is he dead yet

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jews are a conspiracy

[k9]

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jews are a conspiracy

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how long is that sig gonnae last lol

[RobClock]

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jews are a conspiracy

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how long is that sig gonnae last lol

I'll give you a hint

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this is a happy place to chill out with friends

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vcrclock on happy places to chill out with freidns

as somebody whose in-person social life has historically been shit I think about stuff like meeting people and gathering and stuff, and then also internet social media stuff, to an extent that probably none of my friends care about

one of my philosophical beefs with facebook, though it's like the least important beef now, was that its structure was this binary "are we friends or not" thing

like they had to come up with workarounds so that you could stay "friends" with someone but not have to read their terrible posts, because if you "unfriend them" THEY COULD FIND OUT and that would be a bad look

whereas realistically, i could have gone to college with someone, and the last time I see them in college, I'd figure "oh, we're friends, I'll probably talk to them again sometime," but in actuality, we mutually never have a reason to talk to each other again -- the period of relevance for the relationship is over

on social media we're still "friends" until I take a deliberate action to say we're not, or I start over on a new platform

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i was just at a gathering of more people than could comfortably be engaged in a single conversation. for part of it I found myself in a circle of people talking about stuff. then someone in that circle and I got to talking about stuff that wasn't relevant to the other people in the circle, so we broke off for a minute before returning to the circle. at other times, when the circle was talking about stuff I couldn't relate to, I was standing around with a drink in my hand wondering if the other circle was talking about something more interesting.

for a large enough group of people, if a jerk enters the conversation you're having and you're beginning to not have fun, you can usually see yourself out and get to chatting with another group. in person, a jerk can be only one place at a time, so as long as you're not in the group the jerk is in, you can be assured of not having the jerk chime in on whatever you're talking about with everyone else. online, groups tend to be persistent and aren't usually ad-hoc things created "on the fly," and a jerk who's active in one could still be paying attention to the other.

in a small group, online or offline, if a jerk shows up and you can't get rid of them somehow, you're stuck either grinding your teeth or leaving
online, the move is usually, "fuck, fine, let's just make a new group that doesn't include the people we don't like"
this works for things like group chats, but on ye archaic web forums, usually people have ended up making a new board somehow and being particular about who is and isn't welcome
obviously the web forum structure isn't suited to the end user deciding who they want to hang out with, trapping them in the room with a jerk unless a sympathetic authority figure boots somebody
discord and irc too -- if you want to keep someone out, the power structure means someone with power's gotta use it
on an sms group chat, since nobody's got the ban hammer, if things need to change, anyone can say "I'm starting a new chapter, anyone who agrees with me can join." anarchy brah

[RobClock]

We just need slurpee to politely explain why people should leave forever

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So I'm watching Once Upon a Time in Hollywood again and that part where they go off to shoot movies in Italy (and Spain) reminded me of some passage from something, but I can't remember from what exactly.

I think it was from some novel. I don't think it was part of the main narrative, but some anecdote within the story proper. People go out to a desert to shoot a movie, maybe it was in Spain or Argentina? Might have even been a snuff film? Ring any bells?

[GreyClock]

It's weird how typing out stuff and posting it helps you remember.

It's from a passage in 2666. Which is based on/references the Argentinian-American film Snuff. Which in turn was based on the Manson Family. No wonder it reminded me of it.

Carry on.

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When Rick Dalton comes home from his Italian stay he puts these commemorative cups on his mantle. I think they read Hopalong Cassidy. They were already there in a shot in the beginning of the movie. He could be repositioning them, but it's sort of implied he brought them home from the trip. Call IMDB.

[k9]

i wanna read a good book reccomend me one

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Oh, he moves a blue one and puts down a red one, the latter wasn't in the first shot. Guess he completed his set.

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i wanna read a good book reccomend me one

[k9]

i wanna read a good book reccomend me one

my internet is horrible so it took 30 seconds for that image to slowly load and i thought it was real until it loaded I FUCKING HATE PARKS JESUS CHRIST THAT GOT ME

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[Clocktopus]

I hear "AND" is a good book.

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i wanna read a good book reccomend me one

2666 by Roberto Bolaño is pretty good. You can tell the author died before it was finished and it's a little rough around the edges.

Three sublime books are:
Journey to the End of the Night and Death on Credit, both by Louis-Ferdinand Céline. The latter is a sort of prequel to the first, but I would start with Journey.
The Man Without Qualities by Robert Musil.

These are huge fucking novels (especially the latter, my copy has 1300+ pages), but rare in the sense that they made me feel like I was in some sort of lurid fever dream throughout. The first two are more episodic and conventional (at least in terms of narrative structure). The latter, while still mostly linear, is insane. It's 1300+ pages of a guy helping to plan an anniversary event for the emperor in Vienna in 1913. He's on a fucking committee. That's it. Although not really. It's just chockful interesting digressions and discussions on philosophy, society, politics, human nature and I can't even begin to explain it. It's something that has to be experienced and one of the most stupefying achievements in literary history, in my modest opinion.

Come to think of it, in terms of scope and themes, I wouldn't be surprised if 2666 (and Bolaño) weren't heavily inspired by precisely these three books. But I'm just spitballing here.


What do you usually read though? Because these books are dense as hell and maybe not the best place to start. Just got a little carried away.

Have you read Vonnegut? Read some Vonnegut. That's always a good bet.

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Ideas to improve Once Upon a Time in Hollywood:

On two occassions it would've been really funny if a character had said "Bye!" in a funny voice... Funny meaning kinda high pitched and pronounced "Bai-eeee" (what's that from?)

Brad Pitt saying it to Squeaky while exiting the Spahn house.
Leo saying it to the gang in the car after yelling at them in front of his house.

I'm a little drunk, fuck you.


Sadie, the girl who gets torched with the flamethrower while staying above the water in the pool, apparently blew her infant son regularly, at least according to a throwaway line in the Bugliosi book. Just FYI.

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Yeah K9, I'd say you'd have to give us a genre you want to read unless you want us to just throw out the all-time greats.