trade in newgrounds for youtube

[SilverClock]

I'd kinda rather see the CC die than have the 11 year old shit hole that Youtube calls a fanbase dilute it into garbage.

[BoltClock]

My canceled Clock Day 2012 submission was going to be a YouTube parody.

Oh well.

[AstronautClock]

I'd kinda rather see the CC die than have the 11 year old shit hole that Youtube calls a fanbase dilute it into garbage.

11 year olds are pure innocent souls that we can mold into perfection

[TropicanaClock]

youtube is really a no brainer, leek clock was already ahead of the game in 2006.

Our biggest strength is our numbers, and mass voting. We could double our audience by just submitting to both sites.  Another aspect about youtube is that it doesn't just centralize around animation. Stop Motion, Video editing, whatever you can come up with. Meanwhile we're all liking each others submissions. what if everything you made have at least 7 likes from the clockcrew, thats not too shabby.

Youtube would also be great place to troll. Infact videos can get biews just by users beefing it out in the comments.

I encourage ya'll to get youtubin

[BilliardBall10]

I do get exactly what you're saying. I'm being a wiseass.

I have always thought that developing Clocks and The Crew and Clocktopia into a product that could be digested by the masses was something I'd love to see (the notion was the inspiration for the latest PTF, tho the story took a weird turn.)

It's definitely something that could be done. There is plenty of talent here.

and thats the reason why we have to keep fighting for the cc.
even if that means submitting vids to youtube. but it will be very hard to get known.

but we can post dicks on youtube. As long as it's ART.
this video is prime example of youtube art. I think were in the clear.]

WHAT THE HELL? how did this pass?
also, i love the smiling guy's expression at the middle-to the end of the video.

really? because when koala uploaded gangsta gangsta on the cc account they deleted it and if thats not ART than idk what is

can you link me to koala's gangsta gangsta movie, plz?

ng has a lot less restrictions than youtube when it comes to content. we cant post dicks and stuff to youtube

yes, thats true, but we can HINT about dicks. think about it.

also sometimes if you use certain music the copyright owner can have all the sound turned off in your vid. thats annoying too

i hate that too! they dont let you to use any cool music.

I'd kinda rather see the CC die than have the 11 year old shit hole that Youtube calls a fanbase dilute it into garbage.

yes, but we want the clock crew to live on for more than 10 years, so, if we want to survive, we have to evolve.

My canceled Clock Day 2012 submission was going to be a YouTube parody.

Oh well.

hey bolt-clock, can you link me to your cancelled clcok-day 12 submission? i wanna watch it, thanks

11 year olds are pure innocent souls that we can mold into perfection

THAT'S the reason im not giving up on the youtube idea completely.
lets recruit new members.

youtube is really a no brainer, leek clock was already ahead of the game in 2006.

Our biggest strength is our numbers, and mass voting. We could double our audience by just submitting to both sites.  Another aspect about youtube is that it doesn't just centralize around animation. Stop Motion, Video editing, whatever you can come up with. Meanwhile we're all liking each others submissions. what if everything you made have at least 7 likes from the clockcrew, thats not too shabby.

Youtube would also be great place to troll. Infact videos can get biews just by users beefing it out in the comments.

I encourage ya'll to get youtubin

also, that is a good reason to be at youtube: easy trolling material, and a good userbase to recruit.
we should give this a go.
great argument tropicana, you rock!

[PolyhedronClock]

If you submit to Newgrounds, you're going to at the very least have a few hundred views on it.  There's so many videos on youtube that only have one or two views.

However as far as "internet popularity" is going, you have a better shot at that on Youtube than on Newgrounds.

I think alot of it has to do with our origins as well. Back when the CC was just starting, a large deal of our identity came from people getting upset at clock movies, which in turn gave us a ton of publicity, and fed into the machine that we are today.

Where as with Youtube, it's really, REALLY big. It's probably near impossible to rally against any sort of community there, because the majority of it are just bored people watching random videos. Approaching it with a spammy approach wouldn't really accomplish anything, because people don't get upset over it.

 I'm not saying I'm against the idea, but we'd have to rally our quality into a central channel *cough*, as well as establish some sort of olive branch to YouTube, which is a mighty big commitment. We've already done this to a minor extent, but there's still a lot of work that would have to be done for a more heavier transition to Youtube.

[VCRClock]

It's probably near impossible to rally against any sort of community there, because the majority of it are just bored people watching random videos. Approaching it with a spammy approach wouldn't really accomplish anything, because people don't get upset over it.

Fucking with people on Newgrounds is as easy as making movies, which puts our chunks in the stream of crap Newgrounds users slog through daily. If they're wading in the stream, we'll hit them eventually.
Fortunately, YouTube likes streams of content, too. Not having a Portal, or single stream, of new content on YouTube just means that there are any number of streams going at the same time. Thus:

Clock Crew should just be trolling idiot youtube stars and making video responses to anime etc.

Fucking around with the same audience(s) repeatedly on YouTube, despite our small number, just means picking targets who have lots of subscribers, and injecting our crap into their streams. This would probably mean video responses, and being completely insufferable in the comments en masse, in the hours/days following the target releasing a new video. So what I'm saying is basically we gotta be the Westboro Baptist Church

[miracle fruit]

I'd kinda rather see the CC die than have the 11 year old shit hole that Youtube calls a fanbase dilute it into garbage.

youre delusional if you think the ngbbs is any better than the yt community

[Coolboyman]

Fucking around with the same audience(s) repeatedly on YouTube, despite our small number, just means picking targets who have lots of subscribers, and injecting our crap into their streams. This would probably mean video responses, and being completely insufferable in the comments en masse, in the hours/days following the target releasing a new video. So what I'm saying is basically we gotta be the Westboro Baptist Church

That's not how Clocks should -ahem- "troll".  I never picked targets as SBC (unless they would leave thousands of reviews on Clock flashses saying "I blammed this" like ki10 did).  I just made whatever and waited for everybody to come to me.  

