Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: AlbinoClock on November 20, 2009, 11:44:21 AM
Post by: AlbinoClock on November 20, 2009, 11:44:21 AM
QuoteA company in the United Kingdom is about to lift the lid on a device that zaps lobster with electricity to kill them, and the inventor said Wednesday his humane alternative to boiling is about to give the entire industry a jolt.http://thechronicleherald.ca/Business/1153489.html
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The animal rights group PETA bought two of the lobster devices and paid for Mr. Buckhaven and his wife to fly to the Arizona event last Saturday to demonstrate the technology.
Unfortunately, the courier service lost the two machines and the animal rights people had to look the other way as volunteers killed hundreds of lobster in boiling water for hungry supporters of the resource centre.
Hahahahahahaha
Those things cost $3,500.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: ProqagandaClock on November 20, 2009, 11:55:27 AM
Post by: ProqagandaClock on November 20, 2009, 11:55:27 AM
I came running towards this thread as soon as I heard.
What has the world come to! The humanity!
Oh the lobsters!
Don't mind the 30 000 black people dying from starvation, we must save the godamn lobsters.
Why wont anyone think of the LOBSTERS?!
What has the world come to! The humanity!
Oh the lobsters!
Don't mind the 30 000 black people dying from starvation, we must save the godamn lobsters.
Why wont anyone think of the LOBSTERS?!
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: ProqagandaClock on November 20, 2009, 11:55:59 AM
Post by: ProqagandaClock on November 20, 2009, 11:55:59 AM
(https://clockcrew.net/talk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthedailydish.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F02%2Flobster.jpg&hash=bba5f96f132d34d4653893dbadaad4ca5c7dc72f)
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: ProqagandaClock on November 20, 2009, 11:57:12 AM
Post by: ProqagandaClock on November 20, 2009, 11:57:12 AM
Why does anyone give two shits about lobsters/fish? They don't even have the concept of "self" so even their pain is not something they experience as suffering from but rather just react to it
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: peyoteclock on November 20, 2009, 12:20:45 PM
Post by: peyoteclock on November 20, 2009, 12:20:45 PM
Quote from: HarmonyClock;1693971Why does anyone give two shits about lobsters/fish? They don't even have the concept of "self" so even their pain is not something they experience as suffering from but rather just react to it
HOW DO YOU KNOW MAN ARE YOU A LOBSTER MAN YEAH DIDNT THINK SO HOW DO YOU KNOW.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: buttplug on November 20, 2009, 12:30:23 PM
Post by: buttplug on November 20, 2009, 12:30:23 PM
Lol peta
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: AbsintheClock on November 20, 2009, 01:08:51 PM
Post by: AbsintheClock on November 20, 2009, 01:08:51 PM
I could never eat a lobster in the first place. They are too beautiful.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: DrClock on November 20, 2009, 01:14:11 PM
Post by: DrClock on November 20, 2009, 01:14:11 PM
tragic irony
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: INoodleClock on November 20, 2009, 01:26:42 PM
Post by: INoodleClock on November 20, 2009, 01:26:42 PM
tl;dr but isn't the machine more humane than boiling?
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: AbsintheClock on November 20, 2009, 01:32:17 PM
Post by: AbsintheClock on November 20, 2009, 01:32:17 PM
This is why reading helps. To make a long story short...
They were supposed to shock the lobsters with an expensive device but the airport lost it. So because of the people waiting they had to boil the lobsters instead.
They were supposed to shock the lobsters with an expensive device but the airport lost it. So because of the people waiting they had to boil the lobsters instead.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: EnglishClock on November 20, 2009, 01:51:27 PM
Post by: EnglishClock on November 20, 2009, 01:51:27 PM
I'm not entirely sure on the differences in pain between an electrocution and being boiled alive, but if the electrocution puts them out with less torture, then this machine is a brilliant idea and I hope eventually it will replace the traditonal method of boiling them alive. But I don't see it becoming mainstream for quite some time, especially at a price like that.
Also how the hell do you lose one of these things, let alone two??
(https://clockcrew.net/talk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthechronicleherald.ca%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2Flobster11_RGB_11-19-09.jpg&hash=f9b2e4b1f0ebeff0fc68e7227cc141c6eaea8fcd)
"Yeah man, it was like, right here in front of us, Larry here was carrying it and it just slipped out of his hands, and we couldn't find it anywhere on the ground!"
This makes no sense. They react to it, by suffering pain...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29915025/
Also how the hell do you lose one of these things, let alone two??
