Diablo 3

[buttplug]

I love how we don't get offline mode for both SC2 and Diablo 3. It's fucking dirty.

[Kombucha]

New Diablo antagonist: The Lord of Persistent Online Authentication

[Thor]

This is the downside of having to log in to play single player mode.

But on the other hand, you have the advantage of... um...

[PolyhedronClock]

the ironic part is that the persistent pirates will still find a way to crack it to run offline, where as people that actually want to play the game in an offline environment (or faulty servers) get fucked.

drm is a blight.

[NintendrCkolc]

played for about 3 hours. Took me about a half an hour to finally log in. I got shit to do tomorrow so I can't be pulling an all nighter. Got to level 12, killed leoric and discovered the source of the meteor.. Bed time I suppose. it's 6am.

Can't wait to play tomorrow though.

[RobClock]

Shouldn't have preordered at walmart. Just got the game 10 minutes ago, and am installing presently. Called off school.

This is going to be a great day.

[CelticKnotClock]

Playing right now, Witch Doctor is slick.

I'm actually glad they're running it online for a couple reasons.

Firstly, it means that via client-server, my computer doesn't have to do so much legwork, so I get decent performance as a result.

Secondly, since they've got the auction house going, having the item generation and stuff on a remote server helps to keep things legitimate, and I'm glad they're trying to take steps towar

[SoBe Clock]

the ironic part is that the persistent pirates will still find a way to crack it to run offline, where as people that actually want to play the game in an offline environment (or faulty servers) get fucked.

drm is a blight.

As far as I know this actually shouldn't be much of an issue for D3 on blizzard's end. Not much of the game is actually generated on your computer. The campaign levels and many other parts of the game are actually generated on battle.net. So it's not like Ubisoft's always-on drm that just ran authentication checks constantly, much of the game itself is server-side. Hackers would have to emulate battle.net and everything bnet does that is D3 related, rather than just making a work around for battle.net logins.

[buttplug]

Playing right now, Witch Doctor is slick.

I'm actually glad they're running it online for a couple reasons.

Firstly, it means that via client-server, my computer doesn't have to do so much legwork, so I get decent performance as a result.

Secondly, since they've got the auction house going, having the item generation and stuff on a remote server helps to keep things legitimate, and I'm glad they're trying to take steps towar

There is no reason they couldn't do this while still having an offline SP is there?

[CelticKnotClock]

With the extra time it would take to somehow bar any offline content from getting used online (to prevent hacked items, characters, dupes, achievements), I'm not sure it would have been worth the effort for launch day.

The problem is, offline mode would be an entirely different code base, or would have to expose the server programming on your computer, which would cause massive security issues, and could easily negatively affect the online portion of the game.

I'd love to see it for people who'd like it, but I'm not sure it'll happen.

[Thor]

No matter how you try to justify it CelticKnot (that's a cool clock name btw), it's still just bad DRM. DRM that is obtrusive to gameplay and make it more difficult for normal customers to access their legally purchased product or bock them from using it entirely is the worst kind. And that's exactly what Diablo 3 has. There's no good reason they couldn't have had an offline single player mode.

Also saying "they can't have everything client side or they could bypass the drm" is a dumb argument because it's like saying "they can't remove their bad DRM or their bad DRM wouldn't work".

In the words of Gabe Newell, "Piracy is almost always a service problem". And this game provides shit service. WHEN a crack for the game comes out (and it will happen. There have been plenty of supposedly unpiratable games before this one) it will undoubtedly be a superior product.

[miracle fruit]

ok um who the fuck played diablo 2 singleplayer to begin with

some friendless faggots??????

[Thor]

ok um who the fuck played diablo 2 singleplayer to begin with

some friendless faggots??????

It was literally impossible to play some builds online. For example a necromancer specializing in summoning could easily crash a server when the game came out.

Plus some people have bad internet connections because of the area they live in.

[buttplug]

I'm about halfway through act 1 I think. Chose to play the monk. It looks like characters do AoE damage with almost all their skills/spells.

ok um who the fuck played diablo 2 singleplayer to begin with

some friendless faggots??????

Well, first of all sometimes I wanted to play D2 but simply didn't have online access.

Secondly, there are many mods that basically overhaul the game, but they are difficult to get working on multiplayer LAN.

[miracle fruit]

those arent good enough reasons for me or blizzard to give a shit

[buttplug]

those arent good enough reasons for me or blizzard to give a shit

Well we aren't really trying to convince you, and you can't speak for a multinational corporation.

[miracle fruit]

well i can

[NintendrCkolc]

No matter how you try to justify it CelticKnot (that's a cool clock name btw), it's still just bad DRM. DRM that is obtrusive to gameplay and make it more difficult for normal customers to access their legally purchased product or bock them from using it entirely is the worst kind. And that's exactly what Diablo 3 has. There's no good reason they couldn't have had an offline single player mode.

It's working fine now. No problems on my end.

They did the same thing for SC2 and look how SC2 has turned out. Ever hear anybody complain SC2 is online only? No.

[Thor]

It's working fine now. No problems on my end.

They did the same thing for SC2 and look how SC2 has turned out. Ever hear anybody complain SC2 is online only? No.

I've personally had problems with online only games. Specifically, games for windows live games. Granted that's pretty much the worst DRM ever made, second only to Origin.

I have been hearing about a lot of people having trouble connecting to the servers immediately after launch due to heavy load, but that will be a thing of the past soon. My biggest problem with "always online" games is that when my internet crashes because comcast is the only company available out where I live I'm shit out of luck and can't play it. And seriously, there i no good reason to have it other than a futile effort to stem piracy. Do people really think that during a 6 year develoment cycle Blizzard didn't have time to make an option for offline single player with no auction house? seriously?

[NintendrCkolc]

I've personally had problems with online only games. Specifically, games for windows live games. Granted that's pretty much the worst DRM ever made, second only to Origin.

I have been hearing about a lot of people having trouble connecting to the servers immediately after launch due to heavy load, but that will be a thing of the past soon. My biggest problem with "always online" games is that when my internet crashes because comcast is the only company available out where I live I'm shit out of luck and can't play it. And seriously, there i no good reason to have it other than a futile effort to stem piracy. Do people really think that during a 6 year develoment cycle Blizzard didn't have time to make an option for offline single player with no auction house? seriously?

so you're actually going to play it then? I thought you were all over PoE?

Btw, you stuck up for GFWL in the Dark Soul's pc thread.

I hate you.