So it turns out the Wii, 3DS, Super Mario 3D land and Zelda are all selling really well this year...

[Kodiakclock]

nuts & bolts was cool, rigor mortis hasn't set in completely

also i think the wii has sold really well every year of it's life

Nuts and bolts wasnt made by the orignal rare guys im p sure. im talking the very first generation of rare developers so basically everything after the n64 isnt original rare.

[patriotclock]

achievements ruined gaming

disagree completely

[miracle fruit]

achievements are stupid and meaningless
and they are pretty much only exclusive to xbox anyway

there is the sony equivalent called trophies. youve probably never heard of them because nobody who plays on the ps3 gives a shit about them

mostly because we're not children

[FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK]

Achievements dont unlock anything in the game I dont see what the point is. In Brawl when you get their equivalent of an achievement you get a new stage or music track or something. What do you get when you get an achievement on halo. Another merit badge on your e-penis?

[AmberArachnidClock]

gaming isn't dead by a long shot, it just tends to be more consumer-whorey than it used to be

[WiiClock]

that's why i switched to pc gaming and only pay for the games i actually play