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QuoteDisney Studios chairman Dick Cook said the new film will be directed by Robert Zemeckis using the same motion-capture effects employed in Polar Express.

hrrr, hmmm.

Not sure what to think of this.

FUCK

Dear Disney,

Leave shit alone

Signed,
The Entire Fucking World

I'm mostly :/ but only because i never saw Yellow Submarine.

Although if it's DISNEY, then who knows what might happen.

:wiebel:

cause you know, yellow submarine is totally appropriate for disney's tipical audiance of 7 - 15 year olds.

Is there anything Disney can't ruin?

Movie section also yes I heard this days ago I am the best you are the worst

Quote from: Wind-up Clock;1666070I'm mostly :/ but only because i never saw Yellow Submarine.

Although if it's DISNEY, then who knows what might happen.

:this:

oh god please god nooo

Looks like Pubic Louse Clock (http://www.clockcrew.cc/talk/showthread.php?t=72086) works for Disney now.

Quote from: RibsClock;1666086Well you oughtta!

QuoteI should really.

fucking shit

Quote from: Winsling Payne;1666085Looks like Pubic Louse Clock works for Disney now.

fucking shit

noooooooooooooooo
they're ruining all the awesome psychedelic animations, first alice in wonderland now this.

What do you mean? Nobody made an animated Alice in Wonderland before Disney.

Man, fuck Disney.

Maybe it's misguided of me to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I'm going to wait until there's actual production info about this before I start screaming for disney's bloody murder.

Quote from: CadillacClock;1666122Except for that surrealist film in the 1930's and the short animations that followed it.

Why would you make that statement without looking into it first?

I'm finding no animations, why are you making statements without backing them up with citations you damn pot?

Ummm. Why?

Do they want to replace the blue meanies with Mickey Mouse?

There are four of them.
None of them say they are full animations, while one has one part animated you douchebag, its not even part of the main story.

The crux was he said animation, those weren't animated movies, therefore, Disney's was the first animated Alice in Wonderland.

Douchebag.

Quote from: *Arguing and going off topic just to piss each other off and to sound smart*

Bickering like you two are a large part of the reason why I don't visit the Clock Crew much anymore.

I think it's fairly implied that Marlin meant popular animated films :wiebel:

seriously, this shit is gettin' old guys

How come people always say that remakes are "ruining it"?

It's not like because they made a new version you HAVE to watch it, and that no one can ever watch the original ever again.

The whole deal about "ruining" the movies is such as younger generations will see probably messed up versions of what the originals were amazing of, and they will say OH YEAH THE YELLOW SUBMARINE YEAH THAT DISNEY MOVIE ABOUT SOME BAND I DONT REMEMBER YEAH

Disney is a piece of shit.

Quote from: CadillacClock;1666144What are you his boyfriend?

far from it, you're more like an ex-girlfriend of his than anything else

seriously, find a new hobby to do

My opinion towards this remake and this entire thread can be summarised with this:
:wiebel:

When I was a nice boy? When was that?

Quote from: Marlin Brando;1666115What do you mean? Nobody made an animated Alice in Wonderland before Disney.

Thanks for backing me up Cadillac but that's not exactly what I meant.

Quote from: Satellitethey're ruining all the awesome psychedelic animations, first alice in wonderland now this.

By they I didn't mean Disney, I meant a more general they. In this case I was referring to the Disney remake of Yellow Submarine, and the Tim Burton remake of Alice in Wonderland. I love the Disney version of Alice in Wonderland, who doesn't like caterpillars smoking hookah?

Sorry I got back so late haha

OH FIE ON THIS MISERABLE EXISTENCE! HAVE WE NOT SUFFERED ENOUGH?!

FIE! FIE! FIE!

Oh.

Coincidentally, Disney is distributing that Tim Burton movie.

Quote from: Marlin Brando;1666161Oh.

Coincidentally, Disney is distributing that Tim Burton movie.

Whoah, that just gave it this whole thing triple meaning.

seems like tim burton cant help but get his dirty little hands on anything that has potential to be even slightly macabre

THIS SHIT MATTERS.

