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Title: Man, 99% of videogames really suck
Post by: Munglai on June 19, 2011, 08:19:29 PM
What a huge void of really dull, mediocre shit the world of videogames is. I just finished playing LA Noire and I thought that it was mostly really good. It had lots of problems but it was involving and unusual. Before that I think the last decent game I played was... Arkham Asylum maybe. I can't think of a game since then I thought was really worthwhile. The next game that looks worth investing any time is is Arkham City. That's pretty pathetic. A good game roughly every 6 months. Videogame companies need to get their shit together.
Title: Man, 99% of videogames really suck
Post by: Munglai on June 19, 2011, 08:20:15 PM
Oh, I didn't play Portal 2 yet but I'm sure it's got to be a pretty good since Valve are pretty much incapable of doing anything wrong.
Title: Man, 99% of videogames really suck
Post by: TequilaClock on June 19, 2011, 09:04:36 PM
Sturgeon's Law.
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Post by: AmberArachnidClock on June 19, 2011, 09:07:15 PM
SKYRIM

besides waiting for that I've just been emulating old SNES games
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Post by: buttplug on June 19, 2011, 09:58:57 PM
Yeah I'd have to agree.
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Post by: SockpuppetClock on June 19, 2011, 11:11:06 PM
better idea: play through games you missed out on that didn't come out this year or last year or whatnot (2001-2007 was a great time period for games)

I've been playing through old adventure games and I'm completely content
Title: Man, 99% of videogames really suck
Post by: TequilaClock on June 19, 2011, 11:35:44 PM
Quote from: SockpuppetClock;1828084better idea: play through games you missed out on that didn't come out this year or last year or whatnot (2001-2007 was a great time period for games)

I've been playing through old adventure games and I'm completely content

i pretty much do this, I've been spending the latest months getting GameCube games to fll out on what I missed from the past generation.
Title: Man, 99% of videogames really suck
Post by: Munglai on June 20, 2011, 05:27:12 PM
Quote from: Satellite;1828075SKYRIM

For me that's pretty much the epitome of uncreative game making. The fact that game lovers lap it up makes it even worse.

Quote from: RibsClock;1828085bla bla bla

I'm talking by game designer standards I guess. Most games companies don't make a single good decision in their entire lifespan.

Quote from: SockpuppetClock;1828084better idea: play through games you missed out on that didn't come out this year or last year or whatnot (2001-2007 was a great time period for games)

I've been playing through old adventure games and I'm completely content

Got any suggestions? I've had a look back a couple of times and I don't feel like I missed out on a whole lot.
Title: Man, 99% of videogames really suck
Post by: Thor on June 20, 2011, 05:50:33 PM
Fighting Games are in a golden age right now, if you're into that sort of thing.

Quote from: Munglai;1828169Got any suggestions? I've had a look back a couple of times and I don't feel like I missed out on a whole lot.

If you want to find some really good games easily just go to a game review website and track down their "top scores of all time" for various consoles.

Of course there's going to be some bullshit up there too but looking at IGNs top PS3 games I see such masterpieces as Metal Gear Solid 4, Red Dead Redemption, GTA 4, Portal 2, and Uncharted 2, all great games well worth a play.
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Post by: OvenmittClock on June 20, 2011, 06:04:12 PM
Play tetris.
Title: Man, 99% of videogames really suck
Post by: Munglai on June 20, 2011, 06:11:00 PM
Quote from: Thor;1828172Fighting Games are in a golden age right now, if you're into that sort of thing.


 
If you want to find some really good games easily just go to a game review website and track down their "top scores of all time" for various consoles.

Of course there's going to be some bullshit up there too but looking at IGNs top PS3 games I see such masterpieces as Metal Gear Solid 4, Red Dead Redemption, GTA 4, Portal 2, and Uncharted 2, all great games well worth a play.

I used to love fighting games but I'm a bit bored of them now. I've played all the games you mentioned there. Everything I haven't played in the top 10 lists just seem to be reiterations of Halo or Call of Duty.
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Post by: TequilaClock on June 20, 2011, 06:48:55 PM
Munglai i think you just don't like video games, like, at all.
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Post by: Thor on June 20, 2011, 06:58:35 PM
Quote from: Munglai;1828178I used to love fighting games but I'm a bit bored of them now. I've played all the games you mentioned there. Everything I haven't played in the top 10 lists just seem to be reiterations of Halo or Call of Duty.

