Quote from: Asshatclock;1908715These games are great every single one of them.

This 100%.

Best bundle I've seen in months.

Quote from: Thor;1907013I don't doubt it's a fun game, but that really doesn't change the fact that it's a game with bad DRM and blizzard is screwing over their customers for money. The two things aren't really related and it's pretty unreasonable and fanboyish how you rush to defend Blizzard's obvious flaws.

Starcraft 2 is another good example of how greedy Blizzard has gotten, with how they split the game into 3 version and charge full price for each.

I don't really like the implication that I'm making points based on some blind devotion to Blizzard rather than my own thought process, so I'm going to assume you didn't mean it that way.

I also disagree with your cynical view of Starcraft 2, but I'll leave it at that, and get back to the actual topic.

Haven't got to play much, but what I've seen of the Witch Doctor in Act I is pretty awesome.  I've taken down a couple bosses and I'm gearing up my blacksmith, who, to my wonder, is already making gear that I can't use by level.  Running into something similar to other games though, where the vendor gear is worthless for the price, and I find the merchants mostly places to dump whites.

Quote from: Buttplug;1906997They also have the exact same DRM in Starcraft2, which has no duping and goldfarming problems. It's all about (real) money and control.

Since SC2 doesn't have any form of economy to worry about, there is also an offline mode that you can play as long as you log in once a month.

Also the AH is region locked.  
But I mean whatever, you're entitled to your own conclusion, I'm having a great time with the game so it's cool with me anyway.

Quote from: Thor;1906884No matter how you try to justify it CelticKnot (that's a cool clock name btw), it's still just bad DRM. DRM that is obtrusive to gameplay and make it more difficult for normal customers to access their legally purchased product or bock them from using it entirely is the worst kind. And that's exactly what Diablo 3 has. There's no good reason they couldn't have had an offline single player mode.

Also saying "they can't have everything client side or they could bypass the drm" is a dumb argument because it's like saying "they can't remove their bad DRM or their bad DRM wouldn't work".

In the words of Gabe Newell, "Piracy is almost always a service problem". And this game provides shit service. WHEN a crack for the game comes out (and it will happen. There have been plenty of supposedly unpiratable games before this one) it will undoubtedly be a superior product.

I'm not talking about it from a piracy standpoint.  

Diablo and Diablo 2's multiplayer and economy were utterly destroyed because the games were so easily botted, hacked, and exploited.  I was saying that I'm pretty sure that given the Auction House in Diablo 3, they wanted to keep the game as secure as possible, so they moved processing of loot, gold, and etc... to servers, rather than letting people have direct access to decompile it.  The easiest way to do so is by running the game like an MMO.

Duping in Diablo is easy, duping in WoW is hard.

Yes, Bots will still exist, but with the region control on the auction house, the asian goldfarming monolith should not affect this game as easily.

I agree that as DRM, it is a terrible idea, but I feel that Blizzard has a valid concern, and a vested interest in keeping the game from becoming Mos Eisley.

Quote from: SoBe Clock;1906942Where D2 had the Cow Level, D3 has Whimsyshire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeQzJC-vS40

I love how they clearly made the secret level like this in response to everyone who said the game was cartoony and not dark enough.

That's amazing, I must go there.

With the extra time it would take to somehow bar any offline content from getting used online (to prevent hacked items, characters, dupes, achievements), I'm not sure it would have been worth the effort for launch day.

The problem is, offline mode would be an entirely different code base, or would have to expose the server programming on your computer, which would cause massive security issues, and could easily negatively affect the online portion of the game.

I'd love to see it for people who'd like it, but I'm not sure it'll happen.

Playing right now, Witch Doctor is slick.

I'm actually glad they're running it online for a couple reasons.

Firstly, it means that via client-server, my computer doesn't have to do so much legwork, so I get decent performance as a result.

Secondly, since they've got the auction house going, having the item generation and stuff on a remote server helps to keep things legitimate, and I'm glad they're trying to take steps towar

Added mine.

Quote from: Buttplug;1906831Still trying to create hero. The servers must be sweatin

Yeah I just spent an hour trying to log in, my all nighter plan has been snuffed out.

Installed and waiting, have the shortcut in steam, I'll add any of you back to chat during or w/e.

Quote from: AstronautClock;1906743what is going through you right now that youve returned

Uh, going through me?
I got a wild hair up my ass and was all "I wonder if these guys are still even kicking?"

Turns out you are!

Also I've been working with flixel a lot lately, so I figure I might be able to contribute again.

Quote from: AbsintheClock;1906747Hey I vaguely remember you!

I more than vaguely remember you!
We did that propaganda day thing at the mall.

Quote from: BilliardBall10;1906750hey, still suffering from insomnia?

heh, welcome back! i remember you!

Mostly self-induced lately, especially tonight.
That's why I'm a professional though.

uh.
NAMKCOR (display name PROT.0)

also anyone else have a 3DS?

Quote from: F U Clock;1906732ClockCrew: Formed in 2009.

No that was when I was last logged in here.

This is still here?
Hold on let me get my 2009 back.

oh dear god

Quote from: CYBORG PIRATE NINJA JESUS;1670150it almost made firefox crash

same.

Quote from: PoisonShroom;1667202Maybe a little obvious, but always make sure you play these games alone, with the lights off and volume up.

qft

also, 2 has pyramid head so 2 is <3
3's combat system is better but is underused and the bosses are kinda easy/boring

tip: use melee unless it's a boss fight, ammo is sparse and enemies take a fuckload of shots to kill usually, so it's best to not waste ammo, especially in 3.

yeah I know a friend that went to japan, apparently it's a lot more healthy there too, and they're actually -nice- to you over there!

like they're actually happy to give you food instead of just staring at you blankly with a dead expression in their eyes.

send the xbox to me.