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http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2011/sep/22/serve-time-jailor-church-ar-2450720/
QuoteBAY MINETTE, Alabama --
Non-violent offenders in Bay Minette now have a choice some would call simple: do time behind bars or work off the sentence in church.
Operation Restore Our Community or "ROC"...begins next week. The city judge will either let misdemenor offenders work off their sentences in jail and pay a fine or go to church every Sunday for a year.
If offenders elect church, they're allowed to pick the place of worship, but must check in weekly with the pastor and the police department. If the one-year church attendance program is completed successfully, the offender's case will be dismissed.
'Merica! I expected this more from Arizona but Alabama isn't that far off.
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http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2011/sep/22/serve-time-jailor-church-ar-2450720/
'Merica! I expected this more from Arizona but Alabama isn't that far off.
Really? Alabama is the most ass-backwards state I can think of.
But yeah this is pretty fucking stupid.
$75 a day per inmate? That sounds a bit absurd. I had to serve 15 days in county prison, paying $5 a day for each day I was incarcerated. This fee easily covered the food I was served (as it all tasted like it came out of oil drum sized cans) and the beds were no more than metal bunks with gym mats thrown on top, with a sheet and a cheap itchy comforter. Keep in mind, Chester County Prison is a 5 star hotel compared to most prisons in America.
I'm glad I'm in europe
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The choice isn't a hard one to make.
I don't have a problem with this.
I love the potential of rehabilitation and relieving the financial burden of jailing minor offenders more than I hate the shortcomings of organized religion. As long as Atheists, Agnostics, and the indecisive are free to attend regular Secular Humanist or even Unitarian Universalist meetings in stead, I can't imagine that it'd be a problem. (Not that I expect that to be the case in Alabama.) I mean, anybody who thinks you have to believe in something to pay it lip service obviously was not raised Catholic, but spending 52 weeks around the pious could very well be good for many of the wayward waifs of the world.
I'd rather go to Jail.
Quote from: VuBawlsClock;1859371I'd rather go to Jail.
:this:
Quote from: VuBawlsClock;1859371I'd rather go to Jail.
No you wouldnt idiot
looks like a good idea to me, id rather not have to pay a fine and go to church than going to jail + a fine
Long as it's the choice of any house of worship I don't have a problem with it. Churches, temples, mosques, whatever you call your durka durka durka place. It's all gravy, and saves money.
Quote from: DWARFINATORclock;1859399looks like a good idea to me, id rather not have to pay a fine and go to church than going to jail + a fine
I was under the impression from the quote posted that there would be no fine if you choose the church option... I can't watch the video sadly I'm at work.
If it's the case that there's no fine for the church option, the reason I think it's a bad idea is it's pretty soft on crime, even if it's for minor offenders. I don't even know if that constitutes as a slap on the wrist, it's like a forced New Year's Resolution.
Oh I believe in god, I just really hate churches
Church sounds nicer then jail though.
I won't be doing anything to go to jail so it dosn't matter
I have no problem with this. Beats community service.
Quote from: VuBawlsClock;1859409Oh I believe in god
lol
Quote from: clammo;1859401look at me being a hard headed internet idiot i hate god and christians and religion waah waah id rather go to jail than go to church for one hour a week for a year and actually be able to have a life the other 167 hours. im hard core like that
Quote from: clammo;1859401look at me being a hard headed internet idiot i hate god and christians and religion waah waah id rather go to jail than go to church for one hour a week for a year and actually be able to have a life the other 167 hours. im hard core like that
i've been to church every sunday for a year, its awful. i'm pretty sure the whole experience made me an atheist because after that year i have no doubts about the lack of a higher power and i've never gone back since. i think i'd rather sit in a nice cell all day with my thoughts to keep me occupied than sit in a wooden pew with smelly old people from suburbs trying to one-up each other when the offering plate comes around. also church is 2 hours bub.
this is quite easy
grow long hair and wear ear buds during church
Or find a cool crazy church with awesome beliefs ( hard to find)
Keep in mind most of the people this is going to effect aren't internet super-atheists but instead dumbass gangbangers and hicks. These are the sorts of people who believe in god already but don't actually understand their religion. The church program might actually turn some of these assholes around. It's not like jail works.
If I was arrested though I would sign up for church and find one that lets me play my DS during the boring stuff.
Give them a choice: a full sentence in prison, or 1/3 length sentence in a sensory-deprovation chamber, where nutrients and oxygen are pumped in through tubes and they are suspended in a ambniocentic-like fluid, with soothing music and Confucian proverbs pumped slowly in through loud speakers in the fluid
Quote from: AbsintheClock;1859402Long as it's the choice of any house of worship I don't have a problem with it. Churches, temples, mosques, whatever you call your durka durka durka place. It's all gravy, and saves money.
That's pretty sweet. Get arrested, get to experience new cultures. I'd go see what those Krishna dudes were up to.
