So I want to do Sound Engineering

[CaulkClock]

After an Open Day at Bolton Uni, i've come to a bit of a dilemma (emma emma hey hey). I'd had my mind set on a Web Design course for a while now, but when I went to the presentation for it, I was bored to tears. Then I stayed in the room for a bit and the guy from the School of Sound Recording came. He showed what they do in the Sound Engineering & Design course, Adding effects to movies, to mixing songs, and all that shit. I was really entrigued by it all, it was generally awesome.

Does anyone here have any expierience in Sound Engineering? Not that i'll base the next five years of my life on your opinion, but it'll help

[MonsterMunch]

Sound Engineering is a module on the course I am currently on at Salford University and it fucking sucks ass!

Don't do it!

A shit load of my friends go to Bolton University and they hate it so much they could bleed.

[Isison]

This is what I think:

No matter what others say about how enlightening and "interesting" other subjects are, if you want to make money and live a well off life, go with business, medical school, law, engineering or applied science. Do something that is not difficult nor unique that everyone else can do also makes you not competitive in this society.

Not to burst your bubbles, but sound engineering isn't regarded as engineering . I suggest you use your 4 year of college wisely, and challenge yourself with something that is difficult and unique. Do something like computer engineering or mechanical engineering. So, at the day you walk out of your college with your diploma and from then on, you can stand in front of others and say with pride :"I've actually learned something useful and few others can understand."  I'm not saying art and music majors are useless; I'm just telling you the fact that making a well off life with those skills are more difficult.

So, if I'm you, I will bid my fellow sound engineering classmates farewell and say :"Fuck off, you gays. I'm going to do some truly leet stuff like quantum mechanics and aerodynamics, while you guys review your elementary school level shit and rub each other's cocks."

[DNAClock]

Don't listen to Isison... Do whatever you like, keep in mind that you'll probably do it the rest of your life so do something that fulfills not only your economical needs but something that can be a challenge for you in life, something you know you can do happily. If you go to law school and you hate law you are gonna wake up every day hating what you do for a living, fuck that, go to whatever makes you happy.
 
I'd talk to ZombieLincoln about this kind of issues, his conversations in these kind of topics are enlightening.

[teh Hamburgler]

Sound engineerning is bad but alot of times college professors make you make sound for really trippy movies and it gets kind of boring after a while because they talk about THE meaning behind it.

[Isison]

Don't listen to Isison... Do whatever you like, keep in mind that you'll probably do it the rest of your life so do something that fulfills not only your economical needs but something that can be a challenge for you in life, something you know you can do happily. If you go to law school and you hate law you are gonna wake up every day hating what you do for a living, fuck that, go to whatever makes you happy.
 
I'd talk to ZombieLincoln about this kind of issues, his conversations in these kind of topics are enlightening.

I LOVE rubbing my cock, but does that mean I can do it for the rest of my life in order to feed my starving self and my family?

Some people don't realize there's a clear cut line between hobby and career. Encouraging people to "do whatever you like" is abusing and mis-using the concept of "freedom". Hobby is something you entertain yourself; as long as yourself is happy about it, it's a good hobby. Career is something far more grand in concept than a hobby; when you are dealing with a life long career, you shall not only regard what you like the best, but also need to think maturely about financial difficulties, family, earning, social position, security, and many others. Going to college is about building up a career; it's not a fucking free time rainbow club extending your hobbies. I saw many people woke up the day after their graduation: they see those indians and chinese nerds with high salary job offers going off to a nice summer vacation with their jobs and career ensured, while they themselves with an art or history diploma that no company want to hire you. Only then, you will look at the sky hopelessly and say :" I should've at least consider what that cockmaster Isison the Epic had said."

[DNAClock]

I LOVE rubbing my cock, but does that mean I can do it for the rest of my life in order to feed my starving self and my family?
 
Some people don't realize there's a clear cut line between hobby and career. Encouraging people to "do whatever you like" is abusing and mis-using the concept of "freedom". Hobby is something you entertain yourself; as long as yourself is happy about it, it's a good hobby. Career is something far more grand in concept than a hobby; when you are dealing with a life long career, you shall not only regard what you like the best, but also need to think maturely about financial difficulties, family, earning, social position, security, and many others. Going to college is about building up a career; it's not a fucking free time rainbow club extending your hobbies. I saw many people woke up the day after their graduation: they see those indians and chinese nerds with high salary job offers going off to a nice summer vacation with their jobs and career ensured, while they themselves with an art or history diploma that no company want to hire you. Only then, you will look at the sky hopelessly and say :" I should've at least consider what that cockmaster Isison the Epic had said."

Isison... I believe that if you want to rub your cock and you love it and you'd want to make a living out of that you'd be able to do it. Do you think you are the BEST cock rubber on earth? Do you think that if anyone needs a cock rubber at some point you'd be able to fill in the position? You'd have to be the best at it, ya know? The average cock rubber doesn't get a lot of job BUT if you kick ass at it (and you will because you love rubbing cock) I bet you will leave all the other cock rubbers in the world unemployed!
 
Isison, the cock rubber, I BELIEVE IN YOU!

[teh Hamburgler]

Hell, you could rub my cock!

[Isison]

*rub rub rub*

[DNAClock]

YES! ISISON! RUB IT LIKE THE GODS CAN ONLY RUB IT!

[RomanClock]

A presentation shouldn't be you're decision maker. You need to be a  smart consumer, in this case you're buying knowledge, and you need to make sure you get the right set for you. Here's some criteria I would use:
1. You like it. If you like doing something, getting paid for it would be even better.
2. Financial opportunity. If it a skill gets you jobs that don't pay anything or it doesn't have promotion potential, don't bother because if you don't have a decent living then it because harder to enjoy life. However, this can vary depending on circumstances and preferences and may not even be applicable.
3. Flexibility. Many subjects may force you into specific career paths, and if you end up at a dead end, all your time and money will be wasted because you'll have nowhere to go if you can't convince employers that your skill is useful. Make sure to think about the future: will this job be around in the next decade, will it still be needed?

My Analysist:
If you really REALLY like sound engineering, go for it. There is a pretty open market for now (movies, games, TV). However, if its too specific, you might have too much competition and find it hard to get a job. A more general engineering degree or more rare degree may be a better option. With applied science jobs, you'll be able to enter many more fields than if you're a sound engineer, but if you go for a rare degree make sure there will be room for you in the market. If you like web design, try to go for a computer science degree, the field is very promising, and probably going to continue to expand in the future.

[FileCabinetClock]

No matter what others say about how enlightening and "interesting" other subjects are, if you want to make money and live a well off life, go with business, medical school, law, engineering or applied science.

what if i don't want to make money and live a well off life. i want to do something i like for the rest of my life for cash not some gay fucking business

[SageClock]

You can make some pretty decent money being at the top of most professions, so if it's something you're particularly passionate about have some existing talent in, and are relatively certain you can succeed in it, you might want to consider it. But judging by what you say, you're basing this all on a persuasive and charismatic character, and so if I were you I'd second guess my opinion. At the very least, you should try doing it as a hobby for a little while and see if you have some talent for it and really enjoy it.

But Isison is right as far as if you go into engineering or medical fields (especially biomedical engineering), you're more likely to come out of it with a high paying job, because much less people pursue it (why? because a lot of people just don't have the talent or the perserverence for it), so those that DO make it through get some good cash, since the demand is a lot higher than the supply. That being said, you might not be able to get through it yourself (I'm relatively certain I couldn't, even though I have a career in a related field), so what he suggests might not be viable for you anyway.

Happiness is important, but it's even better if you can find something that you enjoy and at the same time makes you some decent money as well.

Also, a general degree in math or physics can get into just about any engineering field later on, at least from my limited experience. In fact, sometimes it can give you an edge over applicants, since you have coming in with a fresh perspective than most other applicants who are specialized and can still use your expertise that a cookie cutter engineering or computer science graduate they already have 50 of can't offer.

[SageClock]

what if i don't want to make money and live a well off life. i want to do something i like for the rest of my life for cash not some gay fucking business

To be fair, even a minor in business can help you in all sorts of ways, from managing your checkbook, to understanding some of the better ways to get loans, to understanding the tricks that businesses use to trick you into buying their snake oil or distract you from your everyday life, to investing for retirement, to negotiating for a raise, knowing when to start looking for a new job, knowing your market worth, knowing how to legally reduce your tax burden, etc, etc. So much of the world revolves around businesses and how they work that it would help you out quite a bit, directly and indirectly, to have some understanding on how business works.

Especially since unless you work for a non-profit organization or win the lottery you're almost guaranteed to be working for a business for almost half your waking life, anyway.

I had the same attitude as you did back in college, but in retrospect, I really wish my minor was in business, and most people could probably benefit more than be hurt by at least taking a couple classes in it.

[CaulkClock]

Alright, what i've gathered is that I need have been interested in the field for eons to enroll in the Sound Engineering course. To be truthful it's something completely new to me, I guess I wanted to do something different than being stuck in the whole "program stuf 4eva" kind of area, which is what the Web Design course felt like. Although I did say I wouldn't base my decision on your opinions (I am not a scientist fuck off) you've kind of opened my eyes a little

Now although it is something I didn't even think they had a degree for (it never came to mind when I actually put down what I wanted to do), it's something I can see myself doing. I've always wanted to get into the Media side of the world one way or another, I feel like this could be my chance.

There's a open day next saturday there, i'll try and get my dad to take me, he's the musical one in the family and actually knows shit about mixers. Who knows, I could actually bond with the non-child support paying git again...

[satan will destroy you]

this thread is fucking horrid

[CaulkClock]

this thread is fucking horrid

love you too hun. I would of put it in the Serious Business forum, but who the fuck goes there? General Discussion 4life