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Community => General Discussion => Topic farted by: F U Clock on August 30, 2011, 03:26:44 PM

Poll
Question: How do you feel about recorded voices in Clock movies?
Option 1: ell naw, real voices are totes lame! votes: 4
Option 2: eal voices are fine, brother! votes: 0
Option 3:  don\'t care. Why does F U make just the worst polls? votes: 0
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: F U Clock on August 30, 2011, 03:26:44 PM
One of the first things I decide when I'm starting a new Flash is whether I want to use real recorded voices or not. But I wonder, is it un-Clock-like to use anything but text-to-speech voices? I've gotten some criticism for the movies I've recorded dialogue in, and I wonder where you guys stand on the issue.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: d u m p y on August 30, 2011, 03:28:31 PM
i guess if you do it well enough then nobody would really care. otherwise i'd consider it a taboo
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: miracle fruit on August 30, 2011, 03:29:24 PM
i dont like voice acting. internet voice actors suck

i like text-to-speech, but not speakonia exclusively
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: LotusClock on August 30, 2011, 03:32:41 PM
I think it all depends what kind of tone you want to give to your movie. Real voices fit better with movies with a more serious tone, while Speakonia voices sound goofy and are more effective in random spam funnies. It's just how I see it, though. You go with what seems the most appropriate.

Remember that one of the main aspect of being a Clock is that we don't care what Newgrounders think anyway.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: BluezombieClock on August 30, 2011, 03:35:45 PM
All my recent flash have been sprinkled with real voice acting. I personally like it. I may use speakonia for effect from some characters.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: miracle fruit on August 30, 2011, 03:37:51 PM
Quote from: BluezombieClock;1846377All my recent flash have been sprinkled with real voice acting. I personally like it. I may use speakonia for effect from some characters.

yeah its always cool when you have real voices interacting with speakonia voices btw
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: F U Clock on August 30, 2011, 03:46:43 PM
Quote from: RibsClock;1846380FU Clock goes hunting was great with voices.
The Clock War part III was great with TTS.

{{{Cropsey}}}
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: d u m p y on August 30, 2011, 03:47:30 PM
Quote from: RibsClock;1846380FU Clock goes hunting was great with voices.
The Clock War part III was great with TTS.

this is the kind of thing i was trying to get at
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Post by: AnkhClock on August 30, 2011, 03:58:31 PM
It's fine do whatever you want seriously.
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Post by: HeinekenClock on August 30, 2011, 04:01:59 PM
I don't really mind either way. Sometimes text to speech fits the tone of the movie better but most of the time it doesn't matter.
Sometimes I do one voice with my mic and have the rest be text to speech.
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Post by: AC Slater on August 30, 2011, 04:12:33 PM
I usually always use real voices, but on rare special occasions I'll use TTS voices.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: MentosClock on August 30, 2011, 04:15:41 PM
Sometimes voice acting can make a flash way funnier (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/507421), as long as the voice actors know how to be funny. And, since the Clock Crew sometimes likes being funny, this definitely shouldn't be considered 'un-clocklike'.

When I used to do voices for my Clock cartoons, however, my monotone voice-acting was too unfunny to even be considered funny ironically. So, while voice acting can be good, it is definitely NOT for everyone.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK on August 30, 2011, 04:17:53 PM
I use whatever is funnier.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: RobClock on August 30, 2011, 04:29:58 PM
I vote butts.

Honestly though, I just prefer the convenience of text-to-speech over getting people to record lines for me.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: miracle fruit on August 30, 2011, 04:32:38 PM
Quote from: MiracleFruitClock;1846368i dont like voice acting. internet voice actors suck

