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My favorite is the full JTHM collection.

I am! I like the Scott Pilgrim series, among others. I'm also into Tintin, though I'm not sure if everyone would classify that as a graphic novel (I would).

Also Batman. I have Year One and The Long Halloween.

Quote from: AnkhClock;1787079I am! I like the Scott Pilgrim series, among others. I'm also into Tintin, though I'm not sure if everyone would classify that as a graphic novel (I would).

Also Batman. I have Year One and The Long Halloween.

I'm still trying to get my hands on Scott Pilgrim, and I am a fan on Tintin.

By graphic novels, do you mean comics? If so: Achewood is quite fine.

Asterix, Dragonball, some assorted others.

Quote from: Blob;1787082By graphic novels, do you mean comics? If so: Achewood is quite fine.

That's a webcomic. A graphic novel is, well, a novel depicted graphically.

Quote from: Blob;1787082By graphic novels, do you mean comics? If so: Achewood is quite fine.

Uh Achewood's a web comic. Graphic novels are comic books but thicker.

Yes, but you can buy the books and read them... GRAPHICALLY.

No other Johnny The Homicidal Maniac fans?

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Superman: Red Son is pretty fine

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also jimmy corrigan this depressing brick of a book is done by a guy who used to be a draftsman so the art is amazing
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I haven't ready any obscure stuff, but what I've read Watchmen, V For Vendetta, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (all the Alan Moore is incidental), and You Are Here.

Quote from: Topcatyo;1839334I haven't ready any obscure stuff, but what I've read Watchmen, V For Vendetta, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (all the Alan Moore is incidental), and You Are Here.

how was League?

Quote from: Smurfberry;1839421how was League?

Fanfuckingtastic

you are all dumb

they are called trade paperbacks

Quote from: Flounderfruit;1839962you are all dumb

they are called trade paperbacks

ACTUALLY, MOM

TPB is a publishing term comicbook fans inaccurately use to refer to collections of comicbooks that were originally published in another format. Referring to all graphic novels as trade paperbacks is just a further inaccuracy.
The JTHM and Batman Year One collections are trade paperbacks, but Fun Home, for example, isn't.

On top of that, "graphic novel" is essentially just another way of saying "comicbook", which, while usually associated with comics published in the popular magazine format, is actually itself a semantically dubious way of referring to any stories told through sequential illustration. The term "graphic novel" implies a long narrative with illustration taking the place of literary prose, which a lot of comicbooks are anyway, and a lot of "graphic novels" notably aren't. It's a childish attempt to divorce "mature" material in this narrative format from its stigmatized roots, used by marketing departments to make readers and insecure authors feel better about ensconcing themselves in cartoons. "Comic" is good enough for Jeff Smith and Alan Moore. I say it's good enough so for we, drawers of silly fruit cartoons.

But that's semantics.
Call them whatever you want, everybody! It's a wonderful world of individual parlance!
Crusty, sweaty, throbbing individual parlance!


Y: The Last Man was pretty good.

its what hipsters and cool people like me call them slurpee

deal with it

Hipsters call it "sequential art".

I do think there's a difference between "graphic novels" and "comic books". Comic books are published monthly, and you could actually call them magazines since they fit the definition of that word, too. "Comic book" implies a consisent and frequent release date for a series, whereas "graphic novel" refers to something where the release date is decided like, well, novels.  Really, they're both comic books, though.

Then again I've seen you talk about this kinda stuff before and you clearly know much more than more than me so I'm just a butt.

Also, hipsters don't read comic books/graphic novels/sequential art.

They read flipbooks.

i just ifnished Blankets by craig thompson and i have to say the whole thing was utterly beautiful and Tender but the ending was ugh waht a fucking idiot pretty much that was my response. iwanted to bury the book under a garden of rotten clumps of hair itwas fucking atrocious fuck ugh jsut fuck

I've been reading hellboy trades which are good stuff, and I'm really into the walking dead, it's pretty great stuff.  I started reading sandman, but it's kinda wacky so far.  I also like a lot of the things that have been listed so far, although I have not read tin-tin.  Should I?

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recommended

year bump ++

watchmen, ghost world, black hole

My favourite graphic novel is the one Bryan Lee O'Malley made before Scott Pilgrim, called Lost at Sea. It's about a 16-year-old girl that believes she doesn't have a soul because her mother gave it to a cat:

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This was back before he became Lord of the Hipsters, obviously. I hope he makes another comic like it someday, but I'm not holding my breath.