I don't care about Yellow Submarine so much, but I sure do hate that Disney, so this is my kind of thread.

I have the original on VHS... I really need to convert that shit to DVD.

Also, I'm not sure what to think about this... If its like beatles rockband and they use all the original voice work... I guess it wouldnt be that bad..

Quote from: TequilaClock;1666143The whole deal about "ruining" the movies is such as younger generations will see probably messed up versions of what the originals were amazing of, and they will say OH YEAH THE YELLOW SUBMARINE YEAH THAT DISNEY MOVIE ABOUT SOME BAND I DONT REMEMBER YEAH

:this:

I've met some young'uns who have only seen the new Star Wars movies and think they're great.  Young folks nowadays don't know good films if they came and bit them on the head and they certainly don't know about no Star Wars films like I did back in my day when I had to walk fifteen miles through the snow to get to school.

Quote from: Topcatyo;1666187:this:

I've met some young'uns who have only seen the new Star Wars movies and think they're great.  Young folks nowadays don't know good films if they came and bit them on the head and they certainly don't know about no Star Wars films like I did back in my day when I had to walk fifteen miles through the snow to get to school.

I agree with Cheshire, though, I don't think the original is being ruined at all. This movie might be for some fans of the original, but one of its biggest target audiences is going to be people or kids that have never seen the original and probably never would (or if they did, would dismiss it for looking or sounding dated). Because there are a lot of those people. The original has sort of a cult or niche following, and it's not exactly known for being a masterpiece.

I think it could go either way. I have always kind of been put off by the fact that the original didn't feature the actual Beatles voices anyway, so I can see them maaaaaaybe improving on it. They should give it to Pixar, though. That would just be magical.

Quote from: The Big N;1666175Also, I'm not sure what to think about this... If its like beatles rockband and they use all the original voice work... I guess it wouldnt be that bad..

Well now you mention, the trailer was fantastic, especially on the second part (1:21). And if it takes a direction like that, i am for it.

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Still the idea that they will be using the same base as Polar Express, makes me cringe a bit.

I hope Spiderman is the captain of the submarine.

fucking disney leave that shit alone

Quote from: Redhead Clock;1666252fucking disney leave that shit alone

Quote from: The Batman;1666205I agree with Cheshire, though, I don't think the original is being ruined at all. This movie might be for some fans of the original, but one of its biggest target audiences is going to be people or kids that have never seen the original and probably never would (or if they did, would dismiss it for looking or sounding dated). Because there are a lot of those people. The original has sort of a cult or niche following, and it's not exactly known for being a masterpiece.

I think it could go either way. I have always kind of been put off by the fact that the original didn't feature the actual Beatles voices anyway, so I can see them maaaaaaybe improving on it. They should give it to Pixar, though. That would just be magical.

I agree, it would be better if Pixar did it, but they seen to only do original work, so....

Actually, I'm kind of happy they're making it (Provided it's good)
You guys act like that because they make a new one, kids will only remember the new one, but that's just it.
It's a pretty good assumption that if they didn't remake this movie, kids nowadays would never know of it at all, even the old one. Maybe by making this movie, they can spark an interest in classic rock, or at least the Beatles to a new generation, and keep the story of the original alive.

BTW, what does everyone here have against Disney? Gawd...

Quote from: Liser;1666253

hahhaha nice one that made me lol

Quote from: Wind-up Clock;1666070I'm mostly :/ but only because i never saw Yellow Submarine.

Although if it's DISNEY, then who knows what might happen.

The Beatles will rediscover the true meaning of Christmas with the help of a jive-talking submarine.

Quote from: EnglishClock;1666235I hope Spiderman is the captain of the submarine.

lol

Quote from: EnglishClock;1666235I hope Spiderman is the captain of the submarine.

They can have an underwater chase scene with Namor!

Quote from: GEARBAWKCS CLOCKKK;1666362The Beatles will rediscover the true meaning of Christmas with the help of a jive-talking submarine.

This would be a great movie.

Quote from: TheCheshireClock;1666328BTW, what does everyone here have against Disney? Gawd...

I hate Disney because of their horrible sequels they made to every movie they ever made, and their shitting upon copyright and all that and their hypocrisy when it comes to copyright.

