Man Cured of AIDS. No seriously

[BlackberryClock]

The man got cured from HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. That's a big step towards curing AIDS as well, even if it doesn't cure people that actually have AIDS.
If they come up with a cure/vaccine in n years, only the people with AIDS will die at that point, but they will be the last.

well in a perfect world at least.

lol. should I explain this one ?

[Slurpee]

if he's wrong yes

because that sounds right to me

[BlackberryClock]

Okay, sorry. I'm looking at my posts, and I'm probably coming off as a bitchy know-it-all.

AIDS isn't a typical disease like cholera or bubonic plague or something like that. Like I said before, it's really just the aggregated symptoms of having a deficient immune system. Basically your body gets beat to hell by the little guys that would normally be no problem.

So if you somehow vanquished HIV from your body, someone should theoretically be able to bounce back as their immune system rebounds. I guess it wouldn't cure some of the really nasty stuff (like if you contracted cancer during the time with AIDS because of increased change of genetic mutation), but if the cure came early enough, the person should get well.

You can see this now when someone with AIDS takes anti-HIV drugs long enough to put the virus into remission. When they go off the drug and the side-effects wear off, they should feel healthy in the time before the virus regroups.

You can't just cure AIDS.

[Bigglesnoots]

enlighten me, BlackberryClock

[Bigglesnoots]

Though systematically curing/vaccinating people would decrease the chances of contracting HIV again significantly.
I'm not even sure if HIV mutates (enough) to overcome vaccinations like the flu does.

edit: that was a sneaky edit Blackberry!

You can't just cure AIDS.

I didn't say you could cure AIDS, I said you could do away with the virus causing it, through curing or otherwise.

[BlackberryClock]

The man got cured from HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. That's a big step towards curing AIDS as well, even if it doesn't cure people that actually have AIDS.
If they come up with a cure/vaccine in n years, only the people with AIDS will die at that point, but they will be the last.

Though systematically curing/vaccinating people would decrease the chances of contracting HIV again significantly.
I'm not even sure if HIV mutates (enough) to overcome vaccinations like the flu does.

edit: that was a sneaky edit Blackberry!

I didn't say you could cure AIDS, I said you could do away with the virus causing it, through curing or otherwise.

You had a sneaky delete yourself, bud.

It's clear from your previous post that clarification was needed.

As far as HIV being a quick mutator? Yes.. hell yes. The AIDS virus is often cited as one of the most readily available examples of evolution in action. It's ability change and avoid drugs is one of reasons it's such a big problem.

[Bigglesnoots]

You had a sneaky delete yourself, bud.

I'm sorry but I didn't delete that
(though I did say I didn't say that but sfqssd )

As far as HIV being a quick mutator? Yes.. hell yes. The AIDS virus is often cited as one of the most readily available examples of evolution in action. It's ability change and avoid drugs is one of reasons it's such a big problem.

I'm not sure if I'm getting this right, but isn't HIV the virus and AIDS the decease?

[Maltese]

Never been one for details I assume?

buuuurn

not going to go into detail in a thread in the general forum.

I'll just be colloquial

[BlackberryClock]

I'm not sure if I'm getting this right, but isn't HIV the virus and AIDS the desease?

yah

[Bigglesnoots]

yah

oh and when they say "the AIDS virus", they mean the virus causing AIDS, i.e. HIV?

because otherwise I wouldn't get your post.

[WreckingBallClock]

Get me the Lazy Doctor! He should be able to make sense of this.

[BlackberryClock]

oh and when they say "the AIDS virus", they mean the virus causing AIDS, i.e. HIV?

because otherwise I wouldn't get your post.

Yeah, they're synonymous. Sorry if that was confusing.

Get me the Lazy Doctor! He should be able to make sense of this.

What doesn't make sense?

[Bigglesnoots]

but technically curing all the people infected with HIV and putting them in quarantaine so they can't relapse would eventually get rid of AIDS, right?

[WreckingBallClock]

What doesn't make sense?

Oh wow. Read the rest of the thread. Seems everything is solved now. Nevermind! I was reading up to page 3 (didn't realize there was a 4th page...) , and saw a bunch of arguing, so I Quick Posted.

[WreckingBallClock]

but technically curing all the people infected with HIV and putting them in quarantaine so they can't relapse would eventually get rid of AIDS, right?

If someone is born with AIDS, and we didn't notice it, the system would happen again. We'd need to keep some sort of AIDS police to protect everyone from the AIDS monster. It'd be like the '90s again, until Captain Planet comes to tell us all about how AIDS isn't as bad as everyone thinks, and we're back where we started.

[RomanClock]

but technically curing all the people infected with HIV and putting them in quarantaine so they can't relapse would eventually get rid of AIDS, right?

Theoretically if you isolated everyone and all animals with AIDS you would get rid of it.

[PirateClock]

Theoretically if you isolated everyone and all animals with AIDS you would get rid of it.

But then many weeks later researches would go into the quarantined area and they'd find one sole survivor and bring her to the lab for analysis and she would then infected everybody else and before you know it infected people are running circles around the Eiffel tower.

[Bigglesnoots]

If someone is born with AIDS, and we didn't notice it, the system would happen again.

you can only be born with AIDS if your parent(s) have AIDS. Putting them in quarantine would solve that since they'd be born in quarantine.

Theoretically if you isolated everyone and all animals with AIDS you would get rid of it.

[Slash]

But then many weeks later researches would go into the quarantined area and they'd find one sole survivor and bring her to the lab for analysis and she would then infected everybody else and before you know it infected people are running circles around the Eiffel tower.

It's theoretically, things like that only happen in reality

[Silly Putty Clock]

But then many weeks later researches would go into the quarantined area and they'd find one sole survivor and bring her to the lab for analysis and she would then infected everybody else and before you know it infected people are running circles around the Eiffel tower.

That isn't neccessarily true. HIV can only be spread through exchange of bodily fluids. I'll let you interpret that however you want.

I don't really like the idea of quarantine to begin with. I think a better idea in theory would be to have HIV+ people were special medical bracelets or something, but that would probably make the already-existing social stigma attached to HIV/AIDS worse, and might end up being kind of like those armbands that the Nazis made everyone wear. The best idea is simply to continue medical research and try to develop a cheap, readily-available cure or vaccine for the virus. That way, either the virus will no longer be a major concern because nobody could be infected, or if somebody contracts HIV, they can just take the proper medication and get well, making less of a big deal. Of course, both are a while away from being developed. The coolest thing that could happen would be if there was some huge HIV outbreak and almost everybody died and the remaining survivors had to repopulate the earth with their HIV-resistant DNA. That would be awesome.