever" and all this arrogant bullshit, so people are ready to jump on any slight flaw in it just to burst his dickhead bubble.

Also, Titanic was shit. Stop disagreeing.


Also also, no matter what your opinion of Aliens, it took an excellent innovative horror film and turned it into a dumbass testosterone pumped action movie. This is annoying.

Also also also, Dark Angel sucked.

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haters gonna hate B]

i mostly liked aliens
mostly

hmm, im not huge on seeing it, but it'll probably be decent

WORDS EATEN

I really liked this film!

I'll start by saying I've never been a fan of Cameron's. I don't like the Terminator movies and Aliens always pissed me off because I loved the original so much. And Titanic was so overblown and stupid it annoyed the crap out of me.

But this...
First thing I'll say is it's very long. Too long? Hard to say, but certainly very. About an hour before the end I was thinking "this is dragging a little. oh fuck, am I gonna be hating it and begging it to fucking stop by the end like so many other movies?" but it came back and the last 20 minutes are absolutely great!

(This bit doesn't have any spoilers per se but I talk a bit about the story structure and character elements so make your own decision)
The story isn't particularly ground breaking but it's solid and works. Sometimes sticking to the formula is a good idea and it certainly is in Avatar. It's essentially Dances With Wolves with a kick ass action sequence at the end.
The characters aren't exactly brand spanking new either, it has quite a few clichés in terms of characters (a General who's sick of the science guys and wants to get to the action) and dialogue (you have a good heart.) But again, it works. It's more of a "haha, oh jeez ok" rather than a "oh fuck off that's so tired!!"
The emotion and the action sells and I gave a fuck during the final showdown. Which is all that's really needed in a movie like this.

The special effects are astounding. The new motion capture methods are beautiful and subtle, especially during the facial closeups. I found myself wanting to just watch people's faces for the entire movie, studying their lips, teeth and nose wrinkles. They really gel. Do they look 100% real? Hard to say, but they look consistant. There's no glaring "UGH THAT LOOKS FAKE" moment. Everything gels together in a great way. If you watch The Jungle Book, none of it looks real, but it all looks like it fits in the same world. Avatar does this except there's live action elements as well so that's very impressive.
The 3D is cool and helps to immerse you in the film but I found my eyes straining and hurting pretty early on and it's a long fucking film (161 mins!) so that's a tough call. Some of it was very nice though. Flakes of ash floating around, very pretty.

So all in all it's a good movie! Decent flow to it, good atmosphere, satisfying action and impressive visuals.

Only Cameron film I like!

Will it change cinema forever? The motion capture technology will certainly widen some scopes but otherwise it's just a solid action flick.

I'm glad you liked it, Biblo. It left me pretty speechless.

I'll see it again in IMAX 3D, but I need to give myself a few days to... let my pupils re-dilate, shall we say.

im going to see it today

Saw it last night in 3D. It was breathtaking. While I'm no movie critic or something, I'm going to say that was the best movie I have ever seen. I really want to go see it in IMAX now.

I just really hope they don't make sequel. That would just put it to shame.

Quote from: torch;1706985Saw it last night in 3D. It was breathtaking. While I'm no movie critic or something, I'm going to say that was the best movie I have ever seen. I really want to go see it in IMAX now.

I just really hope they don't make sequel. That would just put it to shame.

haha that's a brilliant review

I loved it, the 3D glasses made my face hurt though. I want to see it again.

Just saw it in Imax 3d. Long story short = movie is baller

Quote from: chrimssas polterggeist;1704347It may shock you to hear this, but Oscars don't denote quality. they're usually "which film made the most money and took the least risks and still qualify as 'good'?"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375679/

I don't care if it has an 8.0, if you watched and actually enjoyed this movie you must be I'm a edgy teen somehow. More examples: How Green Was My Valley beating Citizen Kane, Forrest Gump beating Pulp Fiction, Kramer VS Kramer beating Apocalypse Now, Ordinary People beating Ragin Bull, A Beautiful Mind winning anything at all. Kubrick only ever got one Oscar for special effects, of all things. Fuck, Hitchcock never won best picture. Jesus, the BLIND SIDE is being talked about for an Oscar nomination.

To be honest, a great deal of Directors don't give a shit about the Oscars, becase the Oscars usually only make safe choices: movies that deal with "big issues" and made lots of money. Right now the most pretigious awards for film makers is the Cannes Film Festival's Gold Palm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palme_d%27Or

And I wouldn't really blame you if you hadn't heard of a great deal of those winners.
Also I didn't despise Titanic or anything, I just didn't really care for it much. It was far too long for what it was, and the drama felt forced and incredibly maudlin.

Actually Hitchcock directed Best Picture 1940, Rebecca. Maybe you should only bold things if you are correct next time champ.

Also I prefer Ordinary People to Raging Bull and Forrest Gump is my favorite movie of all time sooooo...

i saw it
i mean it looked nice but so the fuck what the story was so predictable and tired that the visuals didnt really recover it for me

Quote from: PatriotClock;1707309Actually Hitchcock directed Best Picture 1940, Rebecca. Maybe you should only bold things if you are correct next time champ.
 
