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Farted by Sinister Clock, September 19, 2015, 08:52:06 PM

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Sinister Clock

Pirate and learn ToonBoom or TVPaint. Flash is going nowhere but down, and it's a really shitty animation program anyway. Learn something actually designed for flash makers and not the worst advertisers in the world.

Yomuchan

Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)

Topcatyo

I been trying to learn After Effects.

But I don't really want to.

Slurpee

i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine

VirusClock

.

Slurpee

Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that

Sinister Clock

Quote from: Topcatyo on September 19, 2015, 11:36:03 PM
I been trying to learn After Effects.

But I don't really want to.

Yeah it's shit but useful unfortunately. Not a great UI, Adobe is really bad with animation UIs for some reason.

Sinister Clock

#7
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

miracle fruit


AnkhClock

lol have you seen my animations getting professional software isn't gonna help them



TropicanaClock

#10
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.


PhantomCatClock

look, the messiah is still going on about toonboom

Slurpee

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
[u2]QfAvtLzMx8o[/u2]
GREATNESSS WILL BE MIIIIIIINE

RobClock

Every single argument I've heard for flash 'dying' has been a blanket statement like 'Flash is dead', or a condemnation of flash player and its vulnerabilities, or how flash advertisements are bad. Never anything saying why the program itself is no longer acceptable to create with. I don't give three drops of piss whether or not mobile phones or tablets support flash applications, nor do I care about swf adverts. I haven't seen an ad online in nearly 5 years.

Flash 8 does everything I need it to and thanks to Newgrounds releasing Swivel, I'm in no hurry to find a substitute.

Topcatyo

Let's be clear that Flash is still super dope to animate in.

Sinister Clock

Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.

Topcatyo

Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.

VCRClock

Quote from: Topcatyo on September 21, 2015, 12:00:00 PM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 21, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: OJ on September 21, 2015, 12:55:16 AM
Quote from: Sinister Clock on September 20, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: Yomuchan on September 19, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
Flash is not dead. Its just that the brain-dead brats of today have less than 2% of the mental capacity of creative people back in the early 2000s - they can't learn so well, so they need hand-holding and coddling and trainer wheels. :)
That's dumb, each generation is getting more education than ever before, and being able to use a bad program isn't the sign of bad brats, it's the sign of a bad program. I've started seeing a lot of cool 3D stuff coming out recently, like this which uses cheap rendering well and incorporates it into it's art style, while still having some great animation that holds it up above other stuff online.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 20, 2015, 02:20:19 AM
Quote from: VirusClock on September 20, 2015, 01:58:51 AM
HTML5 ANIMATIONS YO
how are these made?

i heard flash can export them but nothing beyond that
I think maybe ToonBoom should be able to export them? Since it's all vector based, but I think TB has some crazy amount of unnecessary data per frame or something.

Otherwise, you can actually do a bunch of animations in pure CSS, it's crazy.

Quote from: Slurpee on September 19, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
i'm learning blender

i suck at it atm but greatness will be mine
That's what every great artist has once said, so good luck!

That dog animation just made me lose my mind; my ribs are hurting.

Weight in on the flash debate? I shouldn't but.

Imagine flash as a tool in itself, theres better tools out there but it can still get the job done.
You could do all your art in mspaint if your skilled enough.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.

You could do a lot of things to make your job harder, I don't know why that would be preferable to using tools and software designed to make your job more efficient and better.
sorry bro i don't think i can turn nesting quotes off without writing my own mod
<Marlin Clock> This thread seems proof positive that divisiveness at any level is usually bad for the Clock Crew.
<PhantomCatClock> are we talking about the same clock crew

Slurpee

I always liked nesting quotes

we had them on .cc circa 2003 and peer pressured each other into deleting old strings to keep them from getting too compressed. it's a good social litmus

web 2.0 design principles assume users will ruin anything they can, so nesting quotes aren't really seen anymore. this increases content flow but decontextualizes responses.

well-regulated bulletin board systems with small dedicated user bases benefit from context. same way we don't need infinite scrolling, or social networking integration. imo.

Topcatyo

Oh I wasn't complaining about their existence, I was just having fun, and the conversation I quoted was starting to get a liiiiittle large.

Nesting quotes are great but the people quoting need to know when to cut off the previous quotes at some point for the sake of other people. I just wish forums had an easier way for you to do that rather than having to go in and cut out parts of code