i should make an exception for bb10s sexy greek accent
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: DWARFINATORclock on August 30, 2011, 04:50:43 PM
real voices > text to speech
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: GreyClock on August 30, 2011, 04:53:58 PM
Quote from: MiracleFruitClock;1846413i should make an exception for bb10s sexy greek accent
BilliardBall10Clock is how every clock should sound in every movie.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: Munglai on August 30, 2011, 04:53:59 PM
being clock-like is ass
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Post by: Clocktopus on August 30, 2011, 05:34:52 PM
I usually use text to speech but for like sound effects or something sometimes I'll record myself.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: PolyhedronClock on August 30, 2011, 05:47:46 PM
i voted the third option because i've seen both used in some pretty nice flashes.
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Post by: Marlin Clock on August 31, 2011, 01:57:16 AM
Just depends on how good they are. I like a lot of Toppy's flashes because of their voice acting like this one (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/528960), but its mostly because I think toppy does good voice acting.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: RenegadeClock on August 31, 2011, 02:00:40 AM
If you've got the talent for voice acting and the equipment to pull it off well then yeah, go for it. But like was said before, it all depends on the tone of the movie.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: Slurpee on August 31, 2011, 03:20:20 AM
You can do anything you want. You just have to be good enough to execute it.

(I speak in generality, of course)

TTS is an easier sell because you're generally always going to get the same readings, which you can bend to your intent without hassle, as opposed to working with an actor, who can, intentionally or not, convey a myriad of subtle emotional shifts, which might not be in line with your intent... or which you might merely be too nice to say you can't make use of. (A habit which, while polite, I would like to take this opportunity to gently discourage.)

With TTS, you get an instinctual feeling for a competent way to play it, especially since it's fairly well plonked into the overall perception of clock flashes. You've probably seen a lot of clock movies, and you probably have a general idea, conscious or not, of how they deal with TTS communication. Thus you'll have, theoretically, a natural sense of tone and timing with TTS when you make your own flash. Voice acting doesn't have that luxury. You have to play it carefully.

But, as I said, you can do anything you want, you just have to be good enough to execute it.
We are a small and eccentric herd. What is different must also impress.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: SpongeClock SquarePants on August 31, 2011, 03:33:59 AM
difficult, but depends on the movie i guess.
When TTS is used sometimes i dont hear half the stuff that is said, subtitles would be handy.

EDIT : Most of you have these gay teen voices so i would stick with TSS because that shit is way easier on my ears.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: I1I1I1I1I1I1I11111I1I1I1IIIIIII1I1I1I1I11I on August 31, 2011, 07:27:13 AM
It's only good if BB10 does it for you.




But, actually, FU Clock Goes Hunting actually fitted great with voices, it just depends on what circumstance you use them in.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: AstronautClock on August 31, 2011, 07:30:06 AM
I tweak my TTS voices so they come across a bit more realistic. I dont really have any real experience with voice actors and it would be a pain to get the right one
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: AbsintheClock on August 31, 2011, 11:51:20 AM
Honestly, I almost never use the speakonia voices. It's really just a matter of "do what you like."
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: BoltClock on August 31, 2011, 11:56:24 AM
Somebody needs to feed F U's secret curiosity as to what his Clock Day song (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/577015) would sound like in TTS.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: StrangeClock on August 31, 2011, 12:05:10 PM
In an ideal world, all Clock movies would be voiced by Krak.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: PirateClock on August 31, 2011, 12:08:46 PM
pm BB10 for all your voice acting needs
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Post by: patriotclock on August 31, 2011, 02:20:45 PM
Real voices are fine. I personally prefer computer voices though
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Post by: ActionClock on August 31, 2011, 05:25:38 PM
I like voice acting, but hey, either can be good
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: buttplug on August 31, 2011, 05:41:35 PM
I always liked when people mixed them together in the same movie.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: miracle fruit on August 31, 2011, 05:50:06 PM
if u dont use speakonia ur straght up ghey no way around it
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Post by: miracle fruit on August 31, 2011, 05:59:53 PM
first of all to use speaknia u need to be straight so theres that....................................................
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: Sinister Clock on August 31, 2011, 06:10:43 PM
It's definitely a stylistic choice. Usually in my high effort movies I'll try to manually alter speakonia voices to get more depth and emotion out of them. If I have non clock characters, I tend to use voice acting to separate them from clocks, making clocks seem like a completely different being. What I want to start using now is vocaloid, now that I've got a pirate copy. It's a bit iffy though.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: Thor on August 31, 2011, 07:00:13 PM
Real voice actors just don't seem as "clocky" to me. Like, along with the objects with clocks on them robot voices are one of the few things that define clock movies as a genre. I would probably be more receptive if I heard a movie with good voice action in it, which I have yet to see (with the exception of intentionally over the top stuff like Lot of Fries). It's very difficult to do a natural reading of a script, and I fear it's a skill nobody in the clock crew possesses.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: Topcatyo on August 31, 2011, 08:20:14 PM
It all depends. I've been using real voice acting a lot more lately because I've had some troubles with getting Speakonia to work.  With my Pass The Flash 2 part I tried to have real voice acting but I hated it so I ended up using outtakes from Zen Micro and doing a goofy voice for the rest of the characters, so yeah.

