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Question: Revise Rule 2?
Option 1: es votes: 17
Option 2: o votes: 0
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: Slurpee on September 21, 2011, 05:33:39 PM
is hentai illegal in canada
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: PineappleClock on September 21, 2011, 06:06:31 PM
Quote from: clammo;1857106I propose a small amendment to include hentai in the following passage

For what definition of Hentai? (I just looked it up on wikipedia) If it is of the legal variety, it falls under the no NSFW outside of the spam board rule, and if it is not, it probably falls under the aforementioned rule. For all the jurisdictional rules, I think we need to base our rules on the state law where the server resides (New york I think?)
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: AnkhClock on September 21, 2011, 06:10:25 PM
Quote from: PineappleClock;1857116(New york I think?)

Aren't the Fulps in PA? Though if we base our laws off of New York, that means gay marriage is legal in the Clock Crew!
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: Slurpee on September 21, 2011, 06:11:10 PM
Quote from: clammo;1857108The remaining 18 states (and DC) do not have laws prohibiting zoosexual activity.

that's a pretty good argument for legalizing bestiality in the clock crew I guess
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: Sombra on September 21, 2011, 06:16:18 PM
Stop liking what I don't like. QUIT IT.

Also I know this wasn't your intent Clam but it does have a little merit to ask whether the current rules would cover drawn content of the nature described... there's definitely beast/ lolicon hentai out there. Guro as well. The legality of loli in particular is still something currently challenged in the courts of various countries... couldn't hurt to make a simple revision like this:

QuotePosting any illegal content (child porn, bestiality) or animal torture, to any part of the site will result in lengthy bans and legal action where appropriate. This includes drawn content of the same nature.

edit: never mind read the rest of the rule and it covers drawn anyway
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: AnkhClock on September 21, 2011, 06:17:48 PM
Let's just not post lolicon ok?
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: patriotclock on September 21, 2011, 10:09:44 PM
Obviously voted yes to not seeing japanese cartoon porn
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: Thor on September 21, 2011, 10:19:38 PM
I'd like to see lolicon and guro added to the list of things not allowed but I don't see any harm in generic nude animes in the spam forum.


its the fuckin spam forum after all. There's something seriously wrong when you can't post one of strawberryclocks movies on the cc


I was looking for Pokemon Uncensored to post a link to but aparently strawberryclock deleted it? what hte fuck
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: VuBawlsClock on September 21, 2011, 10:24:25 PM
Quote from: Thor;1857208I'd like to see lolicon and guro added to the list of things not allowed but I don't see any harm in generic nude animes in the spam forum.

I agree
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: patriotclock on September 21, 2011, 10:30:13 PM
I don't know what "lolicon" and "guro" mean
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: Thor on September 21, 2011, 10:41:04 PM
Quote from: PatriotClock;1857215I don't know what "lolicon" and "guro" mean

Lolicon: Hentai images of female persons under the age of 18
Guro: Hentai images of persons being tortured to death and/or mutilated


I can understand why you didn't want to google this
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: PolyhedronClock on September 21, 2011, 11:02:24 PM
when i browse the spam forum, I expect some silly shenanigans that don't fall under reasonable discussion such as the general forum, not some smut, regardless of it being drawn or not.

that being said i'm going to have to side with clam on this matter, although putting it in the same category as child porn and bestiality in terms of content and punishment seems a bit too extreme.
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: Sombra on September 21, 2011, 11:39:00 PM
Hey I took a look at the front page of spam and I only saw real life "smut" (http://www.clockcrew.cc/talk/showthread.php?99056-Ass-n-Titties) as you call it, maybe we should focus on banning that first since it's more prevalent. This way our innocence is preserved.
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK on September 21, 2011, 11:47:43 PM
waaaa waaaa make the spam forum have rules.


edit: forgot about the most important rule, no pooftahs
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK on September 22, 2011, 12:07:53 AM
Quote from: clammo;1857244waaa waaa i disagree with this proposition im gonna troll this thread

This thread is sort of a troll too. You dont want to ban all NSFW, you just want to ban a specific kind of NSFW. Because you have some sort of blood feud with japan. Did some guy dress as goku and molest you as a kid or what.
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: SockpuppetClock on September 22, 2011, 12:11:30 AM
Maybe the rule should just include "no nasty shit intended to derail a thread" instead of banning a specific kind of nasty shit
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: Topcatyo on September 22, 2011, 01:07:02 AM
Honestly I'm not a big fan of the porn in the spam forum either. I'd be okay with a "no NSFW in a non-NSFW thread", a NSFW thread being one that was started with the intention of the thread being NSFW
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK on September 22, 2011, 11:39:26 AM
I'm sorry for being a dick, that was uncalled for in this forum. I'm setting a bad example. But still man, its kinda obvious why you chose hentai specifically. You do have a history with anything japanese.