(https://clockcrew.net/talk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthechronicleherald.ca%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2Flobster11_RGB_11-19-09.jpg&hash=f9b2e4b1f0ebeff0fc68e7227cc141c6eaea8fcd)
"Yeah man, it was like, right here in front of us, Larry here was carrying it and it just slipped out of his hands, and we couldn't find it anywhere on the ground!"
Quote from: HarmonyClock;1693971They don't even have the concept of "self" so even their pain is not something they experience as suffering from but rather just react to it
This makes no sense. They react to it, by suffering pain...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29915025/
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: SchnozzberryClock on November 20, 2009, 02:11:55 PM
Post by: SchnozzberryClock on November 20, 2009, 02:11:55 PM
Quote from: EnglishClock;1694018This makes no sense. They react to it, by suffering pain...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29915025/
Yeah, but the thing is nobody cares about the feelings of delicious undersea bugs.
Except PETA, of course. Because PETA is out of it's fucking mind.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: AlbinoClock on November 20, 2009, 02:30:52 PM
Post by: AlbinoClock on November 20, 2009, 02:30:52 PM
Quote from: HarmonyClock;1693971Why does anyone give two shits about lobsters/fish? They don't even have the concept of "self" so even their pain is not something they experience as suffering from but rather just react to it
HarmonyClock: Lobster Psychologist and expert on absolutely everything
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: PentagramClock on November 20, 2009, 03:04:22 PM
Post by: PentagramClock on November 20, 2009, 03:04:22 PM
Next: lobster lethal injections.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: AbsintheClock on November 20, 2009, 03:06:01 PM
Post by: AbsintheClock on November 20, 2009, 03:06:01 PM
Quote from: PentagramClock;1694032Next: lobster lethal injections.
Hot butter lethal injections.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: SilverCherryClock on November 20, 2009, 03:13:08 PM
Post by: SilverCherryClock on November 20, 2009, 03:13:08 PM
i like how we have to make a conscious effort to kill and eat the most well-protected animal in the world and we keep like dogs and cats as pets
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: RomanClock on November 20, 2009, 04:14:15 PM
Post by: RomanClock on November 20, 2009, 04:14:15 PM
Quote from: CadillacClock;1694037Our taste buds were developed over millions of years based on the rarity and scarcity of each food (foraging/hunting).So the less we eat of something the better it tastes? Pretty sure there is a lot more behind taste and flavor than these few paragraphs.
Since certain meats, fruits, berries, and vegetables do not grow or are not obtainable year round, they stand out more than the average piece of foliage (lettuce, cabbage, etc.), which gradually became dull to our senses.
Bitter foods, that are often poisonous, have the greatest effect on our taste buds and will be instantly repulsed. Our taste buds are merely a mechanism of survival and the sensations we receive in the form of (good) flavours are simply an off shoot of this.
We are also the only species that attempts to seek out new flavours (sensations) by eating anything and everything available (excluding our own species). Most true predators do not even attempt to eat every kind of animal directly available to them.
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Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: DWARFINATORclock on November 20, 2009, 04:33:56 PM
Post by: DWARFINATORclock on November 20, 2009, 04:33:56 PM
Quote from: RomanClock;1694039So the less we eat of something the better it tastes? Pretty sure there is a lot more behind taste and flavor than these few paragraphs.
seriously
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: miracle fruit on November 20, 2009, 05:13:53 PM
Post by: miracle fruit on November 20, 2009, 05:13:53 PM
Quote from: RomanClock;1694039So the less we eat of something the better it tastes? Pretty sure there is a lot more behind taste and flavor than these few paragraphs.
sort of but thats the basic idea
stuff like sugar tastes sweet because scientists figure natural sugars in fruit were essential back before we mass produced sugar and pumped it into everything
eventually we will become less tolerant of sugar because its becoming more harmful than beneficial to our bodies (this will take a long time, like evolution-long)
what am i doing talking evolution with roman
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: SnakeClock on November 20, 2009, 05:32:51 PM
Post by: SnakeClock on November 20, 2009, 05:32:51 PM
This isn't the first time PETA's gone back on itself as a matter of convenience. Why did they even plan a charity dinner where they had to eat lobster, anyway? Does no one want to go to a charity dinner where they serve salad and tofu?
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: Heliopios on November 20, 2009, 05:56:56 PM
Post by: Heliopios on November 20, 2009, 05:56:56 PM
lopserman??!!???