I like some of the classics, like Watchmen and Sandman and V for Vendetta, but my tastes have mostly leaned towards less superhero-oriented comics, like Sam & Max Surfin' the Highway, the graphic novel adaptations of Neil Gaiman's novels like Neverwhere and Coraline, ElfQuest by Wendy and Richard Pini, and Whiteout by Greg Rucka. It's 50,908,267,318 times better than the movie.

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I've been meaning to read this one for a while.

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This book suuuuuuuuucked.

I was a big fan of the Scott Pilgrim books, but not anywhere near my favorite.  Everybody who reads graphic novels has read Watchmen by this point, so that's obv. at the top of the list, but I gotta say I was a big fan of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.  The movie was godawful in comparison (and by itself but it was fun to watch).  I just love the art style and the pacing of the story.

I read V for Vendetta as well, and I thought it was a great story but the art I wasn't a fan of.  I had a problem where I saw one character die, then saw them again alive and I was like "Oh how long has this been a flashback?" and then I realized that it was another character who just looks the same and that I'd been reading several scenes in the book wrong.  Again, great story, you can hear Alan Moore having an orgasm for anarchy as you read it, but the art just didn't service the story well.  Not that it wasn't well drawn, but a lot of the characters were too similar looking.

Ghost World I bought sight unseen on the basis of hearing the name kicked around. A lot of that may have had to do with the film version. It was pretty good, but not the greatest comic I've ever read. Not that there aren't people I might recommend it to.

I remember liking Asterios Polyp a lot. It's been a while since I read it, so I don't remember what I thought was good about it.

I read Kid Koala's Space Cadet a few months ago. I'm never sure I'm doing the soundtrack/page coordination thing right, but that was good as well. The big deal about the comic (other than the accompanying soundtrack) is that it was all done on etchboard, so everything is white etching on a black background. If you like the soundtrack, you'll probably like the comic, and vice versa. Boy, am I bad at remembering/reviewing comics.

Recently I bought the first The Whole Story (http://www.the-whole-story.com/) bundle. The comics within weren't all long-format, so maybe not all were "graphic novels." Generally I dug Nam Yong Doon's art, and the English rewritings by Internet comics superstars were sort of a mixed bag but generally good. Box Brown's comics were heavier, but had some really good spots - particularly stories like "Ben Died of a Train" in The Great Disappointment: Everything Dies Vol. 1 (which was part of the sample PDF). I wasn't as crazy about Ryan Estrada's The Kind, but my feelings about that one were sort of mixed. He's a good dude for putting the whole bundle thing together, though.

Quote from: Topcatyo;1914617I read V for Vendetta as well, and I thought it was a great story but the art I wasn't a fan of.  I had a problem where I saw one character die, then saw them again alive and I was like "Oh how long has this been a flashback?" and then I realized that it was another character who just looks the same and that I'd been reading several scenes in the book wrong.  Again, great story, you can hear Alan Moore having an orgasm for anarchy as you read it, but the art just didn't service the story well.  Not that it wasn't well drawn, but a lot of the characters were too similar looking.

The book also felt quite dated and silly in a lot of parts, especially compared to the film version. Sure, it watered down the character of V, it was practically giving Nineteen Eighty-Four a tongue-bath most of the time, and it was pretty anvilicious in a lot of ways, but in the comic, the government is actually run by a giant computer that Adam Sutler Sugar is so impressed by that he whacks off in its presence, and V somehow hacked it to control the government and disillusion the Chancellor. Also, Lewis Prothero is not a news pundit, but the "voice" of the supercomputer, since even though it can automate the operation of an entire country, it has no speech synthesis, which my friggin' MacBook is capable of. And V doesn't kill him, he just makes him catatonic by burning his PWECIOUSSSSS doll collection!

Also, Eric Finch's revelation at the Larkhill detention centre, in the comic, comes as a result of him dropping acid and running around without any clothes on. Given Alan Moore's tendency towards that kind of thing, I'm surprised he didn't have sex with a hallucination. I liked the character of Alistair Harper, though, even though I couldn't understand what he was saying half the time. :P He was a sorely missed character from the film version.

I seem to be one of the only people who's pretty down on Scott Pilgrim (maybe because I liked the previous author's book so much, and it has such a wildly different tone). I liked the first three volumes when the idea was fresh, but by the fourth, it seemed to become too self-aware, and by the fifth, you could tell the movie deal was already made, and he was writing the comics for the benefit of the movie version, like what happened with the later Harry Potter books.

Quote from: SnakeClock;1914613This book suuuuuuuuucked.

I think it had good parts and bad parts. I think the LSD trip was really well done, but the fish tail girl seemed like wish fulfillment. It's been a while, I have to read it again. (the art was fantastic too)

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recommended

This one by the same author is also excellent. Only in French and Dutch language unfortunately but I'm sure it will appear in English before too long.