health database censors abortion

[Topcatyo]

I hate when people blindly disagree with abortion when they don't look at the benefits of it. Ever wonder why crime drastically dropped about 16 years after Roe vs Wade? ZOMG AMAZING!!!!!!!

Crime would drop if cocaine was made legal too, but I digress, I really don't agree with abortion because, at the risk of hearing "It's the woman's body", I think it's baby killing.
But this isn't about abortion discussion, it's about morons blocking it on their site so people don't learn about it.

[FluxCapacitorClock]

I hate when people blindly disagree with abortion when they don't look at the benefits of it. Ever wonder why crime drastically dropped about 16 years after Roe vs Wade? ZOMG AMAZING!!!!!!!

People stopped getting arrested for back door abortions, and there were less people growing up in shitty conditions and learning shitty ways to live.

Also, I'd much rather have a mother abort her child and have another abortion statistic instead of another "look at this child starving in a back alley" statistic, or even worse, a "1 year old baby found in dumpster" statistic.

However, I'm also on the side that forced stillbirths are horrible. In my book, abortions should definately be done before the child's heartbeat starts, at least.

[Topcatyo]

However, I'm also on the side that forced stillbirths are horrible. In my book, abortions should definately be done before the child's heartbeat starts, at least.

I agree with this if abortion is to be done at all.
Abortion, in my opinion, would only be an option if the pregnancy is a result of rape or the like or if the mother is in danger of dying.
I'm always paranoid I don't know what I'm talking about even if I think I do when I get involved in debates.

[FluxCapacitorClock]

I agree with this if abortion is to be done at all.
Abortion, in my opinion, would only be an option if the pregnancy is a result of rape or the like or if the mother is in danger of dying.
I'm always paranoid I don't know what I'm talking about even if I think I do when I get involved in debates.

Where do you stand on a mother who got pregnant by one of her clients not using a condom giving birth in a shitty hotel room and trying to raise it in her crack-addicted prostitute environment instead of aborting it?

[RabidClock]

Where do you stand on a mother who got pregnant by one of her clients not using a condom giving birth in a shitty hotel room and trying to raise it in her crack-addicted prostitute environment instead of aborting it?

Stop talking about my mother Flux >:[

[Topcatyo]

Where do you stand on a mother who got pregnant by one of her clients not using a condom giving birth in a shitty hotel room and trying to raise it in her crack-addicted prostitute environment instead of aborting it?

Lord knows the baby's going to grow up fucked, if giving it up for adoption is not an option, I would have to say aborting the baby might be for the better.  It's all a very sketchy issue, and I really am not the most knowledgeable on this stuff.

[FluxCapacitorClock]

Stop talking about my mother Flux >:[

Sorry man her life is just such a good example in these discussions

[RabidClock]

And I'm a good example of a hermaphrodite, but you don't see me bragging.

[Topcatyo]

I'd also like to note that my religious beliefs have nothing to do with my opinion on abortion (actually, religion has no bearings on pretty much all my decisions).

[BoomStick Clock]

Except lent.

[RomanClock]

I don't like abortion either.
But since there are people that like baby killing, I would be willing to compromise that you can have 2 or 3 abortions, but after that you should have to be sterilized because obviously you don't want kids. (Excluding maybe rape)
Apparently, some people think this is a dumb idea too, but have yet to explain why.

[Topcatyo]

Except lent.

Actually I never participated in Lent before, and I did it this year because I felt like trying giving up something.

[FluxCapacitorClock]

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Okay guys please explain to me how a mass of cells with no heartbeat and no brain is a baby.

The way I understood it, this =/= this.

[RomanClock]

Okay guys please explain to me how a mass of cells with no heartbeat and no brain is a baby.

Aren't we all just lumps of cells?

[FluxCapacitorClock]

Aren't we all just lumps of cells?

Yes, but our cells are organized into complex systems that keep us alive and functioning. A baby is made up of cells formed into complex systems that keep it alive and functioning. If your heart is beating, you are alive. If your brain is functioning, you are alive. If you don't even have a heart or brain, and you don't have any complex systems within you, how are you alive?

Pro-lifers seem to think that if you have no brain and your heart has stopped, you still have a right to live. No, sorry, your right to live has expired. Please check in at the pearly gates to renew it.

[BehemothClock]

Hey guys look! A baby!


But this isn't the debate forum so I'm done

[RomanClock]

Yes

Your fingers doesn't have a brain or heart and it can't stay alive by itself, so should we cut off your fingers?

PS: You ALWAYS have the right to live, but its not always respected.

[FluxCapacitorClock]

Your fingers doesn't have a brain or heart and it can't stay alive by itself, so should we cut off your fingers?

Go right ahead, because I can live without them.

PS: You ALWAYS have the right to live, but its not always respected.

So should we not bury our dead? After all, they have a right to life, and if we bury them, they might have a hell of a time getting out of the coffin next time they decide to exercise that right. And cremation? Jesus, that's just infringing on people's rights in an unimaginable way!

[BoomStick Clock]

Actually I never participated in Lent before, and I did it this year because I felt like trying giving up something.

Right, because of your religion, your religion affects your decisions sometimes.

[Topcatyo]

Right, because of your religion, your religion affects your decisions sometimes.

Not really.  I didn't say "I'll give up soda and wanking for Jesus and God and whatno", I said "I'll give up soda and wanking because I don't know if I'll be able to last 40 days and it'd be nice if I was able to."
Though, you still have a point.  Religion affects some of my decisions, but I was more thinking along the lines of religion doesn't affect my opinions on shit like gay rights and abortion and that kind of stuff.