American Idiot wasn't that bad

[DingleberryClock]

Through the usual channels.

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Never said a bad word about Clapton

[Silly Putty Clock]

Well I don't particularly like AC/DC.

[Slurpee]

it's all about the low-blow brown girl
the no blood, no love hot girl
the jnkn jnkn jumping off the decks girl

[WobbuffetClock]

This thread is stupid stupid stupid and makes no sense whatsoever.

[Silly Putty Clock]

This thread is stupid stupid stupid and makes no sense whatsoever.

DON'T WANNA BE AN AMERICAN IDIOT

[Silly Putty Clock]

BAAAAAN HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM

hey fuck you buddy

[Loki Clock]

You're welcome to not like them. I'm not a big fan of Mozart but I'm not so stupid as to say that his music sucks and he's an asshole because of it, and someone who tries to belittle Mozart's cultural and musical impact and ability probably doesn't know shit about music.

All you are is a sheep paying tribute to sacred cows. Just because someone thinks they suck doesn't mean they deny that they had influence. You're just assuming that if someone says something bad about someone everyone loves that it's because they don't understand it and know nothing about it, which makes you the Foamy fan of music.

BB King said that Eric Clapton is the greatest and kindest person he has ever known.

Layla is about George Harrison's wife and how he was just courting her to get at her barely-legal sister.

Eric Clapton is so badass that it was Jimmy Hendrix's dream to have the honor to play with him.

Don't give a shit.

[WobbuffetClock]

All you are is a sheep paying tribute to sacred cows. Just because someone thinks they suck doesn't mean they deny that they had influence. You're just assuming that if someone says something bad about someone everyone loves that it's because they don't understand it and know nothing about it, which makes you the Foamy fan of music.

[ChimeClock]

All you are is a sheep paying tribute to sacred cows. Just because someone thinks they suck doesn't mean they deny that they had influence. You're just assuming that if someone says something bad about someone everyone loves that it's because they don't understand it and know nothing about it, which makes you the Foamy fan of music.

and I agree, which is why I usually try to avoid using "influence" in an argument

Layla is about George Harrison's wife and how he was just courting her to get at her barely-legal sister.

all I will say is: musically, who gives a shit? It's till a great song.

[Loki Clock]

all I will say is: musically, who gives a shit? It's till a great song.

No, it's not. Music is an art form, and art is at it's root about communication. It's message is one of sickening sleeze. And aesthetically, it's full of gratuitous kewl riffz that make me want to fracture Clapton's penis surrogate right where it stands amidst his self-pleasuring digits.

Oh cute, now you're making this about fandom instead of about being a judge of musical skill.

I EM RUBBAR U R GLU.

What I was saying is that YOU were making this about fandom because you are saying that just because it's well liked that no one can have a bad opinion of something without being automatically wrong.

Ah nice, now you're trying to make this a popularity issue by including Foamy the squirrel and comparing it to Eric Clapton.

I'm not comparing Eric Clapton to Foamy, I'm comparing your argument for discounting my argument to a Foamy fan's argument for discounting any bad review of Foamy.

The difference is that I am describing something that takes genuine skill and has produced a quality product, and you are belittling that skill. It would be much more like you saying "Adam Phillips is a shitty animator". You are entirely welcome to not like Adam Phillips but if you think that he sucks at animating you probably don't know shit about animation. And then when someone tells you this, you accuse them of only defending it because it's popular and not because it's clear and obvious that genuine talent and technical skill are involved.

I don't just dislike something for no reason, I dislike it because I think it's bad. If I don't think it's bad, I'll try and listen to it and understand it until I can appreciate it.

Irrelevant

It's perfectly relevant, he's an asshole, and that's proof.

Provide me one reason why his opinion on the matter is any less relevant, valid, or valuable than yours, especially considering he was a virtuoso musician.

His opinion is less relevant because he's fucking dead, and has been dead for almost four decades. It doesn't change the fact that he contributed to the art form, but just because he did something right doesn't mean he has the right to unquestionable authority over the future. I am not going to make the same thing that's been made for the last century. It needs to change, and we do that by pushing away from our influences and our influences' influences.

[ChimeClock]

It's message is one of sickening sleeze. And aesthetically, it's full of gratuitous kewl riffz that make me want to fracture Clapton's penis surrogate right where it stands amidst his self-pleasuring digits.

what? adultury is a pretty commom theme in rock'n'roll songs, regardless
 
and the riffs and interplay are cool, thank you very much
 
and I will say again: caring for great art based on the personal life of its creator is a VERY, VERY naive way of judging it

[Loki Clock]

and I will say again: caring for great art based on the personal life of its creator is a VERY, VERY naive way of judging it

It's about his personal life. That's the message of the music. It's not an "okay it's rock and roll so what if he talks about adultery" moment, it's a "wow you're a fucking sleezebag and you're proud of it" moment.