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Thinking of going vegetarian for a while, anyone know of some decent recipes?

Farted by screwdriver_clock, May 28, 2009, 07:36:18 PM

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PirateClock

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LeekClock

Quote from: PirateClock;1593027Peer pressure got me into meat eating.

(assuming you're being facetious)

If you grew up in a society where eating meat was not the done thing (almost half of india for example are vegetarians of some kind), you would happily eat whatever else you were given and not see the appeal in eating meat.

PirateClock

Quote from: LeekClock;1593029If you grew up in a society where eating meat was not the done thing (almost half of india for example are vegetarians of some kind), you would happily eat whatever else you were given and not see the appeal in eating meat.

True but i would also drink from the same river we dump our dead in and live in a house made out of corrugated sheets.

Also i was joking obviously! I got into meat eating cause im Dutch and Dutch kitchen law states that every meal should have meat and potatoes. What you are suggesting is high treason mister.
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LeekClock

Yeah tradition's great but it's not so hot when it contravene's human progress. Some traditions die out when revelations are made in history (such as straight marriage only...).

Hopefully this is just one of those things that future generations will look back on and think "what a barbaric age, how could they not see the false logic?". Such as any civilized person now reacts to their grandparents' homophobia, for example. Or how we think of slavery.

(Here i'm comparing merely the phenomenon of human progress, not the ethics involved in the above two examples in relation to vegetarianism).

LeekClock

I appreciate I sound like a pretentious asswipe and I'm not saying anything you want to hear. There's no room for it. But you misunderstood my intention with my talk of "barbarism":

I'm not saying you're a barbarian. I'm saying future generations may well see ours as barbaric. There are many things I do now that will probably be considered barbaric in the future. My expression of the hope that people will consider meat-eating barbaric in the future was merely an expression of hope for change.

Nor do I go around telling people to "wake up!". I am more socially competent than that. That particular scenario was just an example of how frustrating it is now, to see my own hypocrisy, and to know that I cannot criticize it given my understanding of culture.

But it is about values and it is ethical: Eating a veggie diet reduces one's carbon footprint remarkably in comparison to eating a meat-based diet. Even if you don't see eye-to-eye on the appreciation of animals you can appreciate that.

LeekClock

Sorry if I got overexcited. To clarify: I think you're right, in the present probably the best way forward is to promote the eating of less meat, rather than cutting it out entirely (for whatever reasons).

My reasons for becoming vegetarian were primarily selfish: It's healthier for me and more interesting. Economical, environmental and ethical reasons were secondary but undoubtedly now go towards validating my lifestyle, more and more each day; I am constantly confronted with reasons to ponder meat-eating, whereas meat-eaters are relatively infrequently met with opposition to their lifestyle. I cannot help but see these secondary reasons as becoming more and more important, the less I am attached to meat, but I still primarily encourage vegetarianism for health reasons. For other people, these reasons are configured in a different order of importance.

I would like to say "let people eat whatever they want", but I think that would be equal with apathy (rather than latitudinarianism) given that I am aware of the benefits of eating well.

If i'm smug it's because I think I'm on to something that's good for me, and it's easier than I had imagined it could be. I'm excited that other people should do it, and consternated that prejudices and stubbornness result in people eating themselves into early graves.

 Meat-eating, in my experience, is connected  to a general ignorance towards the way we eat in general (not exclusively of course; you can eat meat and be healthy). I grew up eating whatever I wanted, not understanding the basic science of what I was consuming, and I was very unhealthy as a result. I think this is the case for a lot of people, and for me vegetarianism is thus also an exercise in understanding food and raising my own consciousness as to what i'm consuming in general.
 
But I also know, having first simply reduced my meat-consumption, that it's then not a big step to do away with it altogether.

AbsintheClock

I would like to say for the record men who do not eat steak are not really men. Especially the ones that do yoga and practice tantric sex by jerking off for hours on end.

Furthermore I would like to let everyone know that the cuter an animal is the tastier it is. It's even better when you kill it yourself. Also veal saltambocca is the most delicious thing I have ever sunk my teeth into. I do not recommend eating crustaceans because they are the kings of the earth. However I do recommend New England clam chowder. The red is shit.

Also anyone who can't appreciate the sheer joy of sinking their teeth into dead animal parts has simply forgotten to live all together. It goes along with things like firearms, class B fireworks, and a rolled joint behind the ear.

LeekClock

I'd eat in-vitro meat (after sufficient testing and perfection). Or at least, i'd try it. It might not really hold much appeal to me by the time it's around!