Quote from: TheCheshireClock;1666328BTW, what does everyone here have against Disney? Gawd...

Also what I said >:(

By the way, Heliopios, I finally figured out what a Heliopios is today.

Quote from: Topcatyo;1666470Also what I said >:(

By the way, Heliopios, I finally figured out what a Heliopios is today.

WHAT THE FUCK IS A HELIOPIOS

Quote from: PHIL FIGHTING ALEX;1666479WHAT THE FUCK IS A HELIOPIOS

Lol, I made a flash with you in it, and you were represented by a bar of discoloured metal with pretty much that exact phrase on it.

EDIT:Wait, it was actually "IDK WHAT IS A HELIOPIOS"

Quote from: Chaotic Silly Putty;1666499EDIT:Wait, it was actually "IDK WHAT IS A HELIOPIOS"

i just watched it and was all :)

Quote from: PHIL FIGHTING ALEX;1666504i just watched it and was all :)

:)

Whoops, sorry, I was thinking of Heliopolis.  Oh well, you were this close to being someplace in Egypt.

Quote from: TheCheshireClock;1666328BTW, what does everyone here have against Disney? Gawd...

They kinda went apeshit desperate in 2004 or so

FUCK

Heliopios = Heliopion = Sun + A mountain near Ephesus

(https://clockcrew.net/talk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F2%2F2b%2FKarte_Ephesos_MKL1888.png&hash=afe22bc7cd8f67c1f71e2e1512e61c528756dc0c)

damn it.

Disney always finds a way of making me mad at them.

Its a shame how Disney bought some of the best animators in the world from Pixar, but are still going to fuck up yellow submarine.  The only way they can not fuck it up is if they use the original voices, like Beatle's rock band.

:wiebel:

So, wait, what's this about Beatles Rock Band using the original voices?

Quote from: Topcatyo;1667120So, wait, what's this about Beatles Rock Band using the original voices?

I think they mean either:

a) All of the songs are master tracks, which means it's all of the original instrument and voice work, or...

b) Apple Corps handed over a bunch of behind the scenes tapes from recording sessions and such, which the game plays between songs, or while loading certain things, so you actually hear studio chatter from the real Beatles.

Or both.

QuoteDisney Studios chairman Dick Cook said the new film will be directed by Robert Zemeckis using the same motion-capture effects employed in Polar Express.

This "animation" style is ugly as hell and nobody frigging like Polar Express because of that. I really, really do not to see the greatest beauties of the 20th Century made into creepy looking horror dolls :(

Yeah, really, why would they shoot for Polar Express?  Shouldn't they try for something, I dunno, good?

John Lennon's Grave  :(

IT WON'T STOP SPINNING!

Quote from: AwesomeMan;1667769John Lennon's Grave  :(

You need to host it.

Quote from: AwesomeMan;1667769John Lennon's Grave  :(

LOL

sup brandon

is that a joke

This is the worst part of Michael Jackson dying. Prepare for further blaspheming.

Who the fuck did he leave the rights to? Blanket?

I just can't understand how you guys are judging this with absolutely no art to criticise on. It's like me decrying a video game right when the trademark is issued.

well seeing as how the original wasnt that great, not too pumped for this one

Quote from: RibsClock;1667884Disney making Doom 4 for the Wii.

OH NO HEY GUYS IT MIGHT BE GOOD

Disney animation team, digital or otherwise > animation team behind original Yellow Submarine.

Quote from: RibsClock;1667886Yeah they'll update it and give it swell new graphics and change it.

That worked great with Star Wars.

You may not have liked the new Star Wars movies. But do you know how many people did? How many kids did? A whole fucking shit load. And do many of them like the original movies more? No. They are old and ugly, they say.

But either way, blind skepticism is pretty silly.

Quote from: RibsClock;1667899A lot fewer than liked the original?

The popularity of the originals is irrelevant, my point was that there is a very large audience for the new movies.

QuoteNo that's the thing though, the bad CGI used to make the special edition effects actually looks worse.

