Please don't turn this into a "Drugz r c00l v bad" thread :\

Quote from: RomanClock;1337557Please don't turn this into a "Drugz r c00l" thread :\

That's a matter of how often people decide to say drug users are retards.

YOU SHOULD TRY A HAIRCUT.

Quote from: RomanClock;1337561YOU SHOULD TRY A HAIRCUT.

This. It feels really good and will make summer less shitty.

Staying up for 58hours straight, before embarking into a good 2hour blank stare into a picture, with a continuously loop of music, playing in the background.

Always refreshes me

Quote from: balutbalutbalutbalut;1337563This. It feels really good and will make summer less shitty.

make sure you a get a good shave to go with this as well, and make them really cut your hair.

Quote from: SCSP;1337576make sure you a get a good shave to go with this as well, and make them really cut your hair.

Fuck all that. If you're gonna get a hair cut, shave your head, then you get to grow it back to whatever length you want. If you're shaving your head, do it yourself, it's like a self-transformation ritual.

Quote from: balutbalutbalutbalut;1337580Fuck all that. If you're gonna get a hair cut, shave your head, then you get to grow it back to whatever length you want. If you're shaving your head, do it yourself, it's like a self-transformation ritual.

I think he meant shave as in facial hair.

Banging out some really loud shit on guitar is very cathartic for me especially fucking around with some crazy ass effects. lots of delay+bottleneck slide+overdrive+phaser=hours of fun

Quote from: balutbalutbalutbalut;1337439Don't go down that road, Sage. I've been there. Speed doesn't make you less anxious, it makes you more disassociated so you don't notice your anxiousness. If you're thinking drugs to calm you down, go with weed, it actually works.

Yeah except 1. I don't like dealing around the law and worrying if the next time I get drugs it's going to land me in jail, and 2. I know weed basically puts you out of commission while you're taking it and you get NOTHING done, and that's the opposite of what I want to do.

As for ADD pills (Adderall, Concerta, whatever), why do you think I've been avoiding going for the past 6 years, at least, when it finally occurred to me I had a problem? Yeah, I don't want to go down that road, but my brother has, and the differences in our productivity levels (after he's started taking pills) is pretty immense. If I do it (and I think I am going to try, assuming a shrink thinks I should try it), it's only going to be experimental anyway. If they don't help me get more done in the day, or the side effects are too great, I'll stop taking them. I'm not required to take them, unlike parents or teachers that can force them on children. My brother doesn't always take his either.

I also read 3 different books on ADD and I seem to have a lot of the symptoms (albeit I can still function, which is another reason I've put it off). It may be partially induced by my diet and media and culture, too, but I'm not coping with it as well as I should, and I keep getting this nagging feeling that "well, what if I started taking these things 6 years ago? Maybe I would have gotten 3 novels published, 20 games made, given a couple lectures, gotten a job in the industry 4 years ago or started a successful business, etc etc.... so what if I never try taking them? Will I always be so limited in my potential? Is taking a pill a day the difference between me being just a temporary contributor to society or a someone who makes a lasting difference and changes thousands of people's lives for the better?"

It's possible I do have a deficiency in my brain chemistry compared to normal people (or it's possible I'm just too ambitious, who knows), and I really need to stop being such a pussy about it and be willing to try different options that seem to be pretty damn safe, mostly, instead of relying on the extremely anecdotal and limited opinions of the overwhelming majority of people who are satisfied with their capabilities and don't have quite the same level of frustration as I do.

Quote from: I am Spartacus;1337387Have a lot of sex and enjoy the post climax relax.

this is leek we're talking about

also you guys are rubbish being calm is for fags

THE FURY!

Quote from: SageClock;1337642Yeah except 1. I don't like dealing around the law and worrying if the next time I get drugs it's going to land me in jail, and 2. I know weed basically puts you out of commission while you're taking it and you get NOTHING done, and that's the opposite of what I want to do.

As for ADD pills (Adderall, Concerta, whatever), why do you think I've been avoiding going for the past 6 years, at least, when it finally occurred to me I had a problem? Yeah, I don't want to go down that road, but my brother has, and the differences in our productivity levels (after he's started taking pills) is pretty immense. If I do it (and I think I am going to try, assuming a shrink thinks I should try it), it's only going to be experimental anyway. If they don't help me get more done in the day, or the side effects are too great, I'll stop taking them. I'm not required to take them, unlike parents or teachers that can force them on children. My brother doesn't always take his either.