If this is a serious problem I'd be okay with putting NSFW tags on images that can be turned on or off in the user cp.
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: Thor on September 22, 2011, 03:14:31 PM
This is why I didn't vote for Flounderman as a mod. I love the guy but he really shouldn't be in a possession of authority if he's going to use it to troll people.



On topic though, hows this for a rule:
No pornography (including hentai) allowed anyplace on the clockcrew.cc forums outside of threads in the spam forum specifically marked as NSFW in the thread title
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: Slurpee on September 22, 2011, 03:57:25 PM
Quote from: Thor;1857415On topic though, hows this for a rule:
No pornography (including hentai) allowed anyplace on the clockcrew.cc forums outside of threads in the spam forum specifically marked as NSFW in the thread title
this is extremely close to how it's written already:
http://www.clockcrew.cc/wiki/index.php?title=Rules
Quote2. No obscene material (porn, etc.)

Do not post any NWS (not work-safe) or questionable material in a public forum including gore, pornography or obscene material (hand-drawn or photos). This includes your user avatar or other site features that allow images or video to be uploaded. Obscene content must be kept in appropriate threads in the spam forum.

Posting any illegal content (child porn, bestiality) or animal torture to any part of the site will result in lengthy bans and legal action where appropriate.







Quote from: clammo;1857422So flounderman can just post a million hentai pics in a thread then change the thread title to NSFW? He can still just derail any thread he wants.
he can derail any thread he wants because it's the spam forum, not because hentai's not listed under the same category as animal torture and child porn
if you ban hentai anybody can just as easily derail with Ã,Â¥Ã,Â¥Ã,Â¥Ã,Â¥ and autoplay

initiave to ban cars: I keep standing in traffic and there's all these cars =(
[minipoll]0dabeo[/minipoll]
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: Slurpee on September 22, 2011, 04:10:40 PM
Quote from: clammo;1857429good to know. im just gonna post 5000 times in each thread with rape pics and everyone can just s m d because its spam forum. doesnt matter if its not fun or funny for everyone else.
that's right, it doesn't matter. it's the spam forum. if this pointless thing has one aspect you don't like and mommy refuses to make it go away, destroy it. you've never been the bigger person before, why start now?
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: miracle fruit on September 22, 2011, 04:27:09 PM
Quote from: clammo;1857422So flounderman can just post a million hentai pics in a thread then change the thread title to NSFW?
exactly. which is why what topcatyo said is a good idea
Quote from: Topcatyo;1857268I'd be okay with a "no NSFW in a non-NSFW thread", a NSFW thread being one that was started with the intention of the thread being NSFW
and regarding this:
Quote from: FloundermanClock;1857356If this is a serious problem I'd be okay with putting NSFW tags on images that can be turned on or off in the user cp.
how about a 'cartoon porn' tag. i have no problem with real titties
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: miracle fruit on September 22, 2011, 04:46:07 PM
Quote from: Slurpee;1857118that's a pretty good argument for legalizing bestiality in the clock crew I guess

welp I guess your only choice is to either add hentai to the list or remove beastiality as it is only fair

I suggest the former if you don't want me to go on a flounderesque heyday
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: Slurpee on September 22, 2011, 04:51:29 PM
Quote from: MiracleFruitClock;1857440welp I guess your only choice is to either add hentai to the list or remove beastiality as it is only fair

I suggest the former if you don't want me to go on a flounderesque heyday

actually it turns out piney was right
server's based in new york
and as clam so helpfully pointed out
Quote from: clammo;1857108Zoosexual activity (bestiality) is officially illegal in 32 states. Zoosexual activity is a misdemeanor in the following states:[25]
    Alaska[52]
    Arkansas
    California
    Florida[53]
    Iowa
    Maryland
    Maine
    Minnesota
    Missouri
    Nebraska
    New York
    North Dakota
    Oregon
    Pennsylvania
    Utah
    Wisconsin
it's a misdemeanor in new york

guess I don't actually have to do anything
glad to see you join clam in supporting the rights of our zoosexual brethren though
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: patriotclock on September 22, 2011, 05:15:13 PM
Quote from: Slurpee;1857428this is extremely close to how it's written already:
http://www.clockcrew.cc/wiki/index.php?title=Rules




he can derail any thread he wants because it's the spam forum, not because hentai's not listed under the same category as animal torture and child porn
if you ban hentai anybody can just as easily derail with Ã,Â¥Ã,Â¥Ã,Â¥Ã,Â¥ and autoplay

initiave to ban cars: I keep standing in traffic and there's all these cars =(
[minipoll]0dabeo[/minipoll]

so according to
Quote2. No obscene material (porn, etc.)

Do not post any NWS (not work-safe) or questionable material in a public forum including gore, pornography or obscene material (hand-drawn or photos). This includes your user avatar or other site features that allow images or video to be uploaded. Obscene content must be kept in appropriate threads in the spam forum.


When I originally made the Blob thread that was NOT marked NSFW Flounder was in violation of rule 2?