Also I prefer Ordinary People to Raging Bull and Forrest Gump is my favorite movie of all time sooooo...

you're embarrassing yourself


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Wow, this movie was great. The part at the middle (at least I think it was the middle because that's when the cinema had a break.) was sort of boring, I mean the obvious training montage of him becoming really good and stuff was kinda lame but the movie made up for that with the cool fights at the end and also the beginning was pretty great because everything felt so big. I mean the bulldozer runs past his wheelchair at the start and you can see these huge arrows lodged into the tires that was just superb. I'm really glad I saw it

liked it, only complaint was some of the dialouge being too cliche and a huge chunk of that coming mainly from the general. really pretty to look at also.

Quote from: ActionClock;1707674liked it, only complaint was some of the dialouge being too cliche and a huge chunk of that coming mainly from the general. really pretty to look at also.

Yeah the story was pretty cliché. But the visuals.. Jesus Christ. That planet at the very beginning woahhhh woaahhh woahhhh

i think it looks alright. the CGI is getting better. remember final fantasy? everyone that was pretty good CGI but now THIS comes along. with tenchology getting better, im thinking the visual effects will run the movie. Plus Cameron has always been know for good scripting as well.

I don't really care if most of it was done in front of blue screens I am impressed that the actors looked so much like their na'vi counterparts although sigourney weaver was a pretty ugly na'vi

Haha, the Bum Review (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/bum-reviews/15043-ep036) of Avatar said he didn't like it, and that somehow seemed to bring out all the Nostalgia Critic fans that are "calling out" Avatar for being "unoriginal and just pretty" and calling people that liked it "duped".

It's funny how opinions can go when someone famous suddenly agrees with you. :rolleyes:

I wish I could have avoided seeing people take sides on it, since I really liked it and didn't want my admiration for the film marred by conflict, but I guess that's just naïve.

Just saw it.

It's worth seeing just for the effects, the movie is gorgeous and it's the first time 3D has not annoyed me.

Quote from: SnakeClock;1707898Haha, the Bum Review of Avatar said he didn't like it, and that somehow seemed to bring out all the Nostalgia Critic fans that are "calling out" Avatar for being "unoriginal and just pretty" and calling people that liked it "duped".

wow this guy never fails to be an irritating little shit

Just saw it, it was awesome.

blue chick needed bigger tits though.

I saw it today too, and in 3D, and liked it.
 
And I agree with Pirate

Blue Indian type people defending their giant tree with glowing ball thingies from an invader.

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whether its amazing or not, im gunna see it twice, in IMAX3D both times, SO IT HAD BETTER BE KICKASS

I also agree with pirate

When I saw the beginning of the trailer I thought it was about Warcraft.

Quote from: Moltar;1709252it left me speechless. overwhelmed. it was beautiful. I want to go back to pandora.

Everybody wants to go back to pandora :(

I enjoyed it thoroughly. Every second my eyes were barraged by a visual masterpiece. As for the plot, I liked "Dances with Wolves," so it was inevitable that I enjoy this movie. Great flick. I recommend seeing it in 3D though. The 3D was very clean and made the movie seem more realistic then it already was. And I agree with PirateClock. About the tits. Indeed.

i just saw it, it was really good i would suggest it to anyone.

Im seeing it again tonight. I hope my friends dont want to see it in Imax, it was baller but it cost me 15 bucks. They havent seen the movie yet so they probably will want to imax it =/

I enjoyed it.

I saw it in IMAX 3D yesterday.

Holy shit the writting was SO BAD. It was painful. All the characters that turned out to be "good guys" (ie traitors) had personalities and never made any mistakes, but the eventual "bad guys" where all shallow stereotypes who had little motive for their actions, often taking the more difficult of two options just so they could look more evil.

The human ships are designed I'm a edgy teenly. They have huge ships and holographic displays, why the hell do they have open air gun turrets and glass cockpits? Especially on the mechas. Plus all the helicopters seem to be made of C4, blowing up violently from a single arrow shot at a propeller or a bump into a cliff.

The main character was also an epic idiot who had no motive for practically anything he does ever and acts totally unrealistically.


To spite all the shit in this movie though, the graphics ARE badass, and I can't seem to bring myself to hate a movie where a badass drill instructor in a mecha has a knife fight with an alien hippy riding a space panther.

edit: Btw i haven't read or watched any reviews yet so that's just my take on the shit writing.
edit2: The Bums review was pretty spot on, to spite the terrible and unfunny character of the "bum" he used to give it.
edit3: It also bugged me how the deaths of a ton of the humans during the raid is written off and ignored while we get slow-mo "THIS IS SO SAD" sequences of random no-name smurfs dieing.

Quote from: Converse;1709287Everybody wants to go back to pandora :(

You wouldn't last 5 minutes.

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Quoteindians in space

I'm sure there's something more to it than that

considering the name of the movie

Turns out you're wrong!

Was anybody else bothered by how this movie's planet has the same name as Borderland's?

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HOW THE FUCK HAS NOBODY POSTED THIS YET

Quote from: Silly Putty Clock;1710751HOW THE FUCK HAS NOBODY POSTED THIS YET

That joke has already been made several times in this thread, including once on the first page.

Quote from: Thor;1710752That joke has already been made several times in this thread, including once on the first page.

Oh.

this basically summarizes my opinion (http://www.cracked.com/article/240_avatar-horribly-written-way-too-long-totally-worth-it/)

overall, inconsistent, but the amazing bits are really amazing.