Again, that is from the opinion of a fan of the originals. The popularity of the new movies with younger people is not just numbers. I have been around kids (and teenagers up to 19) that like the new graphics because they are cool, flashy, whatever. They are used to this, so it's not jarring to their eyes to see something that is supposed to look real but looks blatantly green screened.

QuoteDon't get me wrong, Disney has produced some wonderful movies, many of them remakes of classical fairy tales and legends. But they don't need to remake this and I seriously doubt it needs a Jar Jar Binks to jazz that shit up.

Well who are we to decide when something "needs" to be remade? The money that remakes bring in today, even the worst of them, is telling the studios that these things "need" to be remade. And this movie is going to make a lot of money, whether it looks creepy, or fake, or "ruins" the original.

Quote from: RibsClock;1667903If you "improve" something and people like it less, then it's not irrelevant.

If a mechanic "repairs" your car and makes it worse instead, you don't consider how well it ran before irrelevant.

You keep using opinionated arguments and ignoring the fact that there are people out there who like the new movies more than the originals.

QuoteYou just answered your own question.

Who are we to decide this? We are the consumers. If people are less inclined to say "Who cares if they bastardize something wonderful for a quick buck?" then they're less likely to do it.

That it makes them money is not a justification for us paying for it.

Well, ok, I see where you're coming from. Let me let you in on a little secret, though... come close, I don't want too many people hearing this... movies? To include the orginal Yellow Submarine, the original Star Wars movies, any other movie or series that has been "ruined" for a "quick buck"? Yeah, they were made to make money.

I am always shocked when people use the "oh, they're just doing it for the money" argument. Even the Beatles, you know why they made their albums? To make money. You know why they started Apple Corps? Money.

It is the driving force behind the vast, vast majority of movies and music that people want to believe was made as art. Maybe that had something to do with it, but the need and want to make money was probably behind it.

I hope you're not reading this thinking I am angrily arguing, though. It's just been awhile since I've been in a good debate. :o {{{}}}

I am not ready from this to come out. I'm still hallucinating from the first one. Damn you Disney and that glove that somehow has teeth!

I seen the original Star Wars without the CGI once. I didn't enjoy it as much as Special Edition.

Just saying

Making a new version of a movie doesn't make the original version better or worse.

Quote from: RibsClock;1667995Not worse, less enjoyable.

I don't enjoy Willy Wanka and the Chocolate Factory any less for having a horrible remake (or was it supposed to be a sequel? I'm not sure)

Quote from: RibsClock;1667995Not worse, less enjoyable.

How so? Does it retroactively ruin a high quality film?

Cause that isn't how it works.

To me, a remake makes discussing the movie less enjoyable, because you're going to have the people who only saw the remake and insist it's better because it's newer.  It's happened to me on several occasions.

Quote from: Topcatyo;1668012To me, a remake makes discussing the movie less enjoyable, because you're going to have the people who only saw the remake and insist it's better because it's newer.  It's happened to me on several occasions.

You're like those assholes who hated the idea of Beatles rockband because it would make younger people like their music.

This is why we can't have nice things! Because it might mean somebody you talk to might say something uncool some day.

fuck capitalism

fuck making money off of old, dead, and/or corrupted people

fuck the beatles

yea, theyre one of my favorite bands, but fuck beatle fans and fuck making them up to be something more than just a rock n roll band

who gives a fuck, disney likes making money, and its going to make them money, beatles are a fuckin cash cow recently or something, and the beatles are half dead, pauls dead and ringo is a fagoot

but seriously the original yellow submarine kinda sucked ass, it wasnt even the beatles who did anything with it, hey bulldog and its all too much are badass songs though

Quote from: ̵b̵a̵n̵n̵e̵d̵ ̵t̵h̵o̵r̵;1668020You're like those assholes who hated the idea of Beatles rockband because it would make younger people like their music.

This is why we can't have nice things! Because it might mean somebody you talk to might say something uncool some day.