It depends on how well you pull what off
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: RobClock on August 31, 2011, 08:42:54 PM
Quote from: Topcatyo;1847011With my Pass The Flash 2 part I tried to have real voice acting but I hated it so I ended up using outtakes from Zen Micro and doing a goofy voice for the rest of the characters, so yeah.

I liked the non-goofy voices more :(
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: OvenmittClock on August 31, 2011, 08:48:43 PM
Man... I just received my new microphone which i ordered from china. The quality is great, so I can prolly do some shitty ass voice acting too.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: Slurpee on August 31, 2011, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Thor;1846980It's very difficult to do a natural reading of a script, and I fear it's a skill nobody in the clock crew possesses.
uh ok? obv u haven't seen the acclaimed motion picture feature halo 4: clamel dilemmas...........
I did all the voices in the post-credits sequence..... it's only the best acting on ng but w/e I guess your too "cool" for tat  :rolleyes: :jerk: :stubborn:
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: Sinister Clock on August 31, 2011, 10:45:28 PM
There's always the possibility of getting real voice acting but saying it robotically with less emotion then adding a bunch of effects like GLaDOS
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: AMPEEEM on September 01, 2011, 02:04:26 AM
I've always thought real voices are waaay-hey better and always used em
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: Sinister Clock on September 01, 2011, 09:38:40 AM
Quote from: RibsClock;1847209I'd love to do stuff like this. I imagine that Audacity can do it, I expect however that it involves the use of tools within it that I am presently unfamiliar with.

It's apparently quite simple and there are a ton of guides how to do it in Audacity. The main thing is getting a decent voice actor who can do the robotic voice thing well.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: Topcatyo on September 01, 2011, 04:22:53 PM
*raises hand*

Also Sobe can do a robotic voice as well. I learned it from him.

I can also impersonate Speakonia I guess I dunno I haven't tried it but I'm a trying man so I'd try I guess.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: Topcatyo on September 01, 2011, 04:23:38 PM
Quote from: RobClock;1847026I liked the non-goofy voices more :(
Also while I appreciate it I was really bugged by the sound of my voice :(
It was like nails on chalkboard, but that was probably because it was my voice I was listening to.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: RobClock on September 01, 2011, 04:38:34 PM
Quote from: Topcatyo;1847379Also while I appreciate it I was really bugged by the sound of my voice :(
It was like nails on chalkboard, but that was probably because it was my voice I was listening to.

I would say so, because I rather liked your voice.


No homo.
Title: Clock Voices Thoughts
Post by: BilliardBall10 on September 01, 2011, 05:55:08 PM
ab errr--i don't know... tts voices are good and clock-like, but it's not bad breaking the mold, guys!
i mean, i LOVE voice-acting(and hearing it and doing them), and i think it adds much to the emotion of the movie.

just saying.

also, FU-clock, and zen-micro are the best examples of WHY we should have voice-acting as in clock-moviez,fellas.

uhh, also mentos, your voice isn't boring, it's so calm an' soothing, that even when a tragedy happens (like, when
the mentos gets hurt, or when megatron tried to kill pico, in ''pico-day'') it adds a comedic effect.
beeing calm on a storm.
beeing calm on a stormy day. same with radiotube. love him for that.
thinking of it, you guys have similar voices, only mento's is ALOT calmer/relaxed. epic, in my book, honest-ly.

also: topcatyo and pin, and action have hot voices.(FU clock rules. and corpse is v. good! -looking forward working with ye, again! corpsem!- yeah, they-r having hot voice-acting skills.
also rose is good)

ps.clear has one ofppg the sexiest female voices i've heard on the nets. just watch the ''clock of the rings'' by strange