Quote from: Thor;1710745The human ships are designed I'm a edgy teenly. They have huge ships and holographic displays, why the hell do they have open air gun turrets and glass cockpits? Especially on the mechas. Plus all the helicopters seem to be made of C4, blowing up violently from a single arrow shot at a propeller or a bump into a cliff.

The vehicles were awesome man. They were awesome. The helicopters looked like sometihng the US army would actually build in the future. And I don't remember them violently exploding by a bump but isn't it like that in every movie ever ever? And the arrows were like five feet long mannnn

yeah i was wondering why everything had glass cockpits
edit: fuck ribs way to write a gigantic essay just before i post

My sister was asking why the mech would have a knife in the first place. I said that it was the jungle. You had to have a knife in the jungle. no exceptions.

The movie was pretty, no doubt, but it was pretty damn campy at some times, horribly cliche at the others. I'd say Commander McBadass was one of the better parts of the movie, as he sipped coffee while Yggdrasil burned and holding his breath on at least 3 separate occasions to lay down some whup-ass.

Yeah man he was badass. I didn't like how he told them he could get his scars removed on earth but he wants to keep them to keep reminding him how everything out there wants to kill humans. Who wants to keep scars on their head ?

Also, I like the alien designs a lot but I didn't like how they just had to put six legs on fucking everything. Those horses looked very uncomfortable!  And the thanator was awesome but goddamn it man stop putting an extra pair of legs on stuff to make it look alien!!

Saw this movie. Loved it. But I'm the type too make great exceptions when presented with a fully realized fantasy world in my fiction, and Pandora is at least as cool as 9 and Hellboy II, which I gave similar passes.

Everybody says it was predictable, but, come on. It's not completely predictable, you've just seen the basic song and dance before. It might have been obvious Sigourney Weaver wasn't going to make it through the speed force, but I thought the magic brain transfer ceremony payoff would be used to bail Sam Worthington out of wounds he'd sustain with the boss monster, not just at the end for no reason. (little sardonic humor there for ya thanks I'll be here all week) I also thought the breath mask thing would have a cooler payoff. But more importantly, I knew it would have a payoff. The movie's good enough that I could worry about how cool the robot battle suit payoff would be, and not on, say, whether the director understood the basic components of a film, like I've experienced a lot in the last couple of years. Avatar is in that unfortunate place where it's good enough that the critical thinking center of your brain activates, and then it falls short.

My only major complaints are that after nerd guy fell out of his body, and put on a mask and grabbed a gun and ran off to join the battle, we didn't see him again for the rest of the fight. It was just to get him out of the way for the showdown with Commander Badass. Booty! I likes me some nerd guy. I wanted nerd guy to run interference on Commander Badass. He'd just get his ass kicked, but it'd at least mix it up. As it is, the movie closes up the military/capitalism vs. diplomacy/science conflict with a marine fighting another marine.

Also, yeah, the black and white morality kind of took me out of the movie. I agree with the message about the evils of the destruction of nature, and it took me out of it. Let's be straight: there's a reason there aren't any fat Na'vi. They're barely surviving on what subsistence their co-existence with nature can provide. Commander Badass might've been motivated by "Kill for no reason! HOO-RAH!" but to the folks on the dead planet, this operation, and the wonderflonium it would provide, probably would have helped provide a standard of living that would, say, keep their babies from dying of senseless illnesses because they wouldn't be living in a fucking hole in a damned tree. If the Na'vi somehow elevated above these problems without the standard human "try lighting things on fire, and making more space for beef cows and corn" method, it wasn't clear, and if not, their lives probably weren't super sweet. The dichotomy was fuzzy. I watched this movie with my mom and aunt, and they seemed to take away the obvious "Man, that's the same shit we pull all the time," message, but I had to point out that we were in a parking lot on top of where we pulled that shit on our country's indigenous population, and living on the convenience that those atrocities provided. I didn't bother pointing out that the parking lot was probably a lot more useful in most practical senses than whatever grass may've grown there previously, or that our trees don't have a neural network connecting them to a massive organic machine of somewhat lovecraftian nature. We went to Target Greatland afterward. The irony did not escape me. I forget where I was going with this, but I guess the point is Avatar reminded me to feel guilty about ruining the world for my own personal convenience, even if it wasn't exactly laser-targetted about its methods.

I was going to compare the design of Pandora disfavorably to Oddworld, but it would take too long, and I don't really feel that passionately about it, and nobody would read it anyway.

To be honest... I didn't think eywa would answer his prayers. It might sound so obvious t osome that they will want to beat the fuck out of me for this but his prayer seemed so pointless. Kind of reminds me of real prayers and stuff. I was happy when all the dragons and armoured dino cows joined in!  Although the viper wolves seemed kind of pointless. Also, did anyone think that they spent too much time showing the animals? Like at the beginning, those tree monkeys; what the hell was up with that. Or the horse eating from the flower... Okay didn't need to see that. Or the viper wolf with babies.. Also didn't need to see that

Very good analysis of the movie corpsy. To clearify, by the main character not having motive I meant along the lines of him running around like crazy when he got in the new body, him splitting off from the group to molest plants shortly after, fucking the blue smurf, attacking the yellow plower things cameras and then later not explaining why he did it, ect. This character is just a never ending well of stupid.