I have no problem with people liking the remake, I have a problem with when people baselessly say the newer version is better because the old version is old.  I have a friend who refuses to listen to Led Zeppelin and The Beatles because "It's old".
I love Beatles Rock Band, we have people getting into the Beatles again and I love the Beatles.

hey its noseclock, hows it goin noseclock

Quote from: PowerGloveClock;1668082hey its noseclock, hows it goin noseclock

Holy shit I didn't notice

Noseclock was my first clock bro

I should make another flash about him.

It's not blind, we're talking about an animation company with a track record for making particular sorts of movies. It's going to have that same bland sugar coating shared by everything Disney.

Quote from: Topcatyo;1668065I have no problem with people liking the remake, I have a problem with when people baselessly say the newer version is better because the old version is old.  I have a friend who refuses to listen to Led Zeppelin and The Beatles because "It's old".
I love Beatles Rock Band, we have people getting into the Beatles again and I love the Beatles.

Why is he still your friend?

Quote from: RibsClock;1669288I had a Mexican friend who was a white supremacist. True story.

hahaha

Quote from: RibsClock;1669288I had a Mexican friend who was a white supremacist. True story.

I'm a white supremacist and I'm not white :(

Quote from: RabidClock;1666069Dear Disney,

Leave shit alone

Signed,
The Entire Fucking World

Hey nice bump

Whoops my bad I got here through a link not the forum

I have some real mixed feelings about this, but all I know is, it will in no way be as good as the original.

I need to stop bumping threads cause I'm so fat

During my first days at SCAD a graduate came to my orientation who's working on the film. All I gotta say is, I'm really excited and nervous. Yellow submarine is one of my favorite animated films like... ever... I don't know how the fuck they won't destroy it.

All I know is every single artist working on this BETTER have done LSD

Sure, like someone has to take LSD to have any kind of imagination.

This is why you're not in movies, sir.

Quote from: Marlin Clock;1785784Sure, like someone has to take LSD to have any kind of imagination.

This is why you're not in movies, sir.

It's not just about imagination, it's about the fact that the original was made for LSDers by LSDers and this one needs to be too if it will even be okay.

Well, I'm not an LSDer, and I'm not really a fan of the original (probably because I'm not an LSDer), and Cary Elwes is playing George Harrison, which is awesome, so I am okay with this movie.

Quote from: Marlin Clock;1785784Sure, like someone has to take LSD to have any kind of imagination.

This is why you're not in movies, sir.

Have you even seen the original

Blue Meanies

Yellow Submarines

Fucking rainbows and Sergent Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band

THE FUCKING BEATLES


God dammit Marlin this is why you aren't in movies unless we are making fun of you

Well, I agree that drugs are given credit for awesome stuff way too often, as is the case with Alice in Wonderland, but it's no secret that Yellow Submarine was drug inspired. The Beatles were all about free love and getting high at that time.

Quote from: TheCheshireClock;1785793as is the case with Alice in Wonderland

I'll bet this is said by guys wearing bob marley tshirts and hemp bracelets

Yellow Submarine is about the Beatles so it's obviously LSD influenced but that doesn't mean artists can't work with the acid visual style without taking acid. I know Marlin's a dweeb and everything but he's kind of right. Don't chalk everything creative up to drugs, even if they're borrowing heavily from a drug-influenced style.

Also: this remake is a dumb idea but I'm intrigued to see what it turns into. I just hope the fact that it's based on a film that turned out like it did because the creatives had almost complete control means that the creatives on the remake will also have complete control and will do something cool. It's pretty unlikely though.

since when did the term LSDer replace acidhead.

Quote from: Munglai;1785825Yellow Submarine is about the Beatles so it's obviously LSD influenced but that doesn't mean artists can't work with the acid visual style without taking acid. I know Marlin's a dweeb and everything but he's kind of right. Don't chalk everything creative up to drugs, even if they're borrowing heavily from a drug-influenced style.

Also: this remake is a dumb idea but I'm intrigued to see what it turns into. I just hope the fact that it's based on a film that turned out like it did because the creatives had almost complete control means that the creatives on the remake will also have complete control and will do something cool. It's pretty unlikely though.

But it's better when LSDers aka Acidheads make it because they have more of an understanding of the drug and it's effects. If you get a bunch of artists going "Hey this is kinda trippy" then it just doesn't have the same unification.

