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RobClock

Quote from: Slurpee on August 16, 2020, 03:47:00 PM
I don't think I watched any of the new seasons but naming anything My Struggle seems kind of
uh

yes


10 and 11 are both miniseries, essentially, and have like maybe one or two watchable episodes each. There's this awful contrived feeling of unnecessary modernization like Mulder and Scully need to somehow be drastically reframed because IT'S NOT THE 90s ANYMORE!! Cut me a fucking break

GreyClock

I read something once about how the mytharc episodes should be viewed more as the stand-alone monster episodes w/r/t cohesive narrative, sure there's some sort of attempt, but it was always secondary to exploring as many different aspects of conspiracies as possible. The overarching story was just a framework to hang that stuff on. I don't know if that was intended, or if it's just a convenient way to explain away all the plot holes, bouts of amnesia & brain damage, jarring shifts between episodes (Scully has been abducted? Better go traipse around with a bunch of vampires) and whatever. :shrug:

Quote from: Slurpee on August 16, 2020, 03:47:00 PM
I don't think I watched any of the new seasons but naming anything My Struggle seems kind of
uh


(I haven't read word one from this dude, but his books are everywhere...)

RobClock

The mytharc narrative from season 1 up until Fight the Future is a solid, enjoyable, somewhat coherent plot that dove off a fucking cliff because Carter never envisioned a true progression for it and didn't know how to keep the ball rolling other than to lazily obfuscate the throughline and introduce new, increasingly irrelevant conspiracies on top of it all. The reason S10 and 11 are so incredibly frustrating to a fan such as myself is that they knew it wasn't going to continue as a series proper and rather than deliver closure, they just took a big old dump on everything previously established for ham fisted commentary on the modern day socio political landscape. The Info-Wars substitute in particular was just painful.

PhantomCatClock

mein kopf hurts just from reading this page

GreyClock

Well, here's your medicine, buddy!


Chris Carter, I feel for the guy. A purely stand-alone approach to the conspiracy stuff would mean the difficult task of having to establish (and coming up with) new parameters every episode, whereas resorting to an overarching narrative lends a certain weight and convenience to that process, however at some point you're going to get diminishing returns on that. It makes it feel like the protagonists are treading water or are even taking two steps back for every step forward. Concurrently, you can't go "Well, we're about five seasons in now, here's a clear cut answer to all that convoluted shit we've referenced so far, tune in next week when we start a whole nother thing." That's too scary for an open-ended (financially lucrative) show [I don't know the right term, the opposite of a limited series]. It's the Lost syndrome. Twin Peaks kinda did just that by revealing Laura Palmer's killer... AND NOW WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? Here's James doing whatever the fuck...

Same goes for your characters, you can't break them from the existing paradigms, even when it makes them look like complete morons. I love Scully. In our universe she would be right about 99.8% of the time. In the X-Files universe, the things she's seen should start adding up at some point, have her come to new realizations, a new outlook. But you can't have both Spooky Mulder AND Spooky Scully. I understand it's probably hard to even attempt something like that, with an open-ended series, because a) don't change a winning formula and b) what if you want to change  (back) again later? You run the risk of turning the whole thing into a farce. The most consistently good, long-running show I can think of is The Sopranos. Tony is probably the most fully fleshed out character in TV history, but he's a mob boss beginning to end. There isn't a half season stretch where he quits to live out his dream as a dog groomer. You know what I mean?

Having said that, I've attempted multiple watch-throughs, but never made it past season 6 or so (barring the odd gem here and there). For precisely these reasons. I think I read somewhere that when Mulder disappears Scully becomes the believer, and there's Doggett and some other lady? I haven't seen it.

I have less sympathy when it comes to the new seasons. I've only seen 10, but I doubt 11 is a ballsy (yet unavoidably flawed) attempt to wrap up the series in a satisfying way either.






Uhhh... okay.

RobClock

Season 11 begins by establishing that the season 10 finale was just a dream Scully had





fuck chris carter

GreyClock

I can't remember most of season 10 anyway, except for maybe a bit of the stuff with Jeff Winger and the Darin Morgan episode.

GreyClock

Maybe there was a funny masturbation joke in the first episode, when we meet reclusive Mulder?

In the vein of Mulder jerks off to bigfoot footage / death by auto-erotic asphyxiation.

Or was that in the Darin Morgan episode too.

RobClock


Slurpee

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Slurpee

Quote from: GreyClock on August 16, 2020, 07:23:52 PMI love Scully. In our universe she would be right about 99.8% of the time.

Slurpee

scully at the end of the episode: I'm not sure what I saw

PhantomCatClock

Clock Day took up nine of the top ten daily spots, and illwillpress had two movies today that didn't even place (pop-tart). Shit, even #1 was a TF2 cartoon so that's just fucking cool



what a day :cool:

Slurpee

Quote from: PhantomCatClock on August 16, 2020, 08:57:07 PMillwillpress
I can't believe that dude is still making his stupid shit lmao

RobClock

Quote from: Slurpee on August 16, 2020, 08:50:33 PM
Quote from: GreyClock on August 16, 2020, 07:23:52 PMI love Scully. In our universe she would be right about 99.8% of the time.


I WANT TO BELIEVE

RobClock

Quote from: Slurpee on August 16, 2020, 08:59:14 PM
Quote from: PhantomCatClock on August 16, 2020, 08:57:07 PMillwillpress
I can't believe that dude is still making his stupid shit lmao

at this point he is literally just reuploading 10+ year old foamy cartoons he put through Swivel instead of replacing original uploads' swf with mp4, fuck that dude

PhantomCatClock

There's no way he could be getting more medals, doing that. He'd probably losing th—riiiiiiiight, that's his actual job. I guess re-listing them is stirring interest. Against the NG ToS tho



then again maybe he is just fucking stupid. He should only do one per day if that's the case. Huh.

RobClock

He probably unpublished the original uploads to keep it kosher with those guys but verifying that is more attention than I'm willing to give the hack

pop-tart

Bill Murray turns 69 next month.

Any interest in reviving Bill Murray week?

Slurpee

I'm starting to find iwp existentially terrifying


it's the same thing
he's still doing the exact same thing

it's a probably-not-too-bright older adult man doing dumb carlos mencia rants into a consumer grade microphone, pitching his voice up, and playing it over a single years-old drawing, a grey blob that you would have to be told is meant to be a squirrel, tweening around in front of a traced bitmap
the same dumb horny middle school dimestore jhonen vasquez ripoff that was like the lower D-tier of this brief cultural window where marketable "spooky cute doom" bullshit was in with the kids
he never had a second idea
or a first skill

it's like gazing into the abyss
I feel like I need a beer