Suggesting specific games is probably a bad idea since I have no idea what you like or what you've already played, but  I assure you there ARE still good games out there, and they're still coming out. You just may have to do some research to separate the wheat from the chaff

Avoiding FPS games is a good way to expedite the process these days.
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Post by: OvenmittClock on June 20, 2011, 07:27:18 PM
Also play LBA 1 & 2
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Post by: YoYoClock on June 20, 2011, 09:15:59 PM
video games are going the way of films and music in that the stuff that is thrust into our faces 24 hours a day is often the worst stuff
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Post by: Sinister Clock on June 20, 2011, 09:19:44 PM
Quote from: TequilaClock;1828087i pretty much do this, I've been spending the latest months getting GameCube games to fll out on what I missed from the past generation.

Thirding this, I've just finished Luigi's Mansion and I'm now just playing through God Hand on an emulator. These games own hard.

Also I have a PS2 and gamecube controller with a USB adapter so it's like I'm playing a HD PS2 or Gamecube.
Title: Man, 99% of videogames really suck
Post by: Munglai on June 20, 2011, 09:48:35 PM
Quote from: YoYoClock;1828197video games are going the way of films and music in that the stuff that is thrust into our faces 24 hours a day is often the worst stuff

Nah, the range of videogames is much much smaller than films or music. Even most indie games seem to be pretty desperate. Loads of zombies and internet jokes. God damn.


Quote from: TequilaClock;1828184Munglai i think you just don't like video games, like, at all.

I like them a lot in theory, they just need to outgrow their pandering to teenage boys phase.

I'm just annoyed because LA Noire put me in the mood for more games and I can't find anything decent.
Title: Man, 99% of videogames really suck
Post by: Sinister Clock on June 20, 2011, 10:12:37 PM
Playing games when I was 12 was way better than playing games now. I would put up with a whole bunch of shit and still have way more fun.
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Post by: Marlin Clock on June 20, 2011, 11:15:13 PM
Quote from: Munglai;1828200Nah, the range of videogames is much much smaller than films or music. Even most indie games seem to be pretty desperate. Loads of zombies and internet jokes. God damn.



 
I like them a lot in theory, they just need to outgrow their pandering to teenage boys phase.

I'm just annoyed because LA Noire put me in the mood for more games and I can't find anything decent.
Well there's always Phoenix Wright if you liked the interrogation parts of LA Noire. I can't remember if you've played those or not.
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Post by: BluezombieClock on June 20, 2011, 11:30:57 PM
Dont know if you're into open world power fantasy games, but inFamous 2 is keeping me hella busy

If you liked l.a noire, you might like Hotel dusk on the DS. Its kinda similar
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Post by: DigitalLemonClock on June 21, 2011, 03:38:31 AM
dont play i guess?

i dont see the problem in being selective about games
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Post by: NintendrCkolc on June 21, 2011, 04:07:51 AM
just do what I do and play older shit. Break out an old system and buy some games you wanted to play but didn't get the chance too. That's what i've been doing for years.
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Post by: DWARFINATORclock on June 21, 2011, 07:44:15 AM
Quote from: Thor;1828172Fighting Games are in a golden age right now, if you're into that sort of thing.


 
If you want to find some really good games easily just go to a game review website and track down their "top scores of all time" for various consoles.

Of course there's going to be some bullshit up there too but looking at IGNs top PS3 games I see such masterpieces as Metal Gear Solid 4, Red Dead Redemption, GTA 4, Portal 2, and Uncharted 2, all great games well worth a play.

How is GTA4 a masterpiece?
Title: Man, 99% of videogames really suck
Post by: WrenchClock on June 21, 2011, 08:02:08 AM
GTA4 was dull as shit, Rockstar forgot it was supposed to be funny and all the reviewers were constantly going on about how it's "SO DEEP MAN"
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Post by: WrenchClock on June 21, 2011, 08:09:08 AM
Saints Row is waaaaay more fun

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Post by: MonsterMunch on June 21, 2011, 09:10:58 AM
I agree in that most games with a story are pretty poorly written and rarely explore areas other then good/evil.

I thought Red Dead Redemption was fantastic. I know people will say "Cowboy GTA" but I thought it had great writing and was in an interesting setting ie the transitional period between the 19th century to the 20th, leading to WW1 which has started by the end of the game.

Although it was glitchy as hell and added nothing new gameplay-wise, I loved Fallout New Vegas because it had a game based on political ideas, both for the factions and the player. The NCR want a democratic republic, The Legion want a Pax Romana, Mr House wants to be almost a demigod/dictator and New Vegas Independence can be achieved for either the idea of freedom and/or anarchy. And also the courier can choose their side based on personal ideals, personal gain or just for the hell of it. Depending on how involved you get when you play RPGs.