Quote from: Munglai;1785825I know Marlin's a dweeb and everything but he's kind of right.

That's right :cool:

I guess what I said was a bit more mean-spirited than I meant. Sorry about that.

Quote from: Marlin Clock;1785784Sure, like someone has to take LSD to have any kind of imagination.

This is why you're not in movies, sir.

Like you've got a clue what you're talking about...

The reason I put emphasis on the artists taking LSD is because LSD is something that goes much much deeper than "imagination". The deep stuff is in the original Yellow Submarine, but it won't be picked up on  for someone who's totally out of the loop as far as that type of consciousness goes. The Beatles were not just into "big imaginations" as if it were just the 'cool creative monsters' that made Yellow Submarine so cool. There's the entire Hippie LSD consciousness they sort of introduced to the entire country. They were very into that consciousness, its what they stood for, and so should the artists making this new film.

"Looking imaginative" is not what makes psychedelic art. And I'm not saying its only limited to those who've taken drugs, but its involved with an entirely different state of consciousness, not simply "trippy looking". Anyone can make something "trippy looking". Escher was someone who made psychedelic art without psychedelics.

Guys, the children that will watch this remake will have no idea what an LSD-trip is like. As a matter of fact, most adults even don't know what an LSD -trip is like ( that includes me btw ). So why should we care if the images are LSD induces or just plain imagination?

If you want to see shit like you see when you trip on acid go take some acid.
and might I add: sheeeez

If you want to see shit like you see when that guy gets sodomised in Pulp Fiction then why dont you just sodomise some guy

Quote from: ButtplugClock;1785794I'll bet this is said by guys wearing bob marley tshirts and hemp bracelets

I really do hate how the drug and hipster crowds have claimed Alice as their own. If it isn't some nonsense about hidden drug use, it's some other nonsense about a deep inner meaning about the tortured souls of children or some shit.
Some people should not be allowed to read... (Or in the case of emos and druggies, pretend they read...)

If emos can ruin Doctor Seuss than I find them way more intolerable than hipsters.  At least hipsters manage to keep your childhood memories intact.

wait emos ruined dr suess?

Quote from: Satellite;1786133wait emos ruined dr suess?

Deviantart and emos went fucking shithouse for it.

eeuugh...

Quote from: Satellite;1785863But it's better when LSDers aka Acidheads make it because they have more of an understanding of the drug and it's effects. If you get a bunch of artists going "Hey this is kinda trippy" then it just doesn't have the same unification.

Only if they're bad artists. A good artist researches, surrounds themselves in the subject and finds the source of the style they're working with before they start creating stuff. They don't just have a quick look at something and think they can mimic it, they work from the inside out.

A bad artist could take a load of acid and still come out with complete shit.

Quote from: topcatyo;1786123If emos can ruin Doctor Seuss than I find them way more intolerable than hipsters.  At least hipsters manage to keep your childhood memories intact.

Emos are just a breed of hipster.

Quote from: Munglai;1786389Only if they're bad artists. A good artist researches, surrounds themselves in the subject and finds the source of the style they're working with before they start creating stuff. They don't just have a quick look at something and think they can mimic it, they work from the inside out.

A bad artist could take a load of acid and still come out with complete shit.

Still though, there are immense subleties in the movie and smoking acid. It's like someone making a remake of Cheech and Chong. If the actors and props guys and director especially never smoked weed, the remake would be shit.

Now that should of course never happen and no matter what, a remake to classics like these would just ruin the source material for everyone who saw it, and should never be done. But the way I see it, if they're gonna remake it, they might as well know what they're remaking!

idk if this has been posted (http://www.clockcrew.cc/talk/showthread.php?72086-it-would-ve-been-awesome-if-yellow-submarine-were-a-disney-movie)

Quote from: Slurpee;1786642idk if this has been posted

I briefly considered posting that thread somewhere in here because I remember how fun it was to think up concepts for a Beatles video game.

I wouldn't mind making a flash game about that, although I believe it would violate some copyrights?

Hey guys this movie ain't happenin anymore. (http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/03/robert-zemeckis-mo-cap-empire-is-crumbling)

I am mildly happy