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: PowerGloveClock on November 20, 2009, 06:20:52 PM
Post by: PowerGloveClock on November 20, 2009, 06:20:52 PM
thats where he went
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: EtchASketchClock on November 20, 2009, 06:40:19 PM
Post by: EtchASketchClock on November 20, 2009, 06:40:19 PM
Quote from: SnakeClock;1694054Does no one want to go to a charity dinner where they serve salad and tofu?I don't see why not, that sounds absolutely delicious!
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: F U Clock on November 20, 2009, 09:02:08 PM
Post by: F U Clock on November 20, 2009, 09:02:08 PM
Quote from: miraclefruit;1694047sort of but thats the basic idea
stuff like sugar tastes sweet because scientists figure natural sugars in fruit were essential back before we mass produced sugar and pumped it into everything
eventually we will become less tolerant of sugar because its becoming more harmful than beneficial to our bodies (this will take a long time, like evolution-long)
what am i doing talking evolution with roman
I'm sorry but this whole argument reeks of bullshit to me.
Sugar tastes good to us because it's amazingly fast-processing carbohydrate that can give us an incredible amount of energy which, if not used, converts easily into fat which is also good for survival. Fat, in turn, also tastes good for the same reason (except no insulin spike). Sugar + fat is just the bee's knees.
Just look at bread. The "better" it tastes, the "worse" it is for you. What we consider bad for us is, from a survival standpoint, fucking great eats. When you're not sure where your next meal's coming from, you want the most fattening shit you can find. Thus white bread, G.I rating of 100, processes fast as fuck, and tastes like butter. I eat a flourless bread called Ezekiel 4:9 that has an extremely low glycemic rating and processes slow as a bitch, but tastes a good bit like bird seed.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: ProqagandaClock on November 20, 2009, 09:09:00 PM
Post by: ProqagandaClock on November 20, 2009, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: Eff Yoo Clawk;1694099I'm sorry but this whole argument reeks of bullshit to me.
Sugar tastes good to us because it's amazingly fast-processing carbohydrate that can give us an incredible amount of energy which, if not used, converts easily into fat which is also good for survival. Fat, in turn, also tastes good for the same reason (except no insulin spike). Sugar + fat is just the bee's knees.
Just look at bread. The "better" it tastes, the "worse" it is for you. What we consider bad for us is, from a survival standpoint, fucking great eats. When you're not sure where your next meal's coming from, you want the most fattening shit you can find. Thus white bread, G.I rating of 100, processes fast as fuck, and tastes like butter. I eat a flourless bread called Ezekiel 4:9 that has an extremely low glycemic rating and processes slow as a bitch, but tastes a good bit like bird seed.
jesus christ i love it when you talk dirty
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: Pumpkin Clock on November 23, 2009, 08:11:46 AM
Post by: Pumpkin Clock on November 23, 2009, 08:11:46 AM
I just like to take a bat to my lobsters.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: Loki Clock on November 23, 2009, 09:02:04 AM
Post by: Loki Clock on November 23, 2009, 09:02:04 AM
Quote from: Rock & Roll Pumpkin;1695322I just like to take a bat to my lobsters.
That sounds painful.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: Marlin Clock on November 23, 2009, 09:25:22 AM
Post by: Marlin Clock on November 23, 2009, 09:25:22 AM
I've dissected a crayfish before. I forget as to whether we look at the ganglion or not, but probably not cause that shit is hard to get at.
The weirdest thing about crustaceans is that their gills are tied to their legs, so they have to keep moving in order to breathe.
The weirdest thing about crustaceans is that their gills are tied to their legs, so they have to keep moving in order to breathe.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: heineken on November 23, 2009, 11:46:34 AM
Post by: heineken on November 23, 2009, 11:46:34 AM
Lobsters are essentially underwater spiders so I don't understand why people care so much about killing them humanely. Seriously, boiling alive is pretty much what they deserve for being so god damned creepy.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: Marlin Clock on November 23, 2009, 11:54:08 AM
Post by: Marlin Clock on November 23, 2009, 11:54:08 AM
That's like saying we're essentially fish.
i.e. a stupid argument.
i.e. a stupid argument.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: Odo on November 23, 2009, 12:05:16 PM
Post by: Odo on November 23, 2009, 12:05:16 PM
Quote from: Marlin Brando;1695390That's like saying we're essentially fish.
i.e. a stupid argument.