You're comments are all spot on though

Quote from: Converse;1711116To be honest... I didn't think eywa would answer his prayers. It might sound so obvious t osome that they will want to beat the fuck out of me for this but his prayer seemed so pointless. Kind of reminds me of real prayers and stuff. I was happy when all the dragons and armoured dino cows joined in!  Although the viper wolves seemed kind of pointless.

They wouldn't have bothered showing him praying unless gaia was going to grant his wish. Especially since by that point they had already scientifically proven that the planet-god exists. Also, I couldn't think of any way other than sending animals the planet would answer. I'm figuring that's why all the animals have that convenient mind-link tentacle thing, for talking to the planet. Anyway, seemed pretty obvious to me.

QuoteAlso, did anyone think that they spent too much time showing the animals? Like at the beginning, those tree monkeys; what the hell was up with that. Or the horse eating from the flower... Okay didn't need to see that. Or the viper wolf with babies.. Also didn't need to see that

That was to show the beauty of nature and show why the main character was falling in love with the planet. Also a chance to show off the pretty wildlife models the CG team made.

The CGI was mediocre and the story was terrible and racist.

Quote from: RibsClock;1711132What's your idea of "good" CGI?

Something with artistic integrity. On that point and technically, Pan's Labyrinth's CGI is much more realistic and immersed, "gelled" as Biblo put it. At least from what I remember.

Your face is kind of vague.

Quote from: Converse;1711035Yeah man he was badass. I didn't like how he told them he could get his scars removed on earth but he wants to keep them to keep reminding him how everything out there wants to kill humans. Who wants to keep scars on their head ?

Whiskey wants to keep scars in HER FACE.

Saw it two days ago.

I liked it, but my complaints are:

• The deal was not "HUMANS ARE BAD OMG NOOOO", it was the villain being "I LIEK 2 BLOW SHIT UP AND STUFF Y'ALL SCIENSTSISTS R DUMBSHIT YEEHAW". It was more annoyingly stupid than reasonably bad.
• DeviantART, but not like we never saw it coming.
• Not directly related to the movie but, why the fuck didn´t Ubisoft hire Michel Ancel (Rayman, Beyond Good & Evil, Peter Jackson's King Kong) for the official game they whored the license so much about? I mean, the deal of alternate worlds and the relation of nature and magic is something he works a lot with. I will forgive it if they wanted him to focus 100% on BG&E2, though.
• I know that it's not news to find a comparison with 'Dance With Wolves', but it's just so uncanny sometimes. So whatever.
• He went all Rambo apeshit at the end. It's not something bad, but I found it weird.

Quote from: RibsClock;1711620In what way? Be specific.

hahahaha

Quote from: Converse;1711035Who wants to keep scars on their head?

Someone who wants to be ugly.

Quote from: RibsClock;1711293That's kind of vague, could you elaborate?

The models were just not that amazing. Texturing, sure, the skin is above par, but that's icing on the cake when you're boasting about revolutionizing 3D. As for the animation, it was all either stiff and unnatural or generic Disney overacting (see part where lady hisses when dude comes near dude's body). The creatures were better in animation realism in some cases, but much worse in that respect on form and general appearance.

The words and names were generic, uninspired fantasy shit (foreign-sounding, with reduplication and vanity apostrophes). The subtitles were in a tasteless Papyrus-esque display face.

It rehashes the old trope of the white man coming into (race goes here)'s tribe, at first being thwarted for lack of their tribal folksy wisdom, but then learning their ways and easily besting them, as is natural for a white man to do.

Grr those subtitles ruined my experience! RAGE

Quote from: Converse;1712703Grr those subtitles ruined my experience! RAGE

Let's cherry pick!

ITT Loki is to big of a geek to watch a sci-fi movie.  Mindblowing really.

Quote from: RibsClock;1712746Also this movie is a lot more fun if you go with friends and make jokes about it the entire time IMO

To be fair, the font they're using for Avatar is really awful.

Quote from: Munglai;1712867To be fair, the font they're using for Avatar is really awful.

True, i looks like the papyrus font.

Quote from: Zorak;1711615Saw it two days ago.

I liked it, but my complaints are:

• Not directly related to the movie but, why the fuck didn´t Ubisoft hire Michel Ancel (Rayman, Beyond Good & Evil, Peter Jackson's King Kong) for the official game they whored the license so much about? I mean, the deal of alternate worlds and the relation of nature and magic is something he works a lot with. I will forgive it if they wanted him to focus 100% on BG&E2, though.

After he clusterfucked the King Kong game, they weren't going to let him touch Avatar. I don't think Ancel's really into licensed properties.

Besides, the Avatar game was done by Ubisoft Montreal, the Prince of Persia and Assassin's Creed guys. Ancel works for Ubisoft Montpellier, if I remember.

Quote from: Zorak;1711615*]I know that it's not news to find a comparison with 'Dance With Wolves', but it's just so uncanny sometimes. So whatever.

I'm fairly sure Dances With Wolves doesn't have exclusive dominion of "Military man switches sides" stories. :p

Im going to make a movie with a Comic sans MS title.

Quote from: Tom Jansen;1712880Im going to make a movie with a Comic sans MS title.

Someone already did that.

