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Farted by SirClock, July 07, 2008, 10:20:54 PM

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SirClock

So I want to do a little experiment.

I want to tell you all about yourselves, I want to tell you some truths I know about the natures of reality and I want you all to really examine these ideas and compare them to your own perceptions and theories and faiths.

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The truth about you, is that you are actually the only thing there is.

All that is around you, your friends your family your garden your life... are all pieces of the fabric of reality that you constructed to hide from the terrifying truth: That you are and always have been God.

Your entire life and this entire existance is just a story played out throughout all eternity. The role of God is lonely and frightening. The soul being of the universe has no one to talk to.

In this reality we are frozen within a fractal of ourselves. A fractal is a shape within a self similar shape, within a self similar shape, within a self similar shape... this is the nature of all things in our existence. And what things found in this nature don't follow this pattern? Everything does from the most simple to the most infinitely complex aspects of our existence.

The Big Bang started with two opposites, matter and anti-matter colliding with eachother and forming a vibration that is the most fundamental to our existance. Two opposites and the wavelength that pulses between them. This is the pattern from which all things are made and which all things abide by. Even our own consciousnesses follow this pattern. We are good and evil, we have to be. That is how we are, that is what we are. One thing cannot exist without the other.

Everything, is simply just energy condensed to a slow vibration. So slow to us, most of us aren't aware of the vibration at all. We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively like pieces of a puzzle that exist unaware of the full picture. We are the imagination of ourselves.

In conclusion this brings some extremely frightening and joyful concepts into play. Joyful in that all things are literally connected through time and have the same orgin. Frightening in that we are helplessly trapped within ourselves (at least in this existance as humans) and are destined and doomed to repeat along the same basic wavelength for all eternity, between black and white, good and bad. We seek more to our existance and fortunately we have an infinity to look to, however in a fundamental sense there is nothing more. This is good and bad, happy and sad, the nature of all reality aka: You.
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So as I know your all probably assuming, yes, some of these bits of knowledge have come to me in the midsts of psychedelic experimentation. However this is only because sometimes psychedelics allow you to partially leave your body, but by no means are they the only ways to do this, and not in the least the safest. This process of leaving your body has become known as Ego-Loss and allows you to slip slightly from the restrictions of time and see existance for how it really is: infinite  interconnected fractal patterns that become you.

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So is this all just insanity? Gibberish of a acid frenzy perhaps? What do you think... is it really
that crazy?

 Modern mathematics and physics wouldn't say so, as Einsteins theory of relativity, string theory and even the new theories of parallel universes completley coincide and agree sometimes chillingly all to well with my theories, and my experiences within the collective consciousness.

Not to mention relegion. The bible says we were made in Gods image. That doesn't imply that god is a man with two eyes ears and a asshole. It means that we
are Gods image. We are Gods ourselves and an infinite amount of realities exist within ourselves as it does without ourselves.

It brings God, Math, Science and philosophy into one perfect unexplainable existence. How is all of this possible? Why are we this way? And why are we fundamentally all alone?
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Marlin Clock

No offense, but I've always thought ideals like this to be very pseudointellectual and arrogant.

Il Duce

I think I've thought of the possibility of having one (one meaning me in that case) as the only being in the universe and everything else is just a lucid construction of the being's mind.

SirClock

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So is this all just insanity? Gibberish of a acid frenzy perhaps? What do you think... is it really that crazy?

Modern mathematics and physics wouldn't say so, as Einsteins theory of relativity, string theory and even the new theories of parallel universes completley coincide and agree sometimes chillingly all to well with my theories, and my experiences within the collective consciousness.

Not to mention relegion. The bible says we were made in Gods image. That doesn't imply that god is a man with two eyes ears and a asshole. It means that we are Gods image. We are Gods ourselves and an infinite amount of realities exist within ourselves as it does without ourselves.

It brings God, Math, Science and philosophy into one perfect unexplainable existence. How is all of this possible? Why are we this way? And why are we fundamentally all alone?
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Quote from: Marlix Wright;1357386No offense, but I've always thought ideals like this to be very pseudointellectual and arrogant.
I want more from you guys, this is a discussion forum. Explain. How is it arrogant?

Quote from: Bill Nye;1357388I think I've thought of the possibility of having one (one meaning me in that case) as the only being in the universe and everything else is just a lucid construction of the being's mind.
Elaborate.

RomanClock

You believe you exist and I believe I exist. How do we fabricate each other?
Doesn't this mean you already know everything?
How did we fabricate it if we brought it into existence?
How did we decide this would be our existence?
I think this "theory" is wrong. Id have to say its pretty egotistical and self centered.
lemayo lol :soups:

AbsintheClock

It's a silly parlor trick that works on the same level as a horoscope. Watch even I can write horoscopes.

Aquarius:

You're going to have a pretty rough week. Be sure to keep your head down, and mind your manners. If you also manage to run the errands you are supposed to do you will find that there is a much greater reward to be had. Romance is bad. If you are single don't look for love but rather let it come to you. If you are married then mind your spouse's space.

BAM!

SirClock

Quote from: RomanClock;1357404You believe you exist and I believe I exist. How do we fabricate each other?
Doesn't this mean you already know everything?
How did we fabricate it if we brought it into existence?
How did we decide this would be our existence?
I think this "theory" is wrong. Id have to say its pretty egotistical and self centered.
You guys are totally misinterpretting it. How could it possibly be egotistical if I'm saying there is really no such thing as ego.

How is it self centered when I'm saying we're not essentially different people, we're all one.