it's not an argument, he's saying that he thinks creepy shit should die. i tend to agree.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: Kaijuclock on November 23, 2009, 12:06:19 PM
Post by: Kaijuclock on November 23, 2009, 12:06:19 PM
Quote from: Liser;1695392it's not an argument, he's saying that he thinks creepy shit should die. i tend to agree.actually so do i, especially when the carcass of the creepy thing is delicious.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: Marlin Clock on November 23, 2009, 12:13:49 PM
Post by: Marlin Clock on November 23, 2009, 12:13:49 PM
Just saying, Crustacea and Chelicerata are in whole different subphyla.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: Loki Clock on November 23, 2009, 12:54:28 PM
Post by: Loki Clock on November 23, 2009, 12:54:28 PM
Quote from: Marlin Brando;1695399Just saying, Crustacea and Chelicerata are in whole different subphyla.
Right. Different subphyla vs. different phyla. Not really an equal comparison! It's more like saying wolves are essentially giant possums with furry tails. And it's more about physical resemblance than ancestry.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK on November 23, 2009, 01:24:48 PM
Post by: FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK on November 23, 2009, 01:24:48 PM
Ever since I was three or so I wanted to take one of those lobsters they have in tanks at restaurants and keep it as a pet. I'd get him a baby pool or something and feed him goldfish.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: Thor on November 23, 2009, 08:21:04 PM
Post by: Thor on November 23, 2009, 08:21:04 PM
Me and my dad once punched a bunch of crabs to death that we had just caught because it was cool. Then we boiled them up and they were delicious. True story.
SIMPSONS DID IT
Quote from: FloundermanClock;1695432Ever since I was three or so I wanted to take one of those lobsters they have in tanks at restaurants and keep it as a pet. I'd get him a baby pool or something and feed him goldfish.
SIMPSONS DID IT
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: WiiClock on November 23, 2009, 08:41:08 PM
Post by: WiiClock on November 23, 2009, 08:41:08 PM
Quote from: Zombie Bill Murray;1695744Me and my dad once punched a bunch of crabs to death that we had just caught because it was cool. Then we boiled them up and they were delicious. True story.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: Kombucha on November 23, 2009, 08:47:12 PM
Post by: Kombucha on November 23, 2009, 08:47:12 PM
Quote from: Marlin Brando;1695390That's like saying we're essentially fish.But you are a fish!
i.e. a stupid argument.
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: Mashed Potato Johnson on November 23, 2009, 09:46:11 PM
Post by: Mashed Potato Johnson on November 23, 2009, 09:46:11 PM
Uhhh.
Am I missing something? Why are PeTA boiling lobsters? Aren't they against that shit?
I know they were meant to be zapping but the equipment was lost, but why were they going to be zapping them? Aren't they against that kind of shit also?
These niggas crazy.
Am I missing something? Why are PeTA boiling lobsters? Aren't they against that shit?
I know they were meant to be zapping but the equipment was lost, but why were they going to be zapping them? Aren't they against that kind of shit also?
These niggas crazy.
Quote from: RomanClock;1694039So the less we eat of something the better it tastes?
Quote from: Eddie Murphy RawIf you're starving and somebody throw you a cracker, you gonna be like this:
"Goddamn, that's the best cracker I ever ate in my life! That ain't no regular cracker, was it? What was that, a Saltine? Goddamn, that was delicious. That wasn't no Saltine. That was... That was a Ritz. That wasn't a Ritz? God, that was the best cracker I ever ate in my life. Can I have another one, please? Please, one more?"
Then you get married, because you think you've found the bomb. Have the same crackers every day for a year. And then you roll over one day and be like:
"Hey, I just got some regular old crackers."
Title: PeTA boils hundreds of lobsters alive
Post by: Mashed Potato Johnson on November 23, 2009, 09:54:48 PM
Post by: Mashed Potato Johnson on November 23, 2009, 09:54:48 PM
Quote from: RomanClock;1694039So the less we eat of something the better it tastes?
Quote from: Eddie Murphy RawIf you're starving and somebody throw you a cracker, you gonna be like this:
"Goddamn, that's the best cracker I ever ate in my life! That ain't no regular cracker, was it? What was that, a Saltine? Goddamn, that was delicious. That wasn't no Saltine. That was... That was a Ritz. That wasn't a Ritz? God, that was the best cracker I ever ate in my life. Can I have another one, please? Please, one more?"
Then you get married, because you think you've found the bomb. Have the same crackers every day for a year. And then you roll over one day and be like:
"Hey, I just got some
regular old crackers."