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Every time I hear what Avatar compares to, it just gets funnier and funnier.

Quote from: Tempo;1713123Every time I hear what Avatar compares to, it just gets funnier and funnier.

What a lot of people don't get is that almost all movies have a basic plotline that just gets copied over and over with different people in different places.

Quote from: Sovereign;1713145What a lot of people don't get is that almost all movies have a basic plotline that just gets copied over and over with different people in different places.

And with Avatar, this has suddenly become scandalous and worth ridiculing. Weird.

Quote from: Tom Jansen;1712880Im going to make a movie with a Comic sans MS title.

And all of the scene transitions are taken from power point.

Quote from: Tempo;1713148And with Avatar, this has suddenly become scandalous and worth ridiculing. Weird.

Another thing is that studios WANT and almost demand that movies of a genre follow the same plot. They want to see their investment back so they don't like taking chances, using a plot that has worked 10000 times before is a safe bet.

Quote from: Brak's Dad;1713153And all of the scene transitions are taken from power point.

Kind of like star wars episode III?

So I saw it in 3-D.



The story is forseeable in every turn, all the characters are cliché to the point of silly:
Angry military dude who wants to shoot first ask questions never,
Scientist with attitude who is also a hippie and nobody likes or wants to understand her because she is the polar opposite of the military guy
Bloated capitalist that only cares about profit... which is redundant since if future companies are half as homosexuall as todays companies they're spaceships would drive on eco-fuel and their weapons would shoot corn,
Angry indian male who is rival of main protaganoist
Angry indian girl who is obvious match for main protaganoist (also the promised wife of Angry indian male ofcourse.)

The wildlife is nice even if it's mostly earth species painted with florescent lights... apperently florescent lights + smurf + pocahontas = great movie concept.


BUT! It is still a enjoyable movie, I have tons more to comment but in the end I don't really mind all that much... a movie can't get more polished or better than this because that would stray of the mainstream audience.

So all in all, from a personal perspective, 7/10, from a film critiques perspective, 8.5-9.5/10.

Quote from: RibsClock;1712746Also this movie is a lot more fun if you go with friends and make jokes about it the entire time IMO

I really wanted to say stuff like "Shiiiiit son, he got a better ride than you now! Guess he can score your girl now" in the Toruk scene. Sucks that my sisters took the movie too seriously.

Much as I love this film, all this talk makes me hope they do a RiffTrax of it.

Here's something of possible interest. The Na'Vi were originally going to look like this:

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http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2010/01/so_close_to_seeing_sweet_avata.php

QuoteIf you sync to your banshee and you’re syncing to a tree, why not sync into a person? I almost feel like you’ll have the most amazing orgasm, I guess. It was a very funny scene to shoot because there were so many technical things that sometimes you have to keep in mind that paying attention to all those might disrupt the fluidity of how a scene is supposed to take place.

They are basically raping trees and horses the entire movie.

I saw Avatar today and to be honest it was extremely average. The use of 3D was excellent and the best I've seen so far but the story, acting, special effects, design, music and everything else was just average. I wouldn't say I didn't enjoy it but I wouldn't bother watching it again.

Quote from: Sovereign;1713145What a lot of people don't get is that almost all movies have a basic plotline that just gets copied over and over with different people in different places.

I think most people know that. Every traditional story follows roughly the same structure but the structure is fairly vague - a hero leaves his comfortable life and enters a world (either physical or abstract) of excitement and danger. He is scared at first but then begins to like it, however then the threats become too great and he is tempted to run back home. Eventually some revelation inspires him to push through and find a way to solve the problem by combining the knowledge of the two worlds.

There is no story structure that says the hero has to be jaded by western civilisation and is taught to respect nature and the simple things in life, that is just James Cameron ripping off Pocahontas.

Quote from: Munglai;1713758There is no story structure that says the hero has to be jaded by western civilisation and is taught to respect nature and the simple things in life, that is just James Cameron ripping off Pocahontas.

I thought John Smith was generally indifferent to the Powhatan way of life, and didn't quite integrate with them the same way.

Quote from: Munglai;1713758There is no story structure that says the hero has to be jaded by western civilisation and is taught to respect nature and the simple things in life, that is just James Cameron ripping off Pocahontas.

Yeah I know there isn't but most movies do use a very simple formula, I'd look it up but I'm too lazy. The formula doesn't say what the hero has to be jaded by but it does say he has to be jaded by something.

Quote from: Sovereign;1713770The formula doesn't say what the hero has to be jaded by but it does say he has to be jaded by something.

Well how are you going to have conflict if your hero is pretty much okay with everything?

Quote from: Brak's Dad;1713153And all of the scene transitions are taken from power point.

You're going to make star wars episode 3?

Quote from: RibsClock;1713791Joke was already made homeslice

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFoh well

Quote from: RibsClock;1713783Not even necessarily that, the hero just needs to essentially have a change of perspective. The hero can just be ignorant or naive and then go through a disillusionment (the protagonist kind of does that here, thinking humans are the good guys at first, but he's also genuinely jaded because of his condition, his brother's death, etc.) it revolves around the conscious evolution of a character, and thus at the beginning the character is in a lower state, allowing it to end on a higher note.