Will there be any consequences for this or does he get a free pass?
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: HeinekenClock on September 22, 2011, 05:28:35 PM
I'm all for this. As far as I'm aware, any form of child porn, including drawn pictures, are illegal in the Netherlands and could potentially get me in trouble. That being said, it's disgusting and has no place here in any forum, even a forum that's basically designated for shitposting.
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: miracle fruit on September 22, 2011, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: Slurpee;1857428initiave to ban cars: I keep standing in traffic and there's all these cars =(

I keep posting in the hentai forum and there's all this hentai
oh wait

there is no hentai forum
well maybe there should be

[minipoll]kmxnbq[/minipoll]
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: HeinekenClock on September 22, 2011, 05:30:25 PM
^ I will support this idea if posting in this forum automatically results in the user being scattered for a month.
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: patriotclock on September 22, 2011, 05:31:06 PM
Quote from: MiracleFruitClock;1857459I keep posting in the hentai forum and there's all this hentai
oh wait

there is no hentai forum
well maybe there should be

[minipoll]kmxnbq[/minipoll]

voted no. theres no place for that kind of degeneracy here. this is the clock crew!
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: Slurpee on September 22, 2011, 05:39:04 PM
Quote from: PatriotClock;1857457When I originally made the Blob thread that was NOT marked NSFW Flounder was in violation of rule 2?
if you ask me? yes.
Quote from: PatriotClock;1857457Will there be any consequences for this or does he get a free pass?
maybe, if anybody wants to try (it's not my job- read the charter), but to be perfectly frank I don't think anybody involved has been arguing from good faith, and I think that that's blatantly obvious. I think it paints the whole scene in a really bad light, and I think that if anybody did pursue punishing flounderman for that infraction at this point it would be more a gesture than anything else- on the part of the upstart staff to show it means well, or on the part of an angry user to expose corruption on the part of the staff and punish those they claim to be irresponsible.

either way everybody's just trying to make each other bleed without looking bad, and I think it's really fucking pathetic.
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: AnkhClock on September 22, 2011, 05:42:53 PM
Quote from: MiracleFruitClock;1857459there is no hentai forum
well maybe there should be

[minipoll]kmxnbq[/minipoll]
Don't ghetto it up in some subforum.
 
There's no point to the hentai if you can't troll people with it.
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: miracle fruit on September 22, 2011, 05:44:32 PM
Quote from: PatriotClock;1857461voted no. theres no place for that kind of degeneracy here. this is the clock crew!

sadly the only options are keeping it locked away in a subforum, outside of the general forum index, or having it spewed everywhere in my beloved spam forum
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: SpongeClock SquarePants on September 22, 2011, 05:48:06 PM
This is the clock crew nigz : Post clocks not cocks (including drawn ones)




Plus i hate weabo jap filth on this beacon if white online sypremacy
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: HeinekenClock on September 22, 2011, 05:48:45 PM
Quote from: SpongeClock SquarePants;1857477This is the clock crew nigz : Post clocks not cocks (including drawn ones)




Plus i hate weabo jap filth on this beacon if white online sypremacy

huzzah
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: patriotclock on September 22, 2011, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: Slurpee;1857469either way everybody's just trying to make each other bleed without looking bad, and I think it's really fucking pathetic.

I WAS JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION IF I INTERPRETED WHAT YOU WERE SAYING CORRECTLY!

Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: miracle fruit on September 22, 2011, 06:39:14 PM
help im being oppressed
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: HeinekenClock on September 22, 2011, 06:50:46 PM
I'm all for Clam being less of a dick at every possible opportunity and all but I really don't see how that chill pill was called for, just saying.
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: PirateClock on September 23, 2011, 03:13:02 AM
I agree with this. Not because i think hentai is gross or wrong, cause you know its just some lines drawn by a fat asian dude. it's just very very very sad and i feel it will bring the ClockCrew down. We are supposed to be the cool guys to the Newgrounds nerd. If we start discussing anime, hentai and other sad shit here we are no better than they are.
Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: SpongeClock SquarePants on September 23, 2011, 09:14:02 AM
Quote from: PirateClock;1857843I agree with this. Not because i think hentai is gross or wrong, cause you know its just some lines drawn by a fat asian dude. it's just very very very sad and i feel it will bring the ClockCrew down. We are supposed to be the cool guys to the Newgrounds nerd. If we start discussing anime, hentai and other sad shit here we are no better than they are.


Title: Revision to Rule 2
Post by: AstronautClock on September 23, 2011, 09:49:35 AM
Quote from: PirateClock;1857843I agree with this. Not because i think hentai is gross or wrong, cause you know its just some lines drawn by a fat asian dude. it's just very very very sad and i feel it will bring the ClockCrew down. We are supposed to be the cool guys to the Newgrounds nerd. If we start discussing anime, hentai and other sad shit here we are no better than they are.

you make a good point