I also read 3 different books on ADD and I seem to have a lot of the symptoms (albeit I can still function, which is another reason I've put it off). It may be partially induced by my diet and media and culture, too, but I'm not coping with it as well as I should, and I keep getting this nagging feeling that "well, what if I started taking these things 6 years ago? Maybe I would have gotten 3 novels published, 20 games made, given a couple lectures, gotten a job in the industry 4 years ago or started a successful business, etc etc.... so what if I never try taking them? Will I always be so limited in my potential? Is taking a pill a day the difference between me being just a temporary contributor to society or a someone who makes a lasting difference and changes thousands of people's lives for the better?"

It's possible I do have a deficiency in my brain chemistry compared to normal people (or it's possible I'm just too ambitious, who knows), and I really need to stop being such a pussy about it and be willing to try different options that seem to be pretty damn safe, mostly, instead of relying on the extremely anecdotal and limited opinions of the overwhelming majority of people who are satisfied with their capabilities and don't have quite the same level of frustration as I do.

Have you smoked weed? Have you smoked weed everyday for weeks? When you smoke weed the high you get when you first start is much different from a high you get when you have high tolerance. You are able to function through every day situations and you still have the added creativity and relaxation you desire. I to am self-diagnosed with ADD as it runs in the family and I have many symptoms but you really do not want to get into speed. Just because it is legal doesn't make it good, hell in the 50's you can get meth just as easy as getting adderall and ritalin. Yes it temporarily relieves your symptoms but you build a tolerance quickly and you need to up your dosage and eventually it will  become a need, you will be depressed and unmotivated without it and you will depend on it. I have had my share of the stuff, it is no good unless you get some to help study for a test or wrap up a project, every day use is bad news. Also, buying weed and using it is so easy to get away with, all my smoking years and I had only one legal encounter that is drug related which was just a search, and nothing was found so its all good.

Quote from: SageClock;1337642Yeah except 1. I don't like dealing around the law and worrying if the next time I get drugs it's going to land me in jail, and 2. I know weed basically puts you out of commission while you're taking it and you get NOTHING done, and that's the opposite of what I want to do.

+Long post.

I think that is only true of people who are inexperienced with smoking. I get a lot done while smoking, it's true. I actually get MORE done while I am smoking because I am generally in a better mood and feel like I can get things done -- I just don't want to sit there and be lazy. Really, it depends on you -- if you let yourself get lazy then you will, it isn't the fault of the drug. But meh. The police paranoia thing is a semi-legit concern, but nowadays it isn't something you have to worry much about unless you have over an ounce at a time -- I have seen cops drive past people smoking often. Basicly if you just stick around friends instead of dealing with random people, you have nothing to worry about.

But yeah, I'm not trying to turn you on to marijuana, that is up to you and if you disagree with it then you disagree with it -- doesn't matter why. Just saying, I agree with Albino.

Ultimately YOU know better than anyone, and you seem to have put a lot of thought into it, so I can't say you are making the wrong choice, but it definitely isn't the choice I would suggest.

Quote from: Positive Clock;1337746I to am self-diagnosed with ADD as it runs in the family and I have many symptoms but you really do not want to get into speed. Just because it is legal doesn't make it good, hell in the 50's you can get meth just as easy as getting adderall and ritalin. Yes it temporarily relieves your symptoms but you build a tolerance quickly and you need to up your dosage and eventually it will  become a need, you will be depressed and unmotivated without it and you will depend on it.

Nothing like that happened when I was on adderall.

Sage/Leek do not kill your awesome with drugs

Quote from: Marlix Wright;1337776Nothing like that happened when I was on adderall.

Marlin you fucking speed junkie.

Quote from: Positive Clock;1337746Yes it temporarily relieves your symptoms but you build a tolerance quickly and you need to up your dosage and eventually it will  become a need, you will be depressed and unmotivated without it and you will depend on it.

Hmmm. This didn't happen to a friend of mine, as a matter of fact he really hated taking it and he'd avoid taking it whenever he could. Same goes for my cousin.

Quote from: RomanClock;1337797Sage/Leek do not kill your awesome with drugs

Agreed. I'm not anti weed or anything (Geez imagine how many pages this thread would have if I said anything anti weed.) but seriously we need a few of those cool non drugsy people. Just like we have cool drugs persons like uh...  ... ... Bluehippo for instance and uh... Yeah Bluehippo is a cool drugs guy.

Quote from: balutbalutbalutbalut;1337537So you think I'm a retard do you?

To be honest I'm pretty sure he does. And so do I.