How is it egotistical to say, not just some things are living everything is living.

We don't know everything because we don't exist as everything. But we did at one point in time (literally. this is from einstein's theories and the big bang). Thats another frightening aspect of this whole thing. Time. We're progressing into more and more complication. The shards we exist as are growing smaller and smaller. Progression is speeding up. This trend is viewable in every way, even just global population.

The big bang theory says life came from the energies and chemical reactions that took place as clouds of gases became stars that became worlds that became water and plants. Isn't it obvious eventually humanity spun off of this chain of events that continued into such amazing complexity that self awareness itself became possible?

Quote from: AbsintheClock;1357409It's a silly parlor trick that works on the same level as a horoscope. Watch even I can write horoscopes.
I don't get it?

I made an image to maybe better help some of you understand the nature of time. Lets stop using time as a unit of measurement of something that isn't real, and instead look at it as a measurement along a wavelength between simplicity and complexity.


AbsintheClock

I still say it's a bunk of modern day mysticism. An American rape of eastern philosophy.

Kombucha

I was standing on top of the toilet, hanging a clock, when I slipped and bumped my head on the sink, knocking myself out. When I came to, I had a vision... a vision of the synthesis of God, Math, Science, and Philosophy.

SirClock

Quote from: AbsintheClock;1357418I still say it's a bunk of modern day mysticism. An American rape of eastern philosophy.
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This is all based off of what we see and know throughout history throughout the universe. I don't see how you can possibly label that as mysticism. And this isn't a fucking rape of eastern philosophy, eastern philosophy should totally coincide with these ideas. And yea, comparing this to  horoscope bullshit does offend me. You can be more intellegent in your dismissive response.

This is something very important and personal to me not because I just thought it up but because I've experienced it first hand. And that may sound egotistical but this isn't my theory, its everyones theory. Many others have rationed and experienced the same things I have, and many philosophers (as you so kindly suggested) throughout history have formulated similar ideas. thats the point. Only this theory should be much more open and actually tie all these theories and mathematical discoveries together.


For those of you so quick to deny this theory of existance, perhaps you could enlighten us of your own? And if you don't have one perhaps you could explain why that is?

Also, nobody should be acting like I'm trying to convert people. I'm trying to pry your minds to new ideas. Think for yourself. Thats how the pattern goes.

PaperClipClock

Quote from: Kombucha;1357422I was standing on top of the toilet, hanging a clock, when I slipped and bumped my head on the sink, knocking myself out. When I came to, I had a vision... a vision of the flux capacitor! The device that makes time travel possible!

fixed

Kombucha

Quote from: PaperClipClock;1357436fixed
Yeah that's the joke hdsffdsfd. :(

TapedeckClock

thanks for posting this SirClock.

just a question though, since us humans (or as referred to as gods)
are stuck in an infinite  void would that be the same for animals?
would they be alone in this to?
WWWWWWWWWW

NintendrCkolc

Very interesting point of view sir clock. I think it is certainly a plausible theory as to the great question of "Why are we here". However, I dont think anyone will ever truly know and being as such, You must have some damn good shit. What triggered this way of thinking? Acid I presume?


I gotta get some of that.

RomanClock

I'm guessing this has to do with drugs in some subtle way.
lemayo lol :soups:

TapedeckClock

Quote from: RomanClock;1357467I'm guessing this has to do with drugs in some subtle way.

read the last 5 posts then we'll talk
WWWWWWWWWW

SirClock

Quote from: OctopusClock;1357461just a question though, since us humans (or as referred to as gods)
are stuck in an infinite  void would that be the same for animals?
would they be alone in this to?
Yes, animals are no different from us they're just behind us on the wavelength of progression. Its interesting because its been proven that time is different in different parts of the universe (slower around black holes and such). Maybe time is slower for animals? Unfortunately I don't think this planet will survive anywhere near long enough to let any of the animals catch up to our intelligence level.

Quote from: STEPHEN COLBERT;1357465What triggered this way of thinking? Acid I presume?
Partially. LSD probably the most educational drug there is, because literally what it does is just takes down the filters in the brain and what starts to happen in high dosages is you actually go inside your head. Sort of like dreaming you can explain the parts of your brain as if they were actual "places". However because of this LSD makes alot happen, not necessarily relevant to deep thinking like this.

However I've had three ego loss experiences at high dosages where I was able to leave what I guess is "me". They're nothing like any other kind of trip. They're unexplainably powerful and incredibly scary. I don't want to experience them again, its too much to handle in this world, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't learn from them. I think everyone can experience ego-loss. I'll never forget the time I was in a room full of friends and I was all of them we were the same. I was their thoughts, their memories, their futures and there was no way around it. Every time I experienced something like that I would try to talk out of it "its just crazy, this doesn't make sense?" but theres no way to do it. Its all too perfect to deny. Mathematically, physically, spiritually perfect.

Quote from: RomanClock;1357467I'm guessing this has to do with drugs in some subtle way.
I'm guessing you didn't read the entire post then :\

Arctic

Just a note on the time thing.  Adrenaline causes our perception of time to slow down.  Not sure if that's the sort of thing you mean though.

Anyways, something like this can't even begin to make sense for someone who hasn't tripped before, or any of the feelings or thoughts you had while tripping.  I'm sure you know this already though.

AlbinoClock

I agree with you completely. There's no sense in trying to tell anyone, though. Either they know or they don't. You know. That's what matters. Make use of that. {{{}}}

RomanClock

Yea, people who use drugs are enlightened beyond non-drug user comprehension.
lemayo lol :soups: