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Farted by F U Clock, July 24, 2012, 07:33:07 PM

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AlbinoClock

For starters, asthma and severe respiratory allergies. Basically this means that I can't run, I'm sick all the time, and I can't go anywhere near a dog. I have scoliosis, producing back and chest pain, and some sort of horrible migranes or cluster headaches or something that I haven't been to the doctor for because I don't have insurance. I also have bipolar I disorder and who knows what else.

Quote from: VCRClock;1913743If you're suffering from any kind of the latter, there's no point in making the health problem a huge part of your identity, unless you're doing something positive about it (like research or fundraising.) Bringing together a discussion composed of people who haven't lived with each others' problems quickly turns into people trying to legitimize and validate their own struggles, while possibly minimizing other people's problems in the process. It's not productive. Neither is worrying, but sometimes we can't help that.

I agree that you shouldn't try to minimize other people's problems, and that trying to see who has it worse and who needs a pat on the head is counter-productive, but I don't think that means life-altering health problems should be subject we never talk about. People with different health problems can have similar and relatable changes to their lives because of them. It doesn't help to dwell on your problems, but talking about them can help. You don't have to make your problems part of your identity for them to be part of your identity. Our limitations are as much a part of us as our strengths. Living in denial isn't any more helpful than dwelling. You shouldn't necessarily emphasize your limitations but you should certainly own them.
 
I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure I'd be in a completely different position if I'd been a normal kid who could play sports, keep up with everyone else, and who wasn't experiencing unpredictable emotional upheavals. I'm pretty sure things would have gone down differently in my late teens and early 20s if I hadn't been in pain and depressed or psychotic day in and day out. That shit completely changed my life, those obstacles and the coping methods I developed made me the person I am today. It's absurd to say that my identity shouldn't be related to those limitations, it's been sculpted by them. I know how to cope with them, but I don't know a fucking way around them. Whether or not venting about that is counter-productive is situational, I think, but it's certainly justifiable.
 
I get trying your best not to dwell, but that's not the only part of coping and I would warn against catching others in the crossfire of you sorting out your own things.

Biggskoo

Quote from: PatriotClock;1913789I have ulcerative colitis. It's kinda like Crohns disease. It made me have to get a blood transfusion earlier this year

i have crohn's disease

bad guts buds

FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK

Quote from: SirClock;1913970Just my personal experience I seriously recommend:

Before any doctors have you on any hard-core (killer) drugs or chemotherapy for any serious health issues, do some research and visit a respected holistic healer. You might be incredibly surprised with what can be resolved by alternative methods before you declare chemical warfare on your body. Even if your skeptical, its worth a shot before you spend a billion dollars on drugs and treatment anyways.

Dont listen to this guy, SirClock is obviously trying to kill you. What you need is leeches.



Lots and lots of leeches.

VCRClock

Quote from: AlbinoClock;1914145I get trying your best not to dwell, but that's not the only part of coping and I would warn against catching others in the crossfire of you sorting out your own things.

Yeah, what you said is completely valid. Not recognizing that the conditions you deal with are actually part of your identity was sort of an error of omission. I wasn't thinking of anything other than the emphasis and over-identifying that I anticipated due to the nature of online discussions like this one. Likewise, I guess I don't mean to say that talking about your problems can't be productive, but I do think that that sort of discussion is better suited to in-person interactions, or Internet venues where your audience won't be inclined to compete with you.

Maybe my post reads that way, but I don't advocate "living in denial" at all. Discussion and introspection can both be productive, but excessive navel-gazing isn't. At the same time, if it looked like I was trying to lay down the rules of coping, please understand that it's actually a thinly-veiled "I hope there aren't any posts that negate other people's problems or try to play up those of their authors; I don't care for those." In retrospect I probably should have just posted that.

Finally, there are probably elements of "sorting out my own things" in my post, though I don't like your wording. If it's somehow clear that my post suffers from the influence of unsorted things, the reader may take my rambling with a grain of salt. Otherwise, it's just unsolicited, unqualified Internet advice. I appreciate the criticism, though.
<Marlin Clock> This thread seems proof positive that divisiveness at any level is usually bad for the Clock Crew.
<PhantomCatClock> are we talking about the same clock crew

NintendrCkolc

Quote from: F U Clock;1913749For instance, Nintendo that's pretty wild. Why did your nuts feel the need to store all those dead sperm.

Honestly I have no idea. Supposedly they can occur from trauma and as I played a lot of contact sports in Jr. High/High School its not too surprising. That'd be my best guess.

It's a pretty common occurrence apparently though. Some people have em and don't even know it.

patriotclock

Quote from: Biggskoo;1914146i have crohn's disease

bad guts buds

Intestine buddies

:lo5:

AlbinoClock

Quote from: SirClockBefore any doctors have you on any hard-core (killer) drugs or chemotherapy for any serious health issues, do some research and visit a respected holistic healer. You might be incredibly surprised with what can be resolved by alternative methods before you declare chemical warfare on your body. Even if your skeptical, its worth a shot before you spend a billion dollars on drugs and treatment anyways.