I think Agent, the next game from Rockstar, about espionage during the cold war will throw some new ideas for video games. Especially after the success of LA Noire.
Title: Man, 99% of videogames really suck
Post by: Loki Clock on June 21, 2011, 12:50:53 PM
My favorite game genre, the 3D adventure/platformer, is almost completely defunct. The only thing left of interest to me are physics experiments, which are isolated events by nature.
Title: Man, 99% of videogames really suck
Post by: Flounderpa on June 21, 2011, 01:31:10 PM
you can try the first dragon age if you haven't played it, why?, because I have been playing it and is a very good game and I have been trying to get it out of my chest
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Post by: Thunderbolt on June 30, 2011, 10:31:08 AM
Diablo 2 is still a nice game. Have been playing it a couple of days, last month.
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Post by: Topcatyo on June 30, 2011, 11:24:57 AM
I've been playing Demon Souls as of late and that game is pretty fun, even if it is slow going and unforgiving as all hell.

Also I finally got Marvel vs. Capcom 3 and if you haven't played that yet I highly recommend it. It's fun and surprisingly deep.
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Post by: Marlin Clock on June 30, 2011, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: Loki;1828257My favorite game genre, the 3D adventure/platformer, is almost completely defunct. The only thing left of interest to me are physics experiments, which are isolated events by nature.
You can always just replay Psychonauts.
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Post by: Sinister Clock on June 30, 2011, 01:25:45 PM
Quote from: clammo;1829466All of Rockstar sandbox games are generally incredible. The GTA4 exception is because there was too much shit tacked on like the cell phone and the friends you had to help out for no fucken reason. Stupid shit like that brought the game way down, otherwise it probably would have been the best GTA of them all. Rockstar learned its lesson from that and it shows in RDR and LA Noire.

Exception? GTA SA had a bunch of I'm a edgy teen shit as well. Having to go to a button mashing gym to stay healthy, for example.
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Post by: Marlin Clock on June 30, 2011, 01:27:31 PM
Also technically Rockstar really didn't have anything to do with the development of LA Noire, just the publishing.
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Post by: miracle fruit on June 30, 2011, 01:51:20 PM
Quote from: clammo;1829478HELLO??? NIKO????????????????


U NEED A CABE

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Post by: miracle fruit on June 30, 2011, 01:58:56 PM
gta 4 isnt the strongest R* sandbox but theres some things i still really like (ie the driving mechanics)

its still better than pretty much every other sandbox game not including rockstar
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Post by: DominoClock on June 30, 2011, 02:13:21 PM
i think the problem with games nowadays is that they either try to be as visually pleasing as possible or that they're trying to have a story that is as elaborate as possible, without focusing on the game-play at all.

Kind of like a very well made DVD menu.

edit: also as far as sandbox games go, i was pretty satisfied with [prototype]
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Post by: NintendrCkolc on June 30, 2011, 03:18:14 PM
I have yet to play a Sandbox game that I haven't gotten incredibly bored with 10 hours in.

Rockstar sucks at it IMO. RDR was probably their best work and that's not saying much. After the initial WOW factor that GTA3 had, I could care less about sandbox games. Assassins creed does a decent job but after 2 and Brotherhood i'm kinda burnt out on the franchise. Infamous left a really bad taste in my mouth with its repetitive missions and boring story/setting.

I hear Infamous 2 is pretty good but I have yet to play it.
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Post by: BluezombieClock on June 30, 2011, 03:21:41 PM
Imo rockstar doesnt make the best sandbox games. They're deep, rich and full of events, sure.

But personally nothing compares to a power-fantasy open world game ( prototype, infamous ).

Prototype, through it's flawed AI, general repetitiveness and terrible graphics still manages to shine by the fact that moving around NEVER once feels like a chore. Wanna get from point A to B? Fuck cars, jump over 3 streets and keep running at 60mph over any obstacle.

In my eyes, thats a true sandbox game
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Post by: SockpuppetClock on June 30, 2011, 06:46:38 PM
on the note of sandbox, Spider-Man 2 is still the best superhero game that-is-also-open-world ever. If you think of grinding through the story missions you'll miss out on just how much there is to find in the world. It's completely ridiculous how much they stuck into that game.

also, Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction is a close contender. HULK HEADBUTT WHOOOSH KABOOOM SMASH RIP AND TEAR CAR BOXING GLOVES

but I haven't really been playing those games recently sadly, I've been catching up on old things people always praise, like Myst and Another World and KOTOR and Outcast and The Longest Journey et all
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Post by: Thor on July 01, 2011, 04:27:21 AM
Quote from: BluezombieClock;1829485But personally nothing compares to a power-fantasy open world game ( prototype, infamous ).

Infamous sucks though. All the side missions are the same 4 things over and over and no matter what you do it doesn't matter and there's no repercussions. At least in Rockstar games the cops come after you if you're a megatwat.
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Post by: DominoClock on July 01, 2011, 06:10:12 AM
Quote from: NINTY;1829484I have yet to play a Sandbox game that I haven't gotten incredibly bored with 10 hours in.

10 hours? Consider yourself lucky then, i usually get bored within 2-3 hours.