DotA 2 & League of Legends

[Thor]

You think Dota 2 is going to get over 12 million active players in a month?  

The "active player" numbers that League of Legends reports are highly inflated. They do not have nearly that many players in reality. A huge swath of the player base have multiple accounts so they can twink and just generally pubstomp, as well as extra accounts for when they get banned. I think a more accurate figure would be somewhere in the hundreds of thousands. I have never been able to find a "currently online" statistic for LoL and I think that is intentional on their part because they prefer to use the misleading data based on number of accounts that have logged in within a month.

I would also like to point out that right now DotA 2 is the most played game on all of steam to spite still being in beta. There are only about 70,000 today though so it's still much less than LoL.

[buttplug]

I would also like to point out that right now DotA 2 is the most played game on all of steam to spite still being in beta. There are only about 70,000 today though so it's still much less than LoL.

And it still hasn't even gone free to play yet

[SoBe Clock]

The "active player" numbers that League of Legends reports are highly inflated. They do not have nearly that many players in reality. A huge swath of the player base have multiple accounts so they can twink and just generally pubstomp, as well as extra accounts for when they get banned. I think a more accurate figure would be somewhere in the hundreds of thousands. I have never been able to find a "currently online" statistic for LoL and I think that is intentional on their part because they prefer to use the misleading data based on number of accounts that have logged in within a month.

Actually no the 12 million active players stat is the correct one. There are over 33 million accounts for the game with 12 million unique players monthly. There are still waaaay more accounts than players, but an absolute ton of players. They posted actual numbers last november and they have gone up since then. These were the numbers.

I mean criticize the game all you want but its absolutely massive popularity is pretty undeniable. Those that actively play the game and do stuff like browse the LoL subreddit or follow the tournament scene can tell you that these numbers seem pretty spot on, the game definitely has a larger following than most PC games, even the super popular ones.

[Thor]

Actually no the 12 million active players stat is the correct one. There are over 33 million accounts for the game with 12 million unique players monthly. There are still waaaay more accounts than players, but an absolute ton of players. They posted actual numbers last november and they have gone up since then. These were the numbers.

I mean criticize the game all you want but its absolutely massive popularity is pretty undeniable. Those that actively play the game and do stuff like browse the LoL subreddit or follow the tournament scene can tell you that these numbers seem pretty spot on, the game definitely has a larger following than most PC games, even the super popular ones.

Why did you say 12 million unique when the image you just posted said 1,300,000 was the peak simultaneous players? There's no way that riot could know who is a unique player and who is a twink owned by somebody with a dynamic IP. 1.3 million is more than I expected, but the figures that Riot advertise are still grossly inflated.


EDIT: Has tutorial/training mode/whatever it's called been added to DotA2 yet? Also where's a good site to look up suggested build order and item purchase order for heroes?

[SoBe Clock]

Why did you say 12 million unique when the image you just posted said 1,300,000 was the peak simultaneous players? There's no way that riot could know who is a unique player and who is a twink owned by somebody with a dynamic IP. 1.3 million is more than I expected, but the figures that Riot advertise are still grossly inflated.

Dynamic IP's aside, a game's max concurrent user record is never anywhere the size of its total player count. This is simply because for games in general, and especially one that's as popular worldwide as this is, there's never a time when anywhere near the whole userbase is on at once. Even if dynamic IP's would impact the player count so that it would be noticeably lower, there's still millions of players, not your figure of "hundreds of thousands."

Again, I'm all for talking about the game itself but all you're doing is undermining the game's active userbase and I'm not sure why that's the subject of debate. If you don't like using unique player numbers than just use the concurrent user counts. 1.3 mil is a hell of a lot bigger than ~70k.

[Thor]

The reason why I'm talking about user counts is because I said that DotA2 would overtake LoL once it became free to play. That's what this whole conversation so far was about since before I even split it into a new thread

[KelpClock]

league of legends:
- no fun allowed
- must follow meta or be banned
- all the heroes in this game are the same boring shit fuck you
- bad art style
- the barracks respawn
- free blink for everyone
- runes
- easy mode always on

dota 2:
- fun and rewarding
- builds can change on the fly
- turning around matches is fun
- cool unique art style
- so much detail, every hero has so much voice acting
- spells are sastifying and fun to use
- heroes are 100x more interesting
- fair f2p system

[NintendrCkolc]

league of legends:
- no fun allowed
- must follow meta or be banned
- all the heroes in this game are the same boring shit fuck you
- bad art style
- the barracks respawn
- free blink for everyone
- runes
- easy mode always on

dota 2:
- fun and rewarding
- builds can change on the fly
- turning around matches is fun
- cool unique art style
- so much detail, every hero has so much voice acting
- spells are sastifying and fun to use
- heroes are 100x more interesting
- fair f2p system

this was an intelligent post.

[SoBe Clock]

league of legends:
- no fun allowed
- must follow meta or be banned
- all the heroes in this game are the same boring shit fuck you
- bad art style
- the barracks respawn
- free blink for everyone
- runes
- easy mode always on

dota 2:
- fun and rewarding
- builds can change on the fly
- turning around matches is fun
- cool unique art style
- so much detail, every hero has so much voice acting
- spells are sastifying and fun to use
- heroes are 100x more interesting
- fair f2p system

Oh no how can I ever enjoy league again after reading this

[buttplug]

I forgot how annoying kelp was

He was one of those that started out ok then suddenly turned shit for some reason

[KelpClock]

I forgot how annoying kelp was

He was one of those that started out ok then suddenly turned shit for some reason

WOAH man i just love me some dota 2 and i noticed you like it too (i know where your sig is from ;-))

[DWARFINATORclock]

oh noooooooooooooooo



this was aram btw

[Corporal Clock]

dota 2:
- cool unique art style

this is funny because it's a copy of warcraft 3 with fancy effects

everything else you said was wrong too but who cares

[buttplug]

this is funny because it's a copy of warcraft 3 with fancy effects

everything else you said was wrong too but who cares

ok now I'm sure you want to just hate on moba games for some weird personal reason

[Corporal Clock]

by saying his statements re: league and dota2 are wrong?

i mean it's true either way, they're both warcraft clones artistically and calling either unique is a lie

[patriotclock]

ive been owning with my jurassic cho skin as of late. if anyone wants to duel add me

[patriotclock]

streaming league atm

http://www.twitch.tv/jeffgoodt

[buttplug]

If anyone wants in to DotA2 I got free passes.

[Chalk Clock]

If anyone wants in to DotA2 I got free passes.

yes please

[Thor]

I also have a free dota 2 pass up for grabs. First person to message me on steam gets it.