Take Luke Skywalker for example; starts out a whiny farm boy who has a preconceived notion of being helpless to change the world around him, ignorant of the nature of the Empire or the Force. At the end of Return of the Jedi his character has evolved to the point where it can take place in the climactic final struggle due to his new-found awareness, and a huge part of the story in between is him overcoming his character's weaknesses to become a Jedi knight, with him refusing to kill Vader being ultimately the final step in his character's development, showing that he's reached the end of his personal quest.

It's a pretty good formula which emphasizes a common moral and has been used very successfully in stories for centuries, but going back to the Star Wars example that was a story that was done more like a tribute to old things and successfully recaptured a lot of it and brought new stuff to it to make it interesting whereas Avatar failed in the last part and instead of "recapturing" went more for "rebranding".

Plus I cannot emphasize enough that from the very beginning you knew almost exactly what would happen with Avatar, and as I'm sure you know that's always bugged me in movies or TV.

Bingo. Avatar didn't bring enough new stuff to the table to justify using a very basic story structure. If the ideas behind the story were really original then it would have been fine but pretty much everything in it has already been done by a videogame. The navi home town tree thing looks pretty much exactly like the night elf starting town in World of Warcraft. It's just all pretty unimaginative.

the 3D was good though.

So much text

So much alcohol in blood

most OK movie of all time
not special, not bad
just so sadly adapted to modern societies shitty mainstream

weep
weeps
but the bad men wont go away


they never do

:(

it was a good movie that was entertaining OK THATS ALL THAT MATTERS

The more I read about Avatar, the less I want to watch it.

I didn't like the movie that much and I don't want to go into exhaustive detail but

in the cheesy scene where they kiss, some young kid in the theater went "awww yeeeah" and made the scene tolerable

thank you, young kid

:salute:

you get a sex scene on the DVD if it hasn't been mentioned yet

Quote from: RibsClock;1713783Plus I cannot emphasize enough that from the very beginning you knew almost exactly what would happen with Avatar, and as I'm sure you know that's always bugged me in movies or TV.

This is exactly why I haven't seen it yet.

Also I'm sorry but all the aliens besides the Na'vi were really really badly designed. they were ugly and also really stupid and awkward looking. Like dog with six legs and rhino with impractical fucking horn that blocks it's eyes so it can't actually see anything.

And yeah, unobtanium. Woooooowwwwwwwww... Overall I thought the film was okay. I enjoyed it, kind of, but the biggest flaw to me was that the protagonist was incredibly unlikable, and there were so many moments in the film were logic seemed to take a back seat that I was kind of held back from enjoying it too much.

I saw it and I liked it ok. Although I just read this quote and it made me feel like starting a pointless internet debate.

Quote from: The director"The Thanator could eat a T-Rex and have the Alien Queen for dessert."

(thanator is that black panther thing that tries to eat sooly)

The alien queen is like twice as big as a thanator! (keep in mind na'vi are bigger than humans so that would mean the thanator is actually pretty darn big)

Also also,

I know the avatar joke has been made a dozen times already but notice how

has six legs and so does all the stuff on pandora! Interesting find thank you very much

Quote from: K3LTR0N;1713900it was a good movie that was entertaining OK THATS ALL THAT MATTERS

I didn't think it was that good or entertaining. Normally in a film I won't leave to go to the toilet even if I really need to but in Avatar I left before he rode on the big super dinosaur because I knew exactly what was going to happen. When I came back he was riding it and I knew he would be so I wasn't bothered.

Giving the audience what they want is one thing but you've still got to surprise them or the excitement is lost.

i just watched in IMAX 3D with my film class. it was pretty amazing but i think they could have cut about 40 minutes of it out.

This movie was missing one thing:

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Seriously, it needed more comic relief.

"oehh i can't see why we'd ever need a petabyte pirate u r dumb"

EAT A DICK ASSHOLES

Also im pretty sure Hive Tyrants and Carnifexs are bigger than both the Queen from Alien and the Thanator

Quote from: RibsClock;1713783Not even necessarily that, the hero just needs to essentially have a change of perspective.

That's what I meant only I chose my words wrong, but that's okay because I'm *~Dutch~*

On a side note, my favourite thing in the film was that the giant robot had a giant knife in its giant belt. I thought that was hilarious.

Also what was going on with the alien sex scene? Why did it go down like a human sex scene when they don't have human genitalia or anything?

Also where were all the Jurassic park 2-esque hunters who hunted the na'vi so they could make na'vi-on-human porn?

Quote from: RibsClock;1714412Not even. The alien queen was about the same size as the heavy lifting robot, which was smaller than the mecha gun robot from Avatar, which was smaller than the thanator, so the Thanator was much bigger.

(however as this things only attack, essentially, is biting, the alien queen could have killed it simply by letting it bite her and get its head dissolved by acid.)

Aaaaaaaaaaand that's my nerdiest post of the week!

I made this highly accurate size comparison. I guess you're right but the queen is taller though!

I wonder what would happen if they would connect their hair thingies together

Quote from: RibsClock;1714470Well I didn't look too close because I was too busy whispering jokes into my brother's ear, but I'm guessing they actually do have genitalia there (hence why they wear loin cloths in the first place instead of going naked) and that the neuro-connector braid thing is just for doing a vulcan mind-meld with six-legged horses.

