whose flood market

[RobClock]

My internet's gone out again. Three weeks since last time, right on fucking schedule.

[DiscoBallClock]

MORE NETFLIX TALK;

The Crown season 4 is here and it's the moment I've been dreading since the series premiere; the Diana arc. Astute viewers will note that the show runner is one Peter Morgan (husband of Gillian Anderson who happens to show up this season as Maggie Thatcher doing an impression that ages the Iron Lady much later in her career than the early 80s where the season picks up), who previously penned the 2006 film The Queen- a story based entirely upon the death of Lady Di and the plummeting approval of the Royals thereafter. Hitherto now The Crown could not be pigeon holed into having either a royalist or republican (British definition) skew, moreso simply portraying the Queen and her family as human beings struggling with the pressures and expectations of their positions as an institution and how dehumanizing that can be- this veil is unceremoniously dropped with a plethora of ham fisted imagery pertaining to mounted stags, and a staunch juxtaposition between (for lack of a more apt word)  contemporary music, settings, and urban sensibility to frame The Queen and the institution of The Crown as cold, and archaic. I give them some credit for still making token attempts to sway the casual viewer towards sympathies for Charles and his love for Camilla, giving it this star-crossed-lover sort of mystique that duty prevents- but it's clear in narrative structure that the show is staunchly in Diana's corner and expects you to be as well.

Ps I'm only five episodes deep so I'll see if my opinion changes by the seasons end. It's still a wonderfully acted and directed programme with exquisite set and costume design, I just wish it had managed to maintain its earlier seemingly impartial position.

Why am I not surprised you're into The Crown, haha. I haven't seen the new season yet, but if I'm allowed to play devil's advocate, weren't the late 80s/early 90s a really tough time for the British monarchy? Maybe the showrunners are trying to replicate that mood. I could be wrong though. I'll let you know when I take a look at it

I was going to make the same point. Also, and granted I'm a republican by default, but surely we can agree that monarchy is cold and archaic by definition?

Are you saying you hate His Majesty The King of the Netherlands, Willem-Alexander? Sounds antipatriotic.

idk King's Day sounds like a lot of fun

[DiscoBallClock]

On a side note, it's funny how the CC has introduced me to Dutch culture, due to its large Dutch contingent. I guess I kinda grew sympathetic to the Netherlands. Later on I made a Dutch friend irl and his cultural tales didn't feel very alien. And of course, I loved being there. I guess that if I had to pick a country in Europe to live in other than this one, I'd probably go for the Netherlands

[RobClock]

Republicanism is sooo 1658, get with the times

I should have said sixteen-fifty-late DAMN IT

[DiscoBallClock]

The best thing that the monarchy brought to life is the Habsburg jaw:

[GreyClock]

Also this discussion about the death of expression and new forms of media, the internet and so on. It reminds me, in spirit (Rob), of this exchange from season 1 of True Detective:

"So you're telling me the world isn't getting worse? I've seen kids today, all in black, wearing makeup, shit on their faces; everything's sex. Clinton!"
"You know, throughout history, I bet every old man probably said the same thing. And old men die. And the world keeps spinning."

Meaning, I'm sure that, historically, there's a certain percentage of people that (for whatever reason*) feel a need to express themselves artistically. (To clarify: I wouldn't attach any particular quality to that percentage, I would equate it to something as simple as, say, the percentage of people who are left-handed.) Anyway, regardless of whatever medium is available to them at the time (spanning from cave painting to TikTok), some of those people are going to act out on those urges. Every now and then a rare talent (or talents) comes along that might birth an entire new medium, a period, a style, a particular angle or even the teensiest of flourishes. (Hell, we've been actively involved in one such wave ourselves, right here. It's not the Renaissance, but hey.) Some of these will prove more popular than others. Some might get discarded, others might be absorbed into, or even become the leading "culture", albeit homogenized and neutered. Until the next big thing comes along, and so it goes, on and on until the permanent dissolution of mankind (or if we somehow manage to cut whatever the "creative spark" is from our DNA or something, before that. Maybe medicate it?).**

Obviously I don't mean any of this in a strict, literal, linear kind of way. There's a million of these things happening all at once, all over the world, at any point in time, not just in art or culture, but in any field or discipline. And within any of those million things, there's a million (arbitrary) subcategories, ad nauseam. I think it might just be the nature of being, the nature of knowledge and ideas.


