i wrote an essay on the clockcrew [word heavy]

[Odo]

also lol at less then year old DNAClock.

YOU GUYS CANT RUN MY LIFE YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND

IM RUNNING AWAY I KNOW THERES A PLACE FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME WITH WITH NEW IDEASSS

[SeedClock]

i have schizophrenia maybe i should make music

[SeedClock]

I mean it worked for wesley willis

[FlossClock]

Me and Filecabinet discuss the CC:

Floss says:
the cc is like having a crazy I'm a edgy teen kid that can't do shit and just takes up your entire life

Floss says:
you love it deep down

Floss says:
but sometimes you just wanna jam a pillow in its face and wait for it to stop moving

Filecabinet says:
no cc is like

Filecabinet says:
a stupid fucking asshole

Filecabinet says:
that you talk to because your moms hang out together and you kind of get stuck with him

Filecabinet says:
but fuck that kid

Filecabinet says:
seriously

Filecabinet says:
fuck him

Filecabinet says:
and fuck you too

Filecabinet says:
post that

[PepperClock]

I think dna had a good point...




Just kidding guys!

[AlbinoClock]

Notice how the staff are nonexistent in this thread. Fucking odd as shit.

Generally the way it goes. Threads that are about the site and important don't get read (or at least not replied to) by admins. Especially if they're well put together posts and not drama inducing tripe. One of my reasons for wanting more admins.

[DWARFINATORclock]

This forum needs more Grapes and BigBadRon.

[RocketFetus]

I guess I came to the Clock Crew at the wrong time. I really don't like the situation and I don't know if I should leave. I'll just see how this turns out.

[AlbinoClock]

Fuck yes. Why did Ron request a ban anyway?

[iced tea clock]

two things:

1. About the CC flash animations:
I maybe didn't follow the whole discussion completely over the last months. But what I always seem to read, is how the CC should get back to just troll newgrounds all the time. And I don't really get this, since even the elders like OrangeClock made movies that weren't spam at all.
So I was wondering if I am just misunderstanding all the old-CC-was-way-better-people on this point?

And I absolutely don't want to say, that the CC should only be about NG-love and quality movies. In fact I have a lot of fun, watching these troll-flashes and see how some of those NG kids can take this stuff so seriousely every single time. I think this is a very important part of the CC spirit.
But also the quality-CC-animations have something, you don't get anywhere else besides the clockcrew. (I hope this makes sense? )

2. About the CC mentality, the noob bashing or how we talk in the BBS
When I first joined here, I felt kinda like Screwdriver said. I was one of those noobs who thought all this "BBBBBBBBBBB" or "can i drive?" was the funniest stuff on the planet and I somehow hated all those elders who bashed newbies for referencing this stuff. The same goes for the hate on sprite movies and similar horrible stuff. I was unexperienced in arts and didn't know or identify  things like gradient-raping, so again I were not able to understand all the bashing on stuff like this.
Instead of shouting all my noob-thoughts out loud (and learning it the "hard way" by getting banned), I kept myself quiet and observed everything until I realized what an idiot i were. That this stuff just isn't funny after you heared it a few times, that sprite-animators aren't the biggest geniuses, but mostly bigheaded, talentless loafers who only benefit from all those 12 year old video game fanboys. Or that a complete gradient from black to white just doesn't create an awesome shiny-effect that implies that its creator got to be a first-class artist.

Maybe it was this direct way of telling the "noobs" that they suck, which taught me to become a better artist/animator. It was this mentality that made this place here special to other communities, where someone could post a horribly traced megaman-image and only gets the highest appreciations for it (in the last years I signed up to a lot of forum where I saw a behavior like this and immediately left that place). So this mentality is one of the main reasons I stayed here and yes, I think you can say, that there was a cutback in the last years.

summary
So what bothers me the most about this discussions, is that it is hard to understand, how the anti-new-CC-people actually think about point 1, since most of the arguments here are often so one-sided. Like when you say there was a complete 180degree change in the crew, as if stuff like camel day, hentai fest and all the other spam/troll-flashes of the last months never happened.
Of course it is not like in the beginnings of the CC, but the way you argue often sounds, as if anyone who puts effort into his movies, to make people enjoy watching it, is not welcome here at all.

[AlbinoClock]

two things:

1. About the CC flash animations:
I maybe didn't follow the whole discussion completely over the last months. But what I always seem to read, is how the CC should get back to just troll newgrounds all the time. And I don't really get this, since even the elders like OrangeClock made movies that weren't spam at all.
So I was wondering if I am just misunderstanding all the old-CC-was-way-better-people on this point?

I don't think anyone's seriously suggesting that we stop making more polished movies completely. The problem is that the very sort of people who respond to our trolling and can't deal with flaming (read: would have left if this were 05 or earlier) are all over the site now. It used to be a lot less so. The atmosphere around here has become more "accepting" but at the expense of having any respect for its roots or its older members.

Something else I'd like to bring up, though, is that IRC has been managed considerably differently from the BBS for years. InternetCult is essentially just a site that does things the way we do things in IRC. Hell, the staff is the same.

[PirateClock]

remember when the clockcrew wasn't about making huge ass boring posts whining how awesome it was in year XX and how much it sucks now.



me neither.

[GreyClock]

Triangle do you think I'm a good clock?

[Losperman]

Fuck yes. Why did Ron request a ban anyway?

Because of all of the whiny BS that's been going around the last few months, basically.

[PirateClock]

   Pirate
      yes
      Why do you always have to go "fuck the drama, it's stupid" when someones trying to make a point?
      It's just going against any act of solving it
      because the current clockcrew consists out of people who all have a different viewpoint on how the clockcrew should be, and therefor all see a "problem" in other people's viewpoints. Now we could all just try to take the positive element all this visions have in common, flash, and be productive and put the cc back on the map. But instead people seem to prefer to hammer on and on about certain negative elements and need to...
      ...argue till boring lengths about it, when it's all just draining energy and fun out of the clockcrew. The main issue i have with the "drama" is that it's nothing more then drama, no compromises are made on either side and everybody seems to think they are in the right. All what i want from the clockcrew is fun and a chance to get the cc together and make flash.
      Not to mention the drama scares away the true clock, namely the animator, and all that remain are pretentious asses who think their opinion counts more because they joined before a certain date. And new members who seems to just pick a team they like and argue for the sake of arguing and trying to get a name for themselves
      instead of making a name by making flash
      so yeah, that's why im "fuck the drama, it's stupid"
         i should post this in case anyone else asks
      als
      o
      im not reading the long posts
      haha me neither
      its always the same shit

[GreyClock]

cadillac
clock

[GreyClock]

Third post's a charm.

[FluxCapacitorClock]

Sometimes older members just leave because they grew up. Some of you guys act like if someone leaves, it must've been the community. That's the case sometimes, but not always. People grow up, and they realize at some point that making cartoons and portraying themselves as an object with a clock on it is no longer a productive use of their time.

[UnrealClock]

Sometimes older members just leave because they grew up. Some of you guys act like if someone leaves, it must've been the community. That's the case sometimes, but not always. People grow up, and they realize at some point that making cartoons and portraying themselves as an object with a clock on it is no longer a productive use of their time.

I can't possibly think that any member of the ClockCrew could grow up. It just isn't ClockCrewy.

[RabidClock]

GreyClock, let's settle our differences.

you two should totally kiss to break the tension