Ok so then why did they have human genitalia? I think one of my major complaints is the complete lack of imagination as far as the aliens go. Obviously they wanted to make them easy to relate to so they couldn't have them look like Alien or anything but they could have gone a bit further than big blue indians. Why did all the alien animals have six legs but the navi were shaped just like humans? Come on designers, put a bit of effort in.

Didn't you fags read the article i posted (no you didn't)

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2010/01/so_close_to_seeing_sweet_avata.php
 ON SEX:  If you sync to your banshee and you’re syncing to a tree, why not sync into a person? I almost feel like you’ll have the most amazing orgasm, I guess.

Quote from: BunnyClock;1714475

I thought that was a drawing of them about to have sex.

Quote from: RibsClock;1714486Still beats star trek, where nose putty and hair define entire worlds.

Most expensive movie ever made VS virtually no budget. A fair comparison indeed.

Quote from: RibsClock;1714486Still beats star trek, where nose putty and hair define entire worlds.

Star Trek has its excuses though, what was Avatar's excuse? They should have spent some of that million billion dollar budget on some decent designers.

Quote from: RibsClock;1714501Well and also eleven other full-budget feature-length films. I know there might be an "excuse" for the shows, but for Generations, First Contact, Insurrection, Nemesis, and the recent "Star Trek" movie, each of which had special effects out the ass, what was their excuse?

Well to be honest I can't say I'm a big fan of their aliens either but it gets away with it because of the kind of stories they tell. Star Trek is set in the super super future and is about the universe being all civil and advanced and having diplomatic arguments and, for something like that, very humanoid aliens kind of works.

A story about very primitive aliens who have had pretty minimal human contact in which both the aliens' anatomy and culture is almost identical to ours is really pushing it. How much more exposure had the navi had to humans than the aliens in District 9? Because they were a hell of a lot more convincing.

Mostly though, Star Trek is an established brand so when I see their wrinkly forehead aliens I accept it. Avatar is something new and it's watched with fresh eyes and this kind of thing really stands out. I think Cameron was probably trying to be all classic sci-fi with his predictable plot and humanoid aliens and unobtanium but it just doesn't work without a substantial amount of originality to balance it out.

Hmm yes, I agree. A T-Rex is about the same size as a thanator


wait no, the reason why he made them so super humanoid is because it needs to be easy to fall in love with them like jake sooly did

Quote from: BunnyClock;1714510Hmm yes, I agree. A T-Rex is about the same size as a thanator


wait no, the reason why he made them so super humanoid is because it needs to be easy to fall in love with them like jake sooly did

Yeah I got that but a good design team should be able to make that possible without just making them big blue humans. I just think it's a bit of a cop out.

Quote from: RibsClock;1714501Well and also eleven other full-budget feature-length films. I know there might be an "excuse" for the shows, but for Generations, First Contact, Insurrection, Nemesis, and the recent "Star Trek" movie, each of which had special effects out the ass, what was their excuse?

I don't know much about the established canon of Star Trek, but I'm fairly sure at one point it states that all (or almost all) aliens in the Trek universe are evolved or mutated humans that left earth, but I could be wrong. Plus by the point those movies came out they had only had the established look of the series to work with.


oh wait, you guys DO know Cameron designed the aliens SPECIFICALLY so that people could see themselves having sex with it? He would design an alien then ask his friends if they'd fuck it, and if they said no he would go back and toy around with the design.

The reason aliens look humanoid is because it's easier to empathize and identify with them. Sure you could change the blue cat people to floating jellyfish the size of a aircraft carrier but i doubt many people will give a shit about them.

Quote from: Juror 8;1714512I don't know much about the established canon of Star Trek, but I'm fairly sure at one point it states that all (or almost all) aliens in the Trek universe are evolved or mutated humans that left earth, but I could be wrong. Plus by the point those movies came out they had only had the established look of the series to work with.

No you are definitely wrong.

Quote from: Phil Ken Sebben;1714514No you are definitely wrong.

My mistake!

Quote from: Juror 8;1714512Cameron designed the aliens SPECIFICALLY so that people could see themselves having sex with it?

alright guys let's just get this out there: did he succeed?

Quote from: Slurpee;1714522alright guys let's just get this out there: did he succeed?

A youporn search for na'vi revealed 0 results. So no, he didn't

Quote from: Slurpee;1714522alright guys let's just get this out there: did he succeed?

Mehhhhhhhh not for me. To be honest she seemed a bit awkward to me, I think it was down to her being so thin, specifically in the face. I can kind of see why some people might see the aliens as attractive, but I sure didn't.

Quote from: BunnyClock;1714525A youporn search for na'vi revealed 0 results. So no, he didn't

Try http://rule34.paheal.net

Quote from: Tempo;1714528Try http://rule34.paheal.net

Why you oughta be banned for suggestin that shit

Quote from: BunnyClock;1714531Why you oughta be banned for suggestin that shit

Gracious! Never mind, then.

While I agree, a tyrannosaurus  Rex probably wouldn't survive a thanator attack I don't believe the thanator in it's right mind would attack a t-rex mainly due to it's size.

Fuck you Munglai Batman could TOTALLY beat a Thanator with enough prep time.

Quote from: Brak's Dad;1714539Fuck you Munglai Batman could TOTALLY beat a Thanator with enough prep time.

"Quick, old chum, deploy the Bat-Thanator repellant!"

Quote from: BunnyClock;1714537While I agree, a tyrannosaurus  Rex probably wouldn't survive a thanator attack I don't believe the thanator in it's right mind would attack a t-rex mainly due to it's size.

A t-rex blows anyway, they where mainly scavenger. Now a pack of deinonychus, those bad boys could tear some shit up. Although they may be a bit to small to pose any serious threat to a thanator.

Quote from: Phil Ken Sebben;1714513The reason aliens look humanoid is because it's easier to empathize and identify with them. Sure you could change the blue cat people to floating jellyfish the size of a aircraft carrier but i doubt many people will give a shit about them.

I don't know about you but I cared a lot more about the main alien (Christopher?) and his son in District 9 than any of the aliens in Avatar and they looked like fucking prawns man. It's the writing that makes you like a character, not how much they look like you. I would probably rather fuck an Avatar alien than a District 9 alien but I think even romance stories don't depend on you wanting to fuck the characters. Look at Wall-E.

Quote from: RibsClock;1714536While I agree, I still maintain that Star Trek has been going on for so long so successfully and has had oodles of money thrown at it since its low-budget years, I see no reason why every single bloody race has to be humanoid.

I agree.

Quote from: Brak's Dad;1714539Fuck you Munglai Batman could TOTALLY beat a Thanator with enough prep time.

Hey man you're arguing with the wrong guy. As far as I'm concerned Batman can do anything and he doesn't even need prep time because he's prepared ALL THE TIME.

Quote from: Munglai;1714655I don't know about you but I cared a lot more about the main alien (Christopher?) and his son in District 9 than any of the aliens in Avatar and they looked like fucking prawns man.

Well, they were still humanoid and and expresive

Quote from: Boba Fett;1714660Well, they were still humanoid and and expresive

Yeah but the navi were more humanoid and expressive and I didn't give a shit about them. All I'm saying is you can get pretty far from human and people will still care about the character if you tell the story right.

how long would YOU survive on pandora!? discuss!

Quote from: Munglai;1714661All I'm saying is you can get pretty far from human and people will still care about the character if you tell the story right.

yeah but can you make a billion dollars in 3 weeks with a story about crab monsters

Quote from: BunnyClock;1714662how long would YOU survive on pandora!? discuss!

Maybe twenty minutes, if I don't touch anything.

Sign me up for an Avatar, though, it would be a hell of a vacation. :p Though I wouldn't want to fuck up the ecosystem if everyone else has the same idea.

Quote from: BunnyClock;1714662how long would YOU survive on pandora!? discuss!

What was that breathing limit? 10 minutes without a mask will kill you?

I want to take part in the avatar program and become a scientist guy who documents all of the animal behaviour and stuff. And then I would die. Like steve irwin before me!

Quote from: Boba Fett;1714667What was that breathing limit? 10 minutes without a mask will kill you?

Yeah something like that but I mean in an avatar body

Quote from: Slurpee;1714664yeah but can you make a billion dollars in 3 weeks with a story about crab monsters

maybe not but I could make a better movie than Avatar

Quote from: Munglai;1714677maybe not but I could make a better movie than Avatar

lmao

Quote from: Munglai;1714677maybe not but I could make a better movie than Avatar

Only it won't make one billion dollars in three weeks.

Quote from: Sovereign;1714702Only it won't make one billion dollars in three weeks.

yeah I said that already

I just wondered, could it have been hard if they just asked the smurfs if they could take some of the rocks that are around and just go away?

Quote from: BunnyClock;1714662how long would YOU survive on pandora!? discuss!

I dunno, but I would want to fuck with every single animal's brains with my ponytail

Quote from: Zorak;1714732I just wondered, could it have been hard if they just asked the smurfs if they could take some of the rocks that are around and just go away?

You can't reason with the Colonel Gargame-erm, Quartich.

YEAH LETS BLOW SOME ALIEN SHIT UP LIKE DOING THE HALOS YEEHAW

The Na'vi are probably less like Smurfs and more like
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if they must really be like anything.

That's Kimahri from FFX.

And yes, probably.

Eleven pages to say "it was a bit dissapointing"

Quote from: Munglai;1714715yeah I said that already

I would see it though

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2010/01/read-this-now-avatars-deleted-sex-scene

The ultimate intimacy.

Quote from: Phil Ken Sebben;1715719http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2010/01/read-this-now-avatars-deleted-sex-scene

The ultimate intimacy.

Hahahaha

Quote from: RibsClock;1715851Well at least I can't think of any other movie that's in...

They aren't tentacles! They're genticles!

Jesus christ

Yeah I knew he had to have some kind of weird obsession with his own pandora world I'm also happy to say I always thought avatar was gay and have never seen it SO THERE

Seriously like the third thing I thought when seeing the trailer was "oh yeah someone is going to take this and make it really weird and sexual I mean they are all blue catlizard people it will happen I know it".

I loved the movie, but the whole "fuck humanity being a primitive alien is better" attitude was kind of stupid.  Why?  James Cameron drives four corvettes and lives in a mansion.  That's pretty much it.

Come to think of it there's one thing about this movie I did hate, Michelle Rodriguez. I'm getting pretty sick of her playing the same exact role in every movie she's in.