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Community => General Discussion => Topic farted by: TequilaClock on April 26, 2010, 03:42:05 AM

Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: TequilaClock on April 26, 2010, 03:42:05 AM
I respect religion, but this is too awesome to not pass up.

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0424/seattle-cartoonist-promotes-everybody-draw-mohammed-day/

QuoteAs a snarky response to Muslim bloggers who "warned" Comedy Central about an episode of South Park showing the Prophet Mohammed wearing a bear suit, one Seattle cartoonist, who calls laughter her form of "prayer," is asking artists all over the world to create depictions of Mohammed on May 20, then submit the images to a Facebook page she set up.

Speaking on a Seattle radio show on Friday, cartoonist Molly Norris said she announced her idea as a way of countering the fear exhibited by Comedy Central in censoring episode 201 of South Park.

At the South Park Studios website, a message was posted that notes, "After we delivered the show, and prior to broadcast, Comedy Central placed numerous additional audio bleeps throughout the episode. We do not have network approval to stream our original version of the show."

The New York-based Revolution Muslim group's Web site was largely unavailable Wednesday but a CNN report said the statement was posted alongside a graphic photo of slain Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh, who was murdered by a Muslim extremist in Amsterdam in 2004.

"In the 14 years we've been doing South Park we have never done a show that we couldn't stand behind," outh Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone wrote on their Web site. "We delivered our version of the show to Comedy Central and they made a determination to alter the episode. It wasn't some meta-joke on our part. Comedy Central added the bleeps. In fact, Kyle's customary final speech was about intimidation and fear. It didn't mention Muhammad at all but it got bleeped too. We'll be back next week with a whole new show about something completely different and we'll see what happens to it."

"We have to warn [South Park creators] Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid and they will probably wind up like Theo van Gogh for airing this show," the group said. "This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality that will likely happen to them."

A spokesman for the group denied the statement was an incitement to violence.

The New York Police Department has since stepped up security at Comedy Central headquarters.

"I wanna water down the targets," Norris said. "I haven't really organized it yet. I posted it on Facebook and I have gotten a couple drawings of Mohammed. I guess I gotta follow through and put them on a deck of cards or something."

"As a cartoonist, I felt so much passion about what's happened and I wanted to kind of counter Comedy Central's message that they sent about being afraid," Norris continued. "That's a cartoonist's job, is to be non-PC."

On her blog, Midnight Corndog, she further explains her motivations:

I really hope this sort of creative expression brings ALL people of our country together in dialogue. I am personally afraid of Muslims because the peaceful folks of that religion do not often come forward to differentiate themselves from any radical elements! I mean, if I do not hear from moderate Muslims then how am I supposed to KNOW that they, too, are not harboring ill intent toward non-Muslims?! Please if you are a non-radical Muslim tell people about yourselves. Write to newspapers. Have community round tables. When Americans don’t know what you really think or feel, we might stay mired in stereotypes. Offer us knowledge!
The post URL ends with, "please-send-drawings-of-any-religious-figure-by-may-20," though her other mentions of the idea solely focus on the Prophet Mohammed.


In a July, 2009 special to The Seattle Times, writer Rachel Shimp described Norris's work as carrying "[a] distinctly 'Seattle' identity-complex," that "imagines what's really going on behind the computer screens in coffee shops, or in the crowds at art galleries."

"Norris seems fascinated, as any restaurant server or cabdriver might, by the subtexts beneath cordiality," she wrote. "Consumerism is another favorite topic."

"I make people laugh and I think laughter is prayer," she told the Seattle city council's news service. Norris's regular strip, “Everyone is a Critic,” is published by City Arts magazine.

If this is to defend freedom of speech I am up. Anyone getting on this? We are the ClockCrew after all.

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Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: GodClock on April 26, 2010, 03:53:28 AM
i will join!
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: TwistClock on April 26, 2010, 04:06:15 AM
I would if i had a facebook
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: TequilaClock on April 26, 2010, 04:09:58 AM
Quote from: A MALE HUMAN WITHOUT HAT;1747062I would if i had a facebook

whore it anywhere else. Deviantart, another forum, Twitter, Something Awful, I don't care.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: BellClock on April 26, 2010, 05:47:56 AM
I'm in.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: Thor on April 26, 2010, 06:02:03 AM
This is all a bit too obvious and hamhanded of a joke to be funny. That's just an opinion, but it's OBVIOUS this isn't defending free speech. If you seriously think you are defending freedom of speech by doing this you are dumb. So yeah I'm opting out.

EDIT: On second thought this is kind of funny because it's intended as a political statement but most people who are going to participate are doing it for shock value humor or because they're xenophobic.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: BunnyClock on April 26, 2010, 12:48:17 PM
my idea :'(

Quote from: BunnyClock;1746166Let's organize a day where we all mock the prophet Mohammed : (
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: YoYoClock on April 26, 2010, 01:12:59 PM
Obviously I understand the need to stand up for free speech but this is just dumb. Taking it way out of proportion. Sure you should be allowed to draw whatever you want, but why would I do that knowing it's gonna piss a load of people off, even though I don't agree they should be pissed off. I have every right to call my mother a whore but I wouldn't because it would be horribly rude.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: GingeraleClock on April 26, 2010, 01:41:48 PM
Quote from: YoYo;1747100I have every right to call my mother a whore but I wouldn't because it would be horribly rude.

I don't think calling your mother a whore and some notion of respect compares to the global ban on images depicting the Islamic prophet Mohammed. This is especially true when such things are upheld by violence or veiled threats thereof.