*I think I heard something posited once about it being a remnant of childhood, like we play and draw and learn. An evolutionary thing, like lion cubs play fighting. In the context of artists like Picasso, Matisse and Appel abandoning convention and skill to instead return to a sense of childlike wonder and freedom. Or something like outsider art.
**I have this little book called 10,000 YEARS OF ART, which I think is meant to be some sort of affirmation or celebration of human expression and creativity. To me, it seems more like a testament to the transient nature of all human endeavour.

[Slurpee]

https://imgur.com/rAUFTnf

given the hint "they're a conscious wonderful immortalized figure", the clock crew made the following guesses in the following order:
1) jesus
2) david bowie
3) god
4) disney
5) buddha
6) jesus
7) karl marx

is this your way of letting us know you love us and the saturday night slurpee games

yes

[FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK]

Also this discussion about the death of expression and new forms of media, the internet and so on. It reminds me, in spirit (Rob), of this exchange from season 1 of True Detective:

"So you're telling me the world isn't getting worse? I've seen kids today, all in black, wearing makeup, shit on their faces; everything's sex. Clinton!"
"You know, throughout history, I bet every old man probably said the same thing. And old men die. And the world keeps spinning."

I remember hearing that about all those old quotes from roman times where people were saying the same shit but then I learned some of them were saying that in the last couple hundred years for the empire so hmm. But THEN what they point to is shit like young men playing the lyre. which was kinda like the equivalent of college dudes playing wonder wall in the grass to pick up chicks. Will people look back on us in thousands of years and say "yep, wonderwall, that was the point where it all went to hell"? I sure hope so.

[RobClock]

get off my lawn you damn hippies

[GreyClock]

Here's a, as the kids call it, pro tip for anyone who tries to quit smoking: don't leave tobacco laying around, even if you have trouble throwing shit out. Especially when you're about to jump out of your skin late one night. Guess I'll finish whatever's left of this pouch before quitting again.

[VCRClock]

Here's a, as the kids call it, pro tip for anyone who tries to quit smoking: don't leave tobacco laying around, even if you have trouble throwing shit out. Especially when you're about to jump out of your skin late one night. Guess I'll finish whatever's left of this pouch before quitting again.

[DiscoBallClock]

Here's a, as the kids call it, pro tip for anyone who tries to quit smoking: don't leave tobacco laying around, even if you have trouble throwing shit out. Especially when you're about to jump out of your skin late one night. Guess I'll finish whatever's left of this pouch before quitting again.

I thought you'd gotten rid of it - having stuff to smoke around is never a good idea. When I come back from a smoking foray I make sure I don't have any paraphernalia lying around

[GreyClock]

Yeah, rookie mistake. That said, it has resolved me in my efforts I think. The difference is like fucking night and day.

When I smoke I feel great mentally. I only smoked last night and today and I'm already happy and relaxed again. My cat and co-workers don't annoy the everliving piss out of me anymore. Physically, I immediately felt worse.
When not smoking (even for that short week), I felt much better physically. No weird little aches, I could feel my blood pressure dropping by the minute. Mentally, I was a swirling ball of rage, one that slowly melted into a smothering slab of depression. (Refer to my posts of the 15th.)

Well, lesson learned I guess. Next time there won't be any tobacco and I can either just deal with it or put a thumb up my ass or something.

[RobClock]

When my mother quit smoking she kept an unopened pack on the window sill in the kitchen and would sit and stare at it for maybe an hour at a time. That was about five years back, and she still has the same pack and keeps it in the cupboard by the stove.

I'd have stolen it by now but they're players smooth and fuck that

[Slurpee]

smoking's cool
I'm glad I never started

[PhantomCatClock]

The first cigarette I smoked was in Texas. It was a brand called Red Camel or Camel Red, but it was not the same company that makes the national brand, Camel®™. The first one sure was a cigarette. The second one had little worms in it. I did not have a third.








fuckn love cigars tho, only i only smoke those annually-ish. Sometimes biannually, sometimes the other definition of biannually.

[VCRClock]

[PhantomCatClock]

even non-smokers don't say no to free cigarettes




until the little worms

[RobClock]

smoking's cool
I'm glad I never started

I'm sorry we're degenerates slurpee



This statement is made in earnest not meant as a flippant remark

[RobClock]

even non-smokers don't say no to free cigarettes




until the little worms

Turning down free drugs is just poor social etiquette