Holy shit this is a bad idea. Do not listen to SirClock. "Alternative" medicine, that is, "medicine" lacking evidence of efficacy, is not going to help your cancer. If you are seriously ill, go to an actual fucking doctor. Don't die over some hippie bullshit. You don't want to die a completely pointless death like Steve Jobs just because you went along with some bullshit trend.
 
You know what we call medicine that works? Medicine. Even if you're getting your aspirin from willow bark or taking a tulsi tincture, that's still medicine. Willow bark and tulsi actually contain an anti-inflammatory and anesthetic respectively. You're better off taking the exracted version, simply because you get more of what you actually need and less of what you don't, but at least it's still legitimately medicine. A lot of this "holistic" stuff is not. Homeopathy isn't medicine, reiki isn't medicine, crystals aren't medicine, acupuncture isn't medicine. Do the research on this stuff. The only thing with any efficacy in that list is acupuncture, which has a measurable effect on some pain disorders. The thing about acupuncture, though, is that it works just as well if you place the pins randomly. You can certainly pick up some holistic bullshit for some mild illness or discomfort and *feel* better, that's the placebo effect. That kind of stuff might be good for quitting smoking or helping with pain, for that very reason, but it's not going to shrink your tumors and it's not going to stop your cancer from metastasizing.
 
Alternative medicine is bullshit, but if you want to use it for some minor condition, it can work a decent placebo effect, so go for it if you don't mind shelling out cash for something you could do yourself for free. If you're seriously ill, though, go to a fucking doctor.

Telling people whose lives are at risk to FIRST go fuck around with some shit that doesn't work is not fucking cool. You're going to get someone killed Creatus. Catching it early and acting fast is everything.

Quote from: VCRClock;1914151Things

Right on.

buttplug

Quote from: SirClock;1913970Just my personal experience I seriously recommend:

Before any doctors have you on any hard-core (killer) drugs or chemotherapy for any serious health issues, do some research and visit a respected holistic healer. You might be incredibly surprised with what can be resolved by alternative methods before you declare chemical warfare on your body. Even if your skeptical, its worth a shot before you spend a billion dollars on drugs and treatment anyways.

So you personally had cancer? Did you put it into remission with holistic methods?

DrClock

Quote from: Buttplug;1914226So you personally had cancer? Did you put it into remission with holistic methods?


AlbinoClock

Quote from: DrClock;1914228

Hahaha, brilliant. "We'd as well be 10 minutes back in time for all the chance you'll change your mind."

SnakeClock

I'm concerned about getting Type 2 Diabetes because I drink a lot of soft drinks and don't exercise much, but considering I also don't eat a lot, maybe that won't be a problem.

DigitalLemonClock

im chronically smart + handsome : (
BAN EVERYBODY

Biggskoo

Quote from: DigitalLemonClock;1914432im chronically smart + handsome : (

wow that sucjs

SnakeClock

Quote from: DigitalLemonClock;1914432im chronically smart + handsome : (

Take two seasons of Star Trek and call me in the morning.

Corporal Clock

i have two exceedingly ugly toenails does that count

SirClock

Quote from: AlbinoClock;1914225Telling people whose lives are at risk to FIRST go fuck around with some shit that doesn't work is not fucking cool. You're going to get someone killed Creatus. Catching it early and acting fast is everything.

Woah there sir. I said try Holistic Healing when the medicine doesn't work, not as a replacement, but please feel free to go on a huge rant about how I'm endangering people's lives... :\

However, you won't see me waltzing in to get chemotherapy anytime soon when 75% of physicians say they would refuse it themselves.

Quote from: clammo;1914493ahhahaha holy shit this post thanks everyone for quoting it otherwise i would have missed it


also, faith healing is "alternative medicine" and we all know how much of a scam that is.

Um no. I'm talking more about energy / meridian / chakra healing. It is not "faith whateverthefuck" you have to go to school to do any of this stuff. Its also better to do this to free up energy blockages before they causes diseases rather then after. But often the case someone who keeps getting sick needs energy healing to cure the problem at its root cause. Physical sickness is often times the result of ignoring / remaining unconscious about many unhealthy tenancies that build up negatively on an energetic level.

But scoff all you want. People who laugh at the idea of energy-treatments and only believe chemical medicine is actual treatment are following the old and beaten road. That mindset will be outgrown as people are already developing a very sophisticated understanding of energy. Mankind will evolve in their ability to heal amongst other things. Those who are less closed-minded and stubborn may get to seize that opportunity before many others.

AlbinoClock

You said, and I quote  
QuoteBefore any doctors have you on any hard-core (killer) drugs or chemotherapy for any serious health issues, do some research and visit a respected holistic healer.

Steve Jobs was afraid of chemo too, and now he's dead.
 
Also that's not what energy means. Energy is active potential, not dragon ball z shit.

SirClock

Quote from: AlbinoClock;1914711Also that's not what energy means. Energy is active potential, not dragon ball z shit.

Oh ok thanks for filling me in. I'll submit a complaint report to my local wizard.

FLOUNDERMAN_CLOCK

sirclock in your professional opinion how much prana do you think I need to become a super saiyan.