hands up, orderly queue, which of you

[patriotclock]

Someone remind me, why do ICers get a say in whether .cc can get an IRC server?
Because to me IC was all about seperation of .cc, but now IC is telling .cc not to get a server of their own?
Sounds pretty fucking hypocritical to me.

If it was about separation clearly we would've stopped coming here. You are clearly uninformed. CLEARLY

[DWARFINATORclock]

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flip flop

[GreyClock]

The real hypocritical thing is that first people are bitching that OH YOU SHOULDNT MAKE INTERNETCULT ITS WRONG TO MAKE ANOTHER FORUM etc. And now Leek wants to separate the chat. But Grey already pointed that out and you should learn to read threads Update.

Good job at conveniently disregarding more than half of my argument. (The Internet Cult users "bitching" about Leek's chat are just as hypocritical.)

And yeah, you're right, I'm the one flip flopping by going from not caring about chat in one post, to attempting to diffuse the situation by applying simple logic three pages on. As opposed to the 180 degree turn most of you have made, which was my whole point to begin with, right? Oh boy!

Maybe you can manage to answer my simple question now: what are you all so worried about? Afraid that your IRC just doesn't cut it? Clearly some of us, including myself, overestimated the Internet Cult forums in the beginning, maybe now you guys are overestimating this new chat? (Or you can choose to keep deflecting it forever.)

[CANNABISCLOCK]

come on everyone chill out

[LuigiClock]

Moderate you say?

[WreckingBallClock]

ITT: Everyone becomes a moderator.

[DWARFINATORclock]

Maybe you can manage to answer my simple question now: what are you all so worried about? Afraid that your IRC just doesn't cut it? Clearly some of us, including myself, overestimated the Internet Cult forums in the beginning, maybe now you guys are overestimating this new chat? (Or you can choose to keep deflecting it forever.)

No we are not afraid that the chat won't cut it. It just seemed appropriate to respond to Leek making a new chat the same way people responded to Internetcult.

[Loki Clock]

Not that that matters.

Yes, it doesn't.

I don't really see what you are getting pissed off about cause you are never in the chat and seem to be thoroughly misinformed.

So to have the authority to criticize you need to be better than what you're criticizing? I see a flaw in the system, and I'm telling you how I think it can be mended.

That is like saying someone shouldn't be banned from the whole forum for spamming goatse, just from the board he spammed.

No, because as I explained the chat rooms are not separate discussion categories for the larger chat community, they're completely exclusive functions. And if someone really needs to be banned from all the chat rooms, then obviously they'd have been individually banned from all the chat rooms by one of that chat's mods. There's no way I can see, except in the case of a bot or the like, for a mod banning someone from the whole server because of offenses within their chat to be considered anything but overreaching.

[DWARFINATORclock]

No, because as I explained the chat rooms are not separate discussion categories for the larger chat community, they're completely exclusive functions. And if someone really needs to be banned from all the chat rooms, then obviously they'd have been individually banned from all the chat rooms by one of that chat's mods. There's no way I can see, except in the case of a bot or the like, for a mod banning someone from the whole server because of offenses within their chat to be considered anything but overreaching.

How much experience do you have with IRC and operating a server?

[Loki Clock]

How much experience do you have with IRC and operating a server?

I certainly know my way around an IRC chat, thank you very much. My opinion is logical and you know it, stop trying to disqualify me for personal reasons.

[DWARFINATORclock]

I certainly know my way around an IRC chat, thank you very much. My opinion is logical and you know it, stop trying to disqualify me for personal reasons.

I have nothing against you as a person, it's just that your "logic" is flawed.

[Pullasuti]

jesus christ this is a ridiculous thread

[billiardball-1]

lol why would you want your own server for one chat room without any of its regulars? Oh well. Hey, I'll op it.

[YoYoClock]

Yeh i'll op it. thatd be fun

[Loki Clock]

I have nothing against you as a person, it's just that your "logic" is flawed.

Give me one good reason you need to be able to ban someone from the server, instead of banning them on a chatroom-by-chatroom basis.

[DWARFINATORclock]

Give me one good reason you need to be able to ban someone from the server, instead of banning them on a chatroom-by-chatroom basis.

I'm a server operator and my job is to keep the server shit free and running smoothly. You fail to see that some people just join the chats for trolling, and if they continuously do this we will ban them from the server.

You act like we server ban everyone for nothing, when in reality we currently only have like two people banned from the server.

[WarCorrespondentClock]

Arguements are fun!

[RabidClock]

Leek the server I paid for is for use by the clockcrew, I never dedicated the IRC server to IC only use and I don't see the point of changing servers yet again. Besides the usual crowd it's only used for CCA which the current staff has been nothing but accommodating to.

I really don't know why I bother my time and money with this group because it always ends up tearing itself apart and shitting on the people who seem to actually care.

[patriotclock]

this is true. ask zl how many times ive removed permabans to accommodate the academy (i even removed a floppy ban one time!!)

You sir are a saint

[FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK]

Didn't you ban me from the academy the moment I joined the last time?