One could even insinuate that this notion of respect should be equally upheld for those who have a more laissez faire attitude towards humour and what is sacred.

Then again, that would be trivializing the greater aspect of it all.

Quote from: clammo;1747091yeah this is exactly it. how many unoriginal terrorist muhammad pictures are going to be sent in? my guess is 95%

I realize 95% of those images will be done by egocentrics completely void of the irony of their actions but isn't it still a legitimate political form of protest? Unless we for get these fanciful bans were instilled after the counterfeit Danish cartoons were printed.

So I have a mixed support for this. I don't believe anything is so sacred that it cannot be mocked but I doubt this will get that message across. Less, that it will show the Islamic-East some humility.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: Asshatclock on April 26, 2010, 02:35:54 PM
We should depict mohammed as a fruit with a clockface.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: GearBoxClock on April 26, 2010, 02:50:53 PM
I'm going to photoshop something bizarre
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: Pocket Watch on April 26, 2010, 04:52:08 PM
As much as I am for free speech, this doesn't seem like a good idea to me. I'm not saying "Don't do it because it might offend a Muslim", but I am saying "It's probably not a good idea because it might cause the Muslims to do something horrible".
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: NintendrCkolc on April 26, 2010, 05:10:59 PM
Quote from: Asshatclock;1747114We should depict mohammed as a fruit with a clockface.

Best idea so far
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: Slurpee on April 26, 2010, 05:15:11 PM
Quote from: Pocket Watch;1747155As much as I am for free speech, this doesn't seem like a good idea to me. I'm not saying "Don't do it because it might offend a Muslim", but I am saying "It's probably not a good idea because it might cause the Muslims to do something horrible".
1) nice job not differentiating between muslims and violent extremists
2) if my death would mean the continued freedom to make fun of things, bring it.
no bitchassness.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: Pocket Watch on April 26, 2010, 05:17:15 PM
Quote from: Slurpee;17471571) nice job not differentiating between muslims and violent extremists

All right, all right, pardon me. It might cause violent extremists to do something horrible.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: TequilaClock on April 26, 2010, 06:24:37 PM
Because this is totally about South Park and nothing else
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK on April 26, 2010, 06:52:56 PM
I hereby declare the following image to be a depiction of the prophet Muhammad.

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Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: Thor on April 26, 2010, 07:44:40 PM
Quote from: FloundermanClock;1747207I hereby declare the following image to be a depiction of the prophet Muhammad.

I've never been this close to converting
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: pop-tart on April 26, 2010, 11:47:39 PM
Quote from: Pocket Watch;1747155"It's probably not a good idea because it might cause the Muslims to do something horrible".

Note to self: Terrorism works on this guy.
 
 
Give me your money kid or I'll kill your dog.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: Thor on April 27, 2010, 12:13:48 AM
Quote from: Pop-Tart;1747255Note to self: Terrorism works on this guy.
 
 
Give me your money kid or I'll kill your dog.

A lesson in humor theory:

Telling the same joke twice in a row like you just did ruins the joke.

The delivery would have been more successful if you had simply posted "Note to self: Terrorism works on this guy" and then stopped typing. The second line was redundant and said stuff that you already said before.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: zl on April 27, 2010, 12:16:57 AM
thor could you teach me to be humorous?
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: Thor on April 27, 2010, 12:19:29 AM
Quote from: Zombie Lincoln;1747259thor could you teach me to be humorous?

I'm sorry Zombie Lincoln, I'm not sure you have what it takes. Some people are just born not hilarious.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: pop-tart on April 27, 2010, 12:26:35 AM
A lesson in apathy towards your critique of my joke:
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: Thor on April 27, 2010, 01:13:18 AM
Quote from: Pop-Tart;1747264A lesson in apathy towards your critique of my joke:

Much better. :cool:
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: PentagramClock on April 27, 2010, 08:27:10 AM
I think this would be offensive to many people so I will not participate.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: TequilaClock on April 27, 2010, 06:26:04 PM
So I am being told this was planned as a joke. If it's true, gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: RabidClock on April 28, 2010, 08:30:00 AM
How long do you think a Mohammad flash spam on NG would last?
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: WrenchClock on April 28, 2010, 10:47:02 AM
Remember: The Clock Crew is going for the bounty record, so draw those prophets!!!!
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: Thor on April 28, 2010, 08:32:56 PM
If we all get killed by Muslim extremists maybe we'll finally get a Wikipedia page.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: PoisonshroomClock on April 28, 2010, 09:56:49 PM
got mine drawn up

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Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: Kombucha on April 28, 2010, 09:59:03 PM
Draw it again on May 20th.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: pop-tart on April 28, 2010, 10:32:56 PM
Quote from: PentagramClock;1747304I think this would be offensive to many people so I will not participate.

Not a good reason to not do something, dude. If that's the only reason, that is. If all artists held that mentality... I'd have no movies to watch, no music to listen to..
 
Now, if you meant to say you're not doing this because it's just people trying to intentionally offend.... to generate shock reactions with no intentions of promoting creativity and observing artistic integrity... That, I would agree with.
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: miracle fruit on April 28, 2010, 10:49:02 PM
better idea: everybody draw strawberryclock
Title: May 20th: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day
Post by: Thor on April 29, 2010, 12:22:23 AM
Quote from: clammo;1747580are you talking about yourself here?

I'm starting to think you don't like me