You don't go around seeking flamers, you wait for the flamers to come to you.  If someone doesn't have a problem with us, we shouldn't have a problem with them.

Actively going to other people for for negative attention just seems sad and desperate.

[Slurpee]

That's not how Clocks should -ahem- "troll".  I never picked targets as SBC (unless they would leave thousands of reviews on Clock flashses saying "I blammed this" like ki10 did).  I just made whatever and waited for everybody to come to me.  

You don't go around seeking flamers, you wait for the flamers to come to you.  If someone doesn't have a problem with us, we shouldn't have a problem with them.

Actively going to other people for for negative attention just seems sad and desperate.

Well said.

[BilliardBall10]

youre delusional if you think the ngbbs is any better than the yt community

while i tend to think that newgrounds, and youtube are two different universes, i agree with you.
defeatism won't bring us anything.
if survival of the CC means, going also into youtube, then so be it!

Fucking around with the same audience(s) repeatedly on YouTube, despite our small number, just means picking targets who have lots of subscribers, and injecting our crap into their streams. This would probably mean video responses, and being completely insufferable in the comments en masse, in the hours/days following the target releasing a new video. So what I'm saying is basically we gotta be the Westboro Baptist Church

that would be a good strategy, but only if we dont piss off the wrong audience, or if we dont cause the mods to ban us.

That's not how Clocks should -ahem- "troll".  I never picked targets as SBC (unless they would leave thousands of reviews on Clock flashses saying "I blammed this" like ki10 did).  I just made whatever and waited for everybody to come to me.  

You don't go around seeking flamers, you wait for the flamers to come to you.  If someone doesn't have a problem with us, we shouldn't have a problem with them.

Actively going to other people for for negative attention just seems sad and desperate.

that's a great input, strawberry clock!
tho, i must ask you, what should we do?
should we go and search for recruits? i suggested long ago, that we should search for recruits in albinoblacksheep.com, kongregade.com, stickpage.com, madnesscombatforums.com, bandcamp and to go in many other flash sites, in order to renew our depletting numbers.

an other solution would be to lure people with the promise of video game parody flashes, that actually are cleverly disguised clock flashes, leading them to join our site. many will leave, but few will stay with us, if they have the right set of eyes (and mind) for the cc.

[BilliardBall10]

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[Coolboyman]

should we go and search for recruits? i suggested long ago, that we should search for recruits in albinoblacksheep.com, kongregade.com, stickpage.com, madnesscombatforums.com, bandcamp and to go in many other flash sites, in order to renew our depletting numbers..

If people are interested in becoming a clock, they'll be a clock.  I'd rather be happy with the size we have right now than just getting random people just so we can increase the size.

[BilliardBall10]

If people are interested in becoming a clock, they'll be a clock.  I'd rather be happy with the size we have right now than just getting random people just so we can increase the size.

yes, but now we're at a very low standpoint, and i think making recruitment flashes or advertising our flashes to other flash sites, would be a good idea, since for example camp north.com, is almost liek newgrounds, minus the cool features.
but it has the perfect userbase for us: animators, and flash artisans.

and that's what we need. (and also good people that would raise the morale)

[Fax Clock]

ONLY VIRAL videos, and real-people movies get alot of views and fame in youtube. not animations. not even good ones.

What about all that asdfmovies stuff? And that's just one example of many on YT.

[AMPM]

I think it's a good idea to hit up on YouTube. It's not something that you have to necessarily "trade-in" you can simply post on it as well. If we feel inspired to submit there, I don't think there's anymore incentive needed than that. But the thing is, I don't think that being funny is important, I don't think being trolls are important, I don't think being fuckin' accordant or congruent in the vision of what we would do on YouTube is important (cause that shit will never happen anyway, imho) and I may be a new member, for all you know, but I think the youtube thing is a really good idea, and the most important thing is to complete whatever idea you have for a flash, and to get it out there, that's ALL that's important.

Completion, and submission. I see that as a great idea.

[VuBawlsClock]

Litterly, dicks.
[video=youtube;nE_wbO45FYE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE_wbO45FYE[/video]

[BilliardBall10]

What about all that asdfmovies stuff? And that's just one example of many on YT.

well, that case is the exception.
but, in most cases of animations/cartoons in youtube, the views are either very few, or significantly smaller than those of a viral video. (like, an animation could get at best, a 800,000 views, while a viral video could get 10M views.)

I think it's a good idea to hit up on YouTube. It's not something that you have to necessarily "trade-in" you can simply post on it as well. If we feel inspired to submit there, I don't think there's anymore incentive needed than that. But the thing is, I don't think that being funny is important, I don't think being trolls are important, I don't think being fuckin' accordant or congruent in the vision of what we would do on YouTube is important (cause that shit will never happen anyway, imho) and I may be a new member, for all you know, but I think the youtube thing is a really good idea, and the most important thing is to complete whatever idea you have for a flash, and to get it out there, that's ALL that's important.

Completion, and submission. I see that as a great idea.

this is a great post right here.

good job, snail. you have the right spirit.

[Schmellements Clawk]

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[InkwellClock]

That's some creepy shiat!