Quote from: PineappleClock;1859463Give them a choice: a full sentence in prison, or 1/3 length sentence in a sensory-deprovation chamber, where nutrients and oxygen are pumped in through tubes and they are suspended in a ambniocentic-like fluid, with soothing music and Confucian proverbs pumped slowly in through loud speakers in the fluid
Never mind lets do this just so I can see former gangbangers walk down the street kow-towing everyone
Jail : get fucked in the ass by Bubba
Church : get fucked in the ass by priest
Like you got a choice
Quote from: PowerGloveClock;1859426i've been to church every sunday for a year, its awful. i'm pretty sure the whole experience made me an atheist because after that year i have no doubts about the lack of a higher power and i've never gone back since. i think i'd rather sit in a nice cell all day with my thoughts to keep me occupied than sit in a wooden pew with smelly old people from suburbs trying to one-up each other when the offering plate comes around. also church is 2 hours bub.
By nice cell you must mean a 7 square foot cement box, with a shitty metal toilet, solid metal cushions and a Mexican who smells like rotting cabbage and spends the entirety of the night yelling to your neighbors in Spanish to ensure you go stir crazy before getting an hour of sleep. Then you get to spend the daytime eating raw sewage with 50 other dudes who try to one up each other by seeing who can get their penis inside each others butts first. If you get a dick in your butt you're safe for the time being, but if you resist the dick in your butt you'll probably get stabbed.
Enjoy prison.
Sincerely,
Someone who's been there. (And that was in a quality prison [by prison standards], and I only did 15 days)
What were you in for anyhow?
Quote from: AbsintheClock;1859615What were you in for anyhow?
DUI shiznits. Kinda kept it under wraps here, but I guess since I'm already posting about it may as well say.
Nobody's perfect.
Quote from: PowerGloveClock;1859426i've been to church every sunday for a year, its awful. i'm pretty sure the whole experience made me an atheist because after that year i have no doubts about the lack of a higher power and i've never gone back since. i think i'd rather sit in a nice cell all day with my thoughts to keep me occupied than sit in a wooden pew with smelly old people from suburbs trying to one-up each other when the offering plate comes around. also church is 2 hours bub.
Did you ever try being active in the celebration? I am part of the choir and I cannot tell you how much it helps to be active and singing with the mass when it comes to actually enjoying the service.
Church is pretty boring, but I since I went every week until I was 18, and it's only one hour a week (Catholic Church) I'd certainly take that over incarceration in county. Plus I already know some priests so it should be cool.
Quote from: Soup Clock;1859609dudes who try to one up each other by seeing who can get their penis inside each others butts first. If you get a dick in your butt you're safe for the time being, but if you resist the dick in your butt you'll probably get stabbed.
So did you get made a prison bitch?
I'm fucking serious, I know you all think me as super religious but no kid loves church when they're young. It's only once I started in the Choir that I actually enjoyed it and you'd be surprised how much I could actually pay attention to scripture and not just spacing out from ADD.
Quote from: AnkhClock;1859716So did you get made a prison bitch?
Well, no. Since I served such a short stint I really just spent a lot of time observing and keeping to myself. I only talked to one other guy who was serving a few months for drug charges and other than that I just minded my own business. I got to witness fights and shit, luckily never rapes, though I did hear of them. The most harassment I got from being reclusive was a couple homos would throw stones at me when we were out in the yard. They did this until a huge black guy went up and nearly kicked the shit out of them for harassing me. (I gave the big black guy my dessert every meal time [as I have sensitive teeth and they tended to drop 2 pounds of sugar into each slice of cake or whatever], so I guess this made him my big brother)
Quote from: Soup Clock;1859724Well, no. Since I served such a short stint I really just spent a lot of time observing and keeping to myself. I only talked to one other guy who was serving a few months for drug charges and other than that I just minded my own business. I got to witness fights and shit, luckily never rapes, though I did hear of them. The most harassment I got from being reclusive was a couple homos would throw stones at me when we were out in the yard. They did this until a huge black guy went up and nearly kicked the shit out of them for harassing me. (I gave the big black guy my dessert every meal time [as I have sensitive teeth and they tended to drop 2 pounds of sugar into each slice of cake or whatever], so I guess this made him my big brother)
oh man just like in the movies.
Quote from: Asshatclock;1859725oh man just like in the movies.
The SoupClock Redemption
Quote from: Soup Clock;1859724Well, no. Since I served such a short stint I really just spent a lot of time observing and keeping to myself. I only talked to one other guy who was serving a few months for drug charges and other than that I just minded my own business. I got to witness fights and shit, luckily never rapes, though I did hear of them. The most harassment I got from being reclusive was a couple homos would throw stones at me when we were out in the yard. They did this until a huge black guy went up and nearly kicked the shit out of them for harassing me. (I gave the big black guy my dessert every meal time [as I have sensitive teeth and they tended to drop 2 pounds of sugar into each slice of cake or whatever], so I guess this made him my big brother)
haha, that's pretty damn awesome to be honest.
i'm rather disappointed by this law though, nine times out of ten people are going to serve the church time rather than being in the slammer, i'm just afraid this isn't going to stop certain people from breaking the law again to begin with, more specifically first time offenders (for being caught at least). i'm curious to see if there's going to be any specific instances of a person requesting to spend time with a more uncommon religion (ie, something not christianity/catholic), and see how they react.
separation of church and state is there for a reason, and seeing it used as an alternate method of incarceration is just asking for trouble.
Do I get to eat those holy cookies or